[GunShard]

Knowing where public money is moving is also useful:
http://contests.covers.com/Handicapp...nsus-Main.aspx


In the "Parlays and juice" video he says a $110 bet to win $100, which is the common ATS bet. Has a 4.5% house edge.

4.5% house edge is higher than Blackjack, Craps and Baccarat house edge. But lower than Roulette's 5.5% house edge.
http://vegasclick.com/gambling/houseedge.html

[BEANTOWNJIM]

YES I HIGHLY RECOMEND THESE VIDEOS IF YOU HAVE INSOMNIA I CANT TAKE WATCHING 2 MINUTES OF JUSTIN HE HAS THAT WHINING VOICE THAT GETS ON MY NERVES.HE REMINDS ME OF BEN STEIN MAN I HATE BEN STEINS VOICE CERTAIN GUYS GET ON MY NERVES AND I GUESS JUSTIN 7 IS ONE OF THEM

ASK YOURSELF DOES JUSTIN 7 LOOK LIKE HE IS A SUCCESSFULL GUY I GUESS HIS SYSTEM ISNT WORKING FOR HIM

[ApricotSinner32]

YES I HIGHLY RECOMEND THESE VIDEOS IF YOU HAVE INSOMNIA I CANT TAKE WATCHING 2 MINUTES OF JUSTIN HE HAS THAT WHINING VOICE THAT GETS ON MY NERVES.HE REMINDS ME OF BEN STEIN MAN I HATE BEN STEINS VOICE CERTAIN GUYS GET ON MY NERVES AND I GUESS JUSTIN 7 IS ONE OF THEM

ASK YOURSELF DOES JUSTIN 7 LOOK LIKE HE IS A SUCCESSFULL GUY I GUESS HIS SYSTEM ISNT WORKING FOR HIM

JIMMAY

[jjgold]

I do not think you need anything

Sick Gambler says if you stay home 21 hrs a day and get the best number or should I say beat the closing line you cannot lose

Just because Sick Gambler wears older clothes from the 70's it does not mean he does not win, he has leather shirts and pants in his closet brand new and a 1999 Cutlass Convertible

[Nicky Santoro]

A gambler cannot flash with expensive stuff. JJ, ppl know i don't work. the whole neighborhood know my face. they know i am always at malls all day long and never at a job. when i leave the house at 1 pm, my whole building look at me strangely. they all say, why is this guy never working. he's always hanging out in lobby, malls at 1 pm, etc..

now if i was to buy a 250k car, and pull into a mall coming out of that car, and wear the most expensive clothes, it will draw too much attention. you cannot do this. a gambler must always remain low key. everyone already thinks i am a big time drug dealer cause i don't work and pay over $1,000/mo rent.

Trust me, you don't want any attention on you. ppl will talk about you, if you have an expensive car, cops will follow you and know who you are and know you don't work. they will check you up on computer, which would draw heat on me. also, i don't want to get robbed.

that's why i rent and drive an old truck, and wear clothes from the 70's, although since meeting you, i have bought new modern clothes and big brand names too. i've probably spent over 4k in clothes the last 2 yrs. but that's where it ends.

I've seen so many bums who don't work drive lamborghini's, and buy 500k houses.. and next thing you know, IRS takes it all away from them cause they find out it was bought with dirty money. BE CAREFUL BOYS. i don't have that kinda money, but if i did, i'd be low key as hell, but i did at one time when i was a bookie in the 90's, and i was living the life. not anymore..

[cleaveland]

You could always tell everyone you're retired...

[govolz]

Those videos are really good. And all make sense. I took business calculus back in college and his reasoning is spot on

[LVHerbie]

In the "Parlays and juice" video he says a $110 bet to win $100, which is the common ATS bet. Has a 4.5% house edge.

4.5% house edge is higher than Blackjack, Craps and Baccarat house edge. But lower than Roulette's 5.5% house edge.
http://vegasclick.com/gambling/houseedge.html

This is kindof disingenuous since the implication is you are going to loss less but playing pit games most are going to be recycling their money over and over again at much faster pace then they could sports betting (although I suppose if the slower pace of sports leads you to increase your bet size your theoretical loss could be more significant)...

Honestly in the end if you are making -EV bets unless you are just interested in extended your time spent gambling I don't really think it really matters a whole lot what method you choose as I think most aren't going to stop until they the hit their real stop loss point anyhow...

[ApricotSinner32]

He doesn't give away much information it's all basic shit. The fact of the matter is that justin gets paid by sbr which is a company that makes their main revenue from sportsbook kickbacks so how would it be in the best interest for him to give you vital information to profit off of sportsbooks which are putting money in to his pocket. Use your fuking brain kids.

[jjgold]

Nicky great advice

I swear when I met you I wanted to ask why you always had those old jeans and t shirts

FYI men Nicky wears tight clothes
I think a Montreal thing

I bet right now he has no shirt on or that tight t shirts

Nicky looks like the guy from starsky and hutch

Pull it up ... Guy with darker hair

[NYSportsGuy210]

I just watched the first video and the main point is "if you want to be a successful gambler you must beat the closing number".

This is false.

The real lesson should be "if you want to be a successful gambler you need to win your bets".

Why does it matter if you placed a losing bet beating the closing line by 2 cents or losing 2 cents from when it opened if you lose the bet either way?

How about a video teaching on how to bet and win?

[mathdotcom]

It is always painful watching a lawyer by trade try and do math

[kingofhoarbags]

Justin 7 Youtube videos brought me here to SBR. I've watched all of his videos. Justin 7 is a genuis.

[Snowball]

Justin's approach is not going to make you any real money.
You can't be blind to sides and just lather, rinse, repeat over and over again.
You have to choose and pick your spots carefully like a sniper, not scattershot.
Every successful capper/bettor I've ever known is/was a SPOT bettor who
did not bet a large number of events.
Betting 1% of your BR over and over again to earn a 3% edge ain't going
to build you up. You need to stick your neck out and go large a few times.
A 55% win percentage is only .045 on your money with vig.
You're better off laying down on a -2250 favorite in one shot
than laboring through a year of scattershot to make a mere 4.5%.

[a4u2fear]

videos were good, thanks.

[Nicky Santoro]

here.. i'll save you 124 hrs of vids to learn how to come up on top. i'll do it in 9 seconds, and you'll know just as much and all you need to know. period. no need to learn formulas, probabilities, calculus, shmalculus, logarithms, algebra, etc.. that's all useless.

have a chart that tells you what the no vig line is for each line.. Now just beat that # consistenly on the closing line, and you'll win over the long haul........ PROMISE

Example

-105/-105.. NO vig line is Even. So take any team +101 or better.

-160/+150.. NO vig line is +/-154. So just take better than +154 on dog OR -154.


Have the chart, follow it to a tee, and you'll end up with the money at the end.. There, you just saved 100 hrs of watching vids. No need to handicap. this shit is too unpredictable.

You're Welcome.

[ApricotSinner32]

here.. i'll say you 124 hrs of vids to learn how to come up on top. i'll do it in 9 seconds, and you'll know just as much and all you need to know. period. no need to learn formulas, probabilities, calculus, shmalculus, logarithms, algebra, etc.. that's all useless.

have a chart that tells you what the no vig line is for each line.. Now just beat that # consistenly on the closing line, and you'll win over the long haul........ PROMISE

Example

-105/-105.. NO vig line is Even. So take any team +101 or better.

-160/+150.. NO vig line is +/-154. So just take better than +154 on dog OR -154.


Have the chart, follow it to a tee, and you'll end up with the money at the end.. There, you just saved 100 hrs of watching vids. No need to handicap. this shit is too unpredictable.

You're Welcome.

Wrong

[jjgold]

Sinner you will never ever win a gambling fight with Nicky

He is the sharpest man alive

Sinner you got out of fukkin HS last year and your going to tell a seasoned vet he is wrong??

[raydog]

I just watched the first video and the main point is "if you want to be a successful gambler you must beat the closing number".

This is false. (please stop)

The real lesson should be "if you want to be a successful gambler you need to win your bets".

Why does it matter if you placed a losing bet beating the closing line by 2 cents or losing 2 cents from when it opened if you lose the bet either way?

How about a video teaching on how to bet and win?

please dont take this post as a bash on you...the way you think is the reason books make billions...save yourself a lifetime of fukkin misery and stop gambling and stick to overpaying for jagerbombs with buddies...if you dont understand it now, you may never get it and will ruin yourself by being in denial

[acl123]

please dont take this post as a bash on you...the way you think is the reason books make billions...save yourself a lifetime of fukkin misery and stop gambling and stick to overpaying for jagerbombs with buddies...if you dont understand it now, you may never get it and will ruin yourself by being in denial

Nys is correct.
You do not make money on losers.
That is a fact.

[raydog]

Nys is correct.
You do not make money on losers.
That is a fact.

you dont make money by getting beat by line moves...that is your fact, sir.

i can tell you that the most successful gamblers, that any of these gambling sites have seen, dont care which sport they are betting or who is even playing...

[Nicky Santoro]

I just watched the first video and the main point is "if you want to be a successful gambler you must beat the closing number".

This is false.

The real lesson should be "if you want to be a successful gambler you need to win your bets".

Why does it matter if you placed a losing bet beating the closing line by 2 cents or losing 2 cents from when it opened if you lose the bet either way?

it's called MATHEMATICS.. you can't beat math. at the end, math always wins. That's just the way the ball bounces.


that's why casinos that are well run have never had a losing yr, and never will. ever.

[Smoke]

Nicky is sharp as a blade

[Winner_13]

Nicky, the key is to know what the no vig line is

[Nicky Santoro]

Nicky, the key is to know what the no vig line is

YES, and beat that #. that's all you need to know in gambling and all you need to know to win. no need to watch 200 hrs of vid on how to win.

Smokey,

Now i think you're just mocking me. this is like the 4th thread in a row i open and see you post something nice about me. i think you're mocking me now smokey. but no more nice things to say about me. at least for today only..tomorrow's a new day..

i'm not used to this. i'm only used to hearing negative things about me.. like Nicky you are a loser, Nicky you suck.. Nicky get your hands off me or i'll call the police.. Nicky, take your eyes off my daughter you freak, now leave or i'll have you arrested

[russiaboss]

Justin's approach is not going to make you any real money.
You can't be blind to sides and just lather, rinse, repeat over and over again.
You have to choose and pick your spots carefully like a sniper, not scattershot.
Every successful capper/bettor I've ever known is/was a SPOT bettor who
did not bet a large number of events.
Betting 1% of your BR over and over again to earn a 3% edge ain't going
to build you up. You need to stick your neck out and go large a few times.
A 55% win percentage is only .045 on your money with vig.
You're better off laying down on a -2250 favorite in one shot
than laboring through a year of scattershot to make a mere 4.5%.

[russiaboss]

you dont make money by getting beat by line moves...that is your fact, sir.

i can tell you that the most successful gamblers, that any of these gambling sites have seen, dont care which sport they are betting or who is even playing...

[frogsrangers]

YES, and beat that #. that's all you need to know in gambling and all you need to know to win. no need to watch 200 hrs of vid on how to win.

Smokey,

Now i think you're just mocking me. this is like the 4th thread in a row i open and see you post something nice about me. i think you're mocking me now smokey. but no more nice things to say about me. at least for today only..tomorrow's a new day..

i'm not used to this. i'm only used to hearing negative things about me.. like Nicky you are a loser, Nicky you suck.. Nicky get your hands off me or i'll call the police.. Nicky, take your eyes off my daughter you freak, now leave or i'll have you arrested

I know your reasoning is correct, but variance is still a bitch

I beat the closing line and still lost 12 plays in a row from July 8 to July 14.

A lot of people think beating the closing line = a winner, but we all know thats not true

A good analogy for beating the closing line is like doubling down with 11 in blackjack. It's the right play to make when it comes to value, but its not always going to win. But keep doing it over the long run, and it will show a return.

[Nicky Santoro]

I know your reasoning is correct, but variance is still a bitch

I beat the closing line and still lost 12 plays in a row from July 8 to July 14.

A lot of people think beating the closing line = a winner, but we all know thats not true

A good analogy for beating the closing line is like doubling down with 11 in blackjack. It's the right play to make when it comes to value, but its not always going to win. But keep doing it over the long run, and it will show a return.

i play only weak #'s and i once lost 19 in a row and 43 of 46 games. it means nothing. sure you'll go bad, but if you continue doing it, you should get it back. just like doubling up on 11 in BJ. you can lose 18 staight double up, but then you will make it back if you keep doing it.

I have literally bet over 750,000 games in my lifetime, no joke. and i'd say maybe 8 of those were my own picks. the rest were taken by bad #'s. i made the book make my picks. and i'd say i am up lifetime. not much, but up.. i was up a helluva lot more 5 yrs ago.. but after 750k bets in my life, if this system didn't work, don't you think i would have been bankrupt 25x in my life with the amount of volume i bet.. (and i don't bet 5$ a game either)

just beat the closer and you should be ok. just remember, it's a long term thing, not 3 weeks. i mean lifetime investment.. not 1 month..

[Winner_13]

lol nicky what happened 5 years ago?
...markets got a lot harder, big guys playing tricks now

[Nicky Santoro]

lol nicky what happened 5 years ago?
...markets got a lot harder, big guys playing tricks now

no winner, i just went on a pretty bad run for 5 yrs, and up until 5 yrs ago, bonuses were a dream. .40% cash, no limit, 3x rollover. now the bonus business is dead, which actually hurts a lot. it's not as easy to make a buck in this business as it once was offshore between 1996 and 2005. those were the golden years.

btw, thanks for the 13 pts winner. you didn't have to buddy..

[GunShard]

Glad these videos were useful for some of you.

It's important to know the difference between betting a -110 line compared to a -500. The more juiced the line is the greater the house edge.

Anyone that didn't watch the "Parlays and juice" video.
A straight ATS bet: 4.5% house edge
2 team parlay: 10% house edge
10 team parlay: 71% house edge

We can all agree that a 10 team parlay is very square to bet on in the long run. You get bankrupt fast.

[Winner_13]

I thought that post would save a lot of ppl time.
Unless Justin7 tells them the precise and market beatable way to calculate the no vig closing line, you saved a lot of ppl time.

[GunShard]

you dont make money by getting beat by line moves...that is your fact, sir.

i can tell you that the most successful gamblers, that any of these gambling sites have seen, dont care which sport they are betting or who is even playing...

There's differences in sports. Hockey and Baseball will never have -500 favorites compared to Football, Basketball, Tennis, MMA and Boxing.
There's more luck than skill in Hockey and Baseball, that's why the playoffs is determined in the best of 7 series. If they used the football playoffs structure, where a team wins 1 game to advance, the worst team could win the Stanley Cup and World Series.

[GunShard]

here.. i'll save you 124 hrs of vids to learn how to come up on top. i'll do it in 9 seconds, and you'll know just as much and all you need to know. period. no need to learn formulas, probabilities, calculus, shmalculus, logarithms, algebra, etc.. that's all useless.

have a chart that tells you what the no vig line is for each line.. Now just beat that # consistenly on the closing line, and you'll win over the long haul........ PROMISE

Example

-105/-105.. NO vig line is Even. So take any team +101 or better.

-160/+150.. NO vig line is +/-154. So just take better than +154 on dog OR -154.


Have the chart, follow it to a tee, and you'll end up with the money at the end.. There, you just saved 100 hrs of watching vids. No need to handicap. this shit is too unpredictable.

You're Welcome.

Incase gamblers don't know what Vig is. They should read this website.
http://www.betus.com.pa/sports-betti...-when-betting/