Yep MLB should be puttin effort into ridding itself of young, talented, and exciting players.
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07-15-12 04:07 PM #36
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07-15-12 04:11 PM #37
lol jeffie i agree
makes pro wrestling a lot better to watch
one last point, nobody has ever fully explained how that much synthetic testosterone magically left brauns body in a few days
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07-15-12 04:17 PM #38I'd never gamble again for Taylor Swift
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should Braun be shot and killed?
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07-15-12 05:56 PM #39
Only if he stops hitting dingers.
Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay
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07-15-12 06:11 PM #40
Very true these guys have to live up to huge contracts,i would. Guarentee braun isnt the only one using! ban from baseball go watch POLO or something! Originally Posted by lunchbawks
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07-15-12 06:53 PM #41
picker is just a bitter cubs fan
if braun wanted to play for the cubs this year they would sign him in a heartbeat
no player in cubs history accomplished more before age 29 than braun
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07-15-12 06:57 PM #42I'd never gamble again for Taylor Swift
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Originally Posted by ZetaPsi808
When Sosa got caught with a cork bat I disowned him.
Brewers fans just blinded by their fandom. Braun is no less a cheater than anyone else linked to roids. Suck it up and cheer for him as a cheater or don't.
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07-15-12 07:13 PM #43
its obvious braun is clean, just use common sense and look at his overall body of work
guy was a top 5 draft pick he was expected to be a star
its not like the guy hit 12 homers a year and then one year he added 20 pounds of muscle and then had his good years
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07-15-12 07:21 PM #44
If he is cheating and you know it clap your hands
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07-15-12 07:23 PM #45
Baseball turned a blind eye for years. If you allow cheating, don't act surprised when people cheat.
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07-15-12 07:26 PM #46
It isn't just the hitter though. The problem with the records is that just as many (or more) pitchers were using. So the numbers will never be fair. It was the era. It will end up being just an era, just like the dead ball era.
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07-15-12 07:31 PM #47
Originally Posted by milwaukee mike
Mcgwire hit 49 hr his rookie year.
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07-15-12 07:40 PM #48
they were cheating to offset playing other cheaters, live with it Originally Posted by frogsrangers
Growing up as a Rangers fan in the 90s it makes me sad to come to terms that my child hood heroes Juan Gonzalez, Pudge Rodriguez, and Rafael Palmerio are all cheaters.
I got a picture of me with Juan Gonzalez when I was in 3rd grade and I got him to personalize it and autograph it too... makes me a sad panda.
I went to a luncheon that had Pudge Rodriguez at it and I got his autograph and everything
When I was 4-5 years old and still young, before I had a complete grasp on what baseball was, I would tell my parents I wanted to watch the "Rafael Palmerio show", which is what I called baseball at the time.
My childhood... ruined
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07-15-12 08:08 PM #49
What amazes me is how this is news just in the last 5 years or so. I walked away from the game after the 94 strike for many years and while the whole Bonds and McGwire b.s. was going on I just shook my head in disbelief at how many idiots were buying and cheering that crap on in amazement. Like Dutch mentioned above MLB and that piece of dog sh*t Selig just turned a blind eye because it was causing buzz again and generating revenues. Those of us with half a brain could tell what was happening. I was disappointed however I also realize cheating and doing whatever it takes at times to gain an edge in athletics has been going on forever! The reason we hear about it more these days is because the evil empire (the media) is so huge and outta control these things reach our ears easier. That and old school guys stuck together more and lived by the old code of keeping your fu*king mouth shut and don't betray the brand. Free agency and the media have changed a lot in the last 20 years or so. But make no mistake about it cheating was going on well before the 90's.
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07-15-12 09:00 PM #50
Originally Posted by R.P. McMurphy
When I was a kid, players who hit 35-40 hr's were all-stars, then all of a sudden nobodies like Brady Anderson started hitting 50 home runs.
And Ken Caminiti...Dude was clearly on roids.
People weren't even trying to hide it in the 90's.
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07-15-12 10:27 PM #51
They were not hiding it at all! Most of the public ate it up so they kept serving it. When I was growing up in the 80's all the way up until the Bonds/ McGwire fiasco hitting 50 was almost unheard of. You just look at pics of the guys in the 90's compared to the guys just a decade prior and the difference is staggering. Like I said though I'm sure they were cheating in other ways things just did not get out as much back then. The media is bigger than ever, twitter, facebook, players and coaches playing musical chairs from team to team more often and this sh*t is just getting out more. We have had more scandals and allegations of cheating and corruption in sports the last 10 years or so I bet than the previous 100!
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07-15-12 10:59 PM #52
I always wondered if he would of gotten his suspension lifted if Prince wasn't leaving the same year Braun was getting suspended.
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