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  • thomorino
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    • 06-01-17
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    #1
    Eagles at Saints - Pick
    I think the value is with the over at 50.5.

    The Bears wasted the first half against the Eagles running and throwing short passes, but the Bears moved the ball easily on the Eagles throwing down the field in the second half. The Eagles top 3 corners are out, Darby, Jones, and Mills, and the Eagles are playing Douglass, a safety, at corner, and Maddox, a backup. The Eagles defensive line is strong but the Saints will get Armstead and Unger back, and Brees get the ball out early at home. The Saints scored 43 on the Eagles healthy secondary early in the year. Foles has looked good and the Saints still have issues in the secondary despite the strong run defense, Eagles moved the ball on a tough Bears defense. Alshon jeffery had shoulder surgery before the season started and was mediocre most of the season, he is healthy now.
  • KiDBaZkiT
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    • 10-20-09
    • 14962

    #2
    As much as u post u need an avatar buddy.....
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    • Str8Mush4Life
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      • 11-25-13
      • 1030

      #3
      Darby and Mills have been out for weeks, and Jones almost as long. Douglass and Maddox have been starting, with LeBlanc, basically starting with that Saints game when they got torched the second they were thrown in the lineup. It took several weeks for these young kids to get their footing under them, and have been playing solid D (except for gift INTs bouncing off of their facemasks that they need to come up with) for the past couple of weeks including wins over the Rams and Texans. I unfortunately flew down to NO for that drubbing, but this isn't the same team from November and it for sure isn't going to be another blowout that most of the air bettors on this board are predicting. Do I expect the Birds to win? No, but solely based on the fact that we rarely see teams repeat, or even get back to, Super Bowls in back to back years. Birds +8, I'm trying so hard to pull the trigger on ML based solely on nothing other than BDN magic, but I think you're correct on your over pick
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      • thomorino
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        • 06-01-17
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        #4
        Originally posted by Str8Mush4Life
        Darby and Mills have been out for weeks, and Jones almost as long. Douglass and Maddox have been starting, with LeBlanc, basically starting with that Saints game when they got torched the second they were thrown in the lineup. It took several weeks for these young kids to get their footing under them, and have been playing solid D (except for gift INTs bouncing off of their facemasks that they need to come up with) for the past couple of weeks including wins over the Rams and Texans. I unfortunately flew down to NO for that drubbing, but this isn't the same team from November and it for sure isn't going to be another blowout that most of the air bettors on this board are predicting. Do I expect the Birds to win? No, but solely based on the fact that we rarely see teams repeat, or even get back to, Super Bowls in back to back years. Birds +8, I'm trying so hard to pull the trigger on ML based solely on nothing other than BDN magic, but I think you're correct on your over pick
        I don't think maddox or Douglass are very good at the corner position, look at the quarterbacks the Eagles have faced since Jones, Mills, and Darby went out, no one close to Brees, Houston had no receivers when they faced Philadelphia and Tribisky moved the ball easily on the Eagles in the second half when the Bears got more aggressive.
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        • ikid2groove415
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          • 01-08-18
          • 11981

          #5
          40-9 Saints bet accordingly
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          • thomorino
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            • 06-01-17
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            #6
            Originally posted by ikid2groove415
            40-9 Saints bet accordingly
            Eagles offense is playing well, they moved the ball consistent on a Bears defense that is much better than the Saints.
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            • ikid2groove415
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              • 01-08-18
              • 11981

              #7
              Originally posted by thomorino
              Eagles offense is playing well, they moved the ball consistent on a Bears defense that is much better than the Saints.
              Will be a different story when you have 2 score vs the saints to win - Saints defense not bad - Bad match up for the eagles -
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              • thomorino
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                • 06-01-17
                • 45842

                #8
                Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                Will be a different story when you have 2 score vs the saints to win - Saints defense not bad - Bad match up for the eagles -
                Saints defense is solid agree, but Eagles offense is playing well, they have weapons too with tate,Erta, jeffery, offensive line is playing better.
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                • KingKolzig
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                  • 02-02-10
                  • 5550

                  #9
                  bought the hook have o50 -120

                  will eagles even try to run it?

                  foles will throw it 50 times this is a recipe for an easy over. both teams will score 20+ eagles maybe some trash TD's but they will get there. saints if they choose to can score 30+.........something like 34-24 could very well happen

                  only thing that worries me is its the last game of the weekend and if it stays 51 then public will pound the over. and that means shady refs like the carolina-new orleans game in which CB's were allowed to maul WR's with absolutely no flags. phantom holding calls to set the offenses back. thats what im scared of. hopefully it skyrocets to 55
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                  • Str8Mush4Life
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                    • 11-25-13
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by thomorino
                    I don't think maddox or Douglass are very good at the corner position, look at the quarterbacks the Eagles have faced since Jones, Mills, and Darby went out, no one close to Brees, Houston had no receivers when they faced Philadelphia and Tribisky moved the ball easily on the Eagles in the second half when the Bears got more aggressive.
                    They faced Jared Goff and Deshaun Watson, not eye popping but not too shabby either. Beat both.

                    As far as ikid2groove, give me the Eagles +30 and I'll bet accordingly with you. Message me.........
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                    • thomorino
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                      • 06-01-17
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Str8Mush4Life
                      They faced Jared Goff and Deshaun Watson, not eye popping but not too shabby either. Beat both.

                      As far as ikid2groove, give me the Eagles +30 and I'll bet accordingly with you. Message me.........
                      Watson had no one to throw to and the Rams offensive line was hurt, Eagles shutdown the running game. The Eagles defensive line is good, they took advantage of 2 teams that were struggling up front, Saints offensive line is healthy and much better. Brees is far better than those 2 as well.
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                      • klemopixx
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                        • 10-02-14
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                        #12
                        Saints win the game, Eagles +8 cover. Don't overthink this. Eagles will slow the game down, keep it close.
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                        • ikid2groove415
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                          • 01-08-18
                          • 11981

                          #13
                          Just saying - New Orleans will win the super bowl-
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                          • shocka1212
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                            • 10-06-12
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                            #14
                            look at that.. in a New Orleans game he "thinks" the value is in the over. what a hamburger.

                            34-17 Saints
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                            • thomorino
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                              • 06-01-17
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by shocka1212
                              look at that.. in a New Orleans game he "thinks" the value is in the over. what a hamburger.

                              34-17 Saints
                              Fuk off
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                              • thomorino
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                                • 06-01-17
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                                #16
                                Not that I care but for those who are a little slow I'm on the over
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                                • KingKolzig
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by klemopixx
                                  Saints win the game, Eagles +8 cover. Don't overthink this. Eagles will slow the game down, keep it close.
                                  just how do the eagles slow down the game?

                                  running 5'6 sproles 15-20 times? they tried that against the bears he ran for 1.6 yards per carry. smallwood is hurt. nobody else had more than 1 carry. they tried to run it and foles still threw it 40 times

                                  this game will have 80 passes. eagles best chance to stay in the game is jeffrey/ertz/tate downfield. only 2 things scare me. refs having the last game of the weekend and snuffing out a popular over play. and saints leading by 14+ and running out the 4th qtr..........but still i think this will go over most of the time
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                                  • thomorino
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                                    • 06-01-17
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KingKolzig
                                    just how do the eagles slow down the game?

                                    running 5'6 sproles 15-20 times? they tried that against the bears he ran for 1.6 yards per carry. smallwood is hurt. nobody else had more than 1 carry. they tried to run it and foles still threw it 40 times

                                    this game will have 80 passes. eagles best chance to stay in the game is jeffrey/ertz/tate downfield. only 2 things scare me. refs having the last game of the weekend and snuffing out a popular over play. and saints leading by 14+ and running out the 4th qtr..........but still i think this will go over most of the time
                                    I agree, that's why I like the over, I don't see the Eagles as being able to run at all, their running game has been garbage all year, no Ajayi the running backs are all backups. Eagles will only be able to move the ball passing against Saints, Saints weakness is the secondary, their run defense is strong.
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                                    • shocka1212
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                                      • 10-06-12
                                      • 16788

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by thomorino
                                      Not that I care but for those who are a little slow I'm on the over
                                      not slow jackass. just the squarest fukin play on the board. thanks for the brave writeup. you really went out there on a iimb this time counsel.
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                                      • thomorino
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by shocka1212
                                        not slow jackass. just the squarest fukin play on the board. thanks for the brave writeup. you really went out there on a iimb this time counsel.
                                        The squarest play on the board is Colts moneyline you dumbshit - betting an over with Nick Foles at QB is far from square.
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                                        • ikid2groove415
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                                          • 01-08-18
                                          • 11981

                                          #21
                                          All 4 wild card game 1st half dip under - 4-0 - I’m thinking there’s going be plenty points score this weekend
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                                          • shocka1212
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                                            • 10-06-12
                                            • 16788

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by thomorino
                                            The squarest play on the board is Colts moneyline you dumbshit - betting an over with Nick Foles at QB is far from square.
                                            Oh, the 5.5 point dog is square but the over of a saints home game when the opposing QB is the highest graded passer in NFL playoff history is sharp? ... go eat shit
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                                            • thomorino
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                                              • 06-01-17
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by shocka1212
                                              Oh, the 5.5 point dog is square but the over of a saints home game when the opposing QB is the highest graded passer in NFL playoff history is sharp? ... go eat shit
                                              Fuk off
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                                              • House
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                                                • 09-04-11
                                                • 7088

                                                #24
                                                Saints first half bro ... trust me
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                                                • House
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                  Oh, the 5.5 point dog is square but the over of a saints home game when the opposing QB is the highest graded passer in NFL playoff history is sharp? ... go eat shit
                                                  You're on the wrong side on that Chiefs Colts game . You're gonna bury some people thats without a doubt . GL , I'll be back after the game to say I told you so .
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                                                  • thomorino
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                                                    #26
                                                    Not that I care, how stupid is anyone to cite a quarterback's passer rating over a 4 game sample as evidence of anything.
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                                                    • House
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                                                      • 09-04-11
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by thomorino
                                                      Not that I care, how stupid is anyone to cite a quarterback's passer rating over a 4 game sample as evidence of anything.
                                                      Its a bad match up for the Eagles thomorino , those DBs are gonna be toast all game long .... tread lightly man
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                                                      • House
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                                                        • 09-04-11
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                                                        #28
                                                        Eagles , Colts , Rams and Chargers will all be playing golf after this week
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                                                        • shocka1212
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                                                          • 10-06-12
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by thomorino
                                                          Not that I care, how stupid is anyone to cite a quarterback's passer rating over a 4 game sample as evidence of anything.
                                                          4 game sample against the top tier of the league... yea, what a sham of a sample..

                                                          go ahead, keep burying yourself.
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                                                          • thomorino
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                                                            • 06-01-17
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by House
                                                            Its a bad match up for the Eagles thomorino , those DBs are gonna be toast all game long .... tread lightly man
                                                            I agree its a bad matchup for the Eagles, why I'm on the over. The Eagles offense is playing well though, Foles threw 2 interceptions in the red zone, Eagles easily could have scored 25 or more against a Bears defense that is much better than the Saints.
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                                                            • thomorino
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                              4 game sample against the top tier of the league... yea, what a sham of a sample..

                                                              go ahead, keep burying yourself.
                                                              Fuk off
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                                                              • thomorino
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                                                                #32
                                                                Not that I care, I live in Philly area, I watched every on of Foles's playoff starts.

                                                                Here's what he did,

                                                                He was bad against Atlanta in divionsal round and bad against the Bears defense where he threw 2 red zone picks.

                                                                He was good against the Vikings and the Pats garbage defense. He's had 1 good game against a top tier defense in the playoffs, and the Vikings defense was overrated as we saw this year, he's nothing special in the playoffs, he's just had some good matchups as he should have this week against a weak Saints secondary.
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                                                                • shocka1212
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                                                                  • 10-06-12
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by thomorino
                                                                  Not that I care, I live in Philly area, I watched every on of Foles's playoff starts.

                                                                  Here's what he did,

                                                                  He was bad against Atlanta in divionsal round and bad against the Bears defense where he threw 2 red zone picks.

                                                                  He was good against the Vikings and the Pats garbage defense. He's had 1 good game against a top tier defense in the playoffs, and the Vikings defense was overrated as we saw this year, he's nothing special in the playoffs, he's just had some good matchups as he should have this week against a weak Saints secondary.

                                                                  Vikings defense garbage???? heres how they stacked up vs the greatest defense ever (2000 Ravens) and the 2002 Bucs

                                                                  2017 Minnesota Vikings

                                                                  The Vikings’ defense is the complete package with an elite pass rusher, run-stuffing nose, speedy linebackers, shutdown corner, playmaking safety and guru head coach. They have shut down top quarterbacks like Matt Ryan and Jared Goff and made below average QBs look foolish. While the Vikings haven’t been as dominant against the pass as the Jacksonville Jaguars, all three of the biggest passing games against Minnesota’s defense (New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Washington) included a huge chunk of yards when the Vikings were up by two scores.
                                                                  Yards allowed per play: 4.7
                                                                  Points allowed per game: 16.1
                                                                  ANY/A against: 4.6


                                                                  2000 Baltimore Ravens

                                                                  The most hyped and referenced defense since the ’85 Bears, the Ravens’ D dragged Trent Dilfer to a Super Bowl victory. They picked up more turnovers than anyone since 2000 and pitched four shutouts in one season.
                                                                  Yards allowed per play: 4.3
                                                                  Points allowed per game: 10.3
                                                                  ANY/A against: 3.9


                                                                  2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers

                                                                  Possible the best pass defense of all time, In a victory over Carolina, the Bucs gave up 20 passing yards. They did not allow a 300 yard game, even in the postseason and only gave up four 200 yard games.
                                                                  Yards allowed per play: 4.2
                                                                  Points allowed per game: 12.3
                                                                  ANY/A against: 2.3
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                                                                  • House
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                                                                    • 09-04-11
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    I suggest you relook at who's got the better defense between the Saints and Philly http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...e/seasontype/2 and we already know who has the better offense , its not Philly bro . Im telling you be carful and don't go to hard on Philly
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                                                                    • shocka1212
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                                                                      • 10-06-12
                                                                      • 16788

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by House
                                                                      I suggest you relook at who's got the better defense between the Saints and Philly http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...e/seasontype/2 and we already know who has the better offense , its not Philly bro . Im telling you be carful and don't go to hard on Philly
                                                                      never said I was betting a side or total in this game. was just calling Moroni a square for taking the clear cut easiest play on the board and giving us a dogshit paragraph when its clear both QB's are capable of going off.
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