1. 07-12-12 10:32 AM #1
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    Most People Just Don't have Mentality To Win

    Many pick winners
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  2. 07-12-12 10:35 AM #2
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  3. 07-12-12 10:37 AM #3
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    yeah i agree. it's easy when you are on hot streaks, the most important part is how you handle downswings. you can cap over 50% but most that lose will bet more on the losers than the winners they pick by chasing their losses... i think that's the hardest part of gambling.
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  4. 07-12-12 10:42 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Many pick winners
    The biggest difference between sharps and joe public is exactly that...

    Joe Public tries to pick winners, wants to win every single bet. Never works.

    Sharps pick value.
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  5. 07-12-12 10:42 AM #5
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    2-0 on MMA card last night you fukk.



    Baldy, you have issues
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  6. 07-12-12 10:48 AM #6
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    JJ talking about gambling mentality is like a fukkin Ethopian giving his opinion on an all you can eat buffet.

    Shit they can only dream about.
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  7. 07-12-12 10:51 AM #7
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    Summer fill in JJ
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  8. 07-12-12 10:51 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    2-0 on MMA card last night you fukk.



    Baldy, you have issues
    But if there wasn't value then you lost out on money... Picking winners is rather arbitrary and unimportant.
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  9. 07-12-12 10:51 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer View Post
    The biggest difference between sharps and joe public is exactly that...

    Joe Public tries to pick winners, wants to win every single bet. Never works.

    Sharps pick value.


    Hit Becker +390 in tennis. Look at line now.

    If it loses, people will laugh. Long-term, I will laugh at them.
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  10. 07-12-12 10:55 AM #10
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    all you can say about JJ is : you cant fix stupid
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  11. 07-12-12 11:01 AM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer View Post
    But if there wasn't value then you lost out on money... Picking winners is rather arbitrary and unimportant.
    ??? Seriously, I'm one of the few here that spots value in MMA.
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    Baldy just doesn't like it when I win.

    He tails the loser picks I have.
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  13. 07-12-12 11:11 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer View Post
    But if there wasn't value then you lost out on money... Picking winners is rather arbitrary and unimportant.
    Dumb.You dont make money on losers.
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  14. 07-12-12 11:36 AM #14
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    Here we go

    All the winners coming out
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  15. 07-16-12 09:02 AM #15
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    if i pick a "winner" dont i have a much better chance of winning than if i picked a "value"? "value' bet seems like something that MIGHT win usually involving high lines.
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  16. 07-16-12 09:47 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Many pick winners

    you're the one that lacks confidence. Don't include anyone else unless you actually know
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  17. 07-16-12 09:52 AM #17
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    strange bump
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  18. 07-16-12 10:27 AM #18
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    Patience
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    Intelligence
    Hardworking
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  19. 07-16-12 11:48 AM #19
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    Money Management is way more important.
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  20. 07-16-12 03:41 PM #20
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    Funny how many people in this thread think picking winners is a viable strategy...

    Show me where you can buy a crystal ball then we'll talk...

    99% of SBR are degenerate losers...
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  21. 07-16-12 04:25 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer View Post
    Funny how many people in this thread think picking winners is a viable strategy...

    Show me where you can buy a crystal ball then we'll talk...

    99% of SBR are degenerate losers...
    i would agree with this

    over a million bets the only ways to win are scalping and bonus whoring

    every other strategy will fail you over a million bets, so why use it over 100 bets or 1000 bets
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  22. 07-16-12 06:24 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    i would agree with this

    over a million bets the only ways to win are scalping and bonus whoring

    every other strategy will fail you over a million bets, so why use it over 100 bets or 1000 bets
    There are a couple of others too - mostly related to the ones you mentioned. But most on here think they can "pick" their way to the profits. lol.
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  23. 07-16-12 07:14 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    i would agree with this

    over a million bets the only ways to win are scalping and bonus whoring

    every other strategy will fail you over a million bets, so why use it over 100 bets or 1000 bets
    Yea, that's why I spot bet. JJgold's spreadsheet looks like those millions of bets which is why he is in the negative. I prefer to only bet twice a week or twice a month.

    Edit:
    JJgold is -$57,000 on his spreadsheet. I'm -$200 just started a spreadsheet in May. Going to see if my style gambling works vs JJgold's gambling style.
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  24. 07-16-12 07:15 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Patience
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    Add Bankroll management. This is critical.
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  25. 07-16-12 07:16 PM #25
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    JJ becoming more of a cartoon, just phoning it in. A joke of a joke
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  26. 07-16-12 07:25 PM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDAY View Post
    ??? Seriously, I'm one of the few here that spots value in MMA.
    Betting on a most likely winner Vs Betting on for the value. Sportsbooks do this for a reason.

    Your -450 on Chad Mendes was betting on a winner not much value compared to betting on a -150 fighter.

    Betting on a fighter that is -150 and win, would be spot value.
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  27. 07-17-12 12:12 AM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    Betting on a most likely winner Vs Betting on for the value. Sportsbooks do this for a reason.

    Your -450 on Chad Mendes was betting on a winner not much value compared to betting on a -150 fighter.

    Betting on a fighter that is -150 and win, would be spot value.
    Obviously winning a bet that is -150 is more efficient (because of less risk) than winning a bet that is -450, but if he spot bets something and handicaps that match/game to overcome the no-vig line it should be considered spot value, right?
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  28. 07-17-12 12:19 AM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    Yea, that's why I spot bet. JJgold's spreadsheet looks like those millions of bets which is why he is in the negative. I prefer to only bet twice a week or twice a month.

    League:
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    Date ▼ League Play Price Sportsbook Risk To Win Grade Notes
    07/11/2012 07:14 PM Other -185Renan Barao -185 5dimes $500.00 $270.27
    07/11/2012 07:08 PM Other -280Hector Lombard -280 5dimes $500.00 $178.57
    07/07/2012 10:45 PM Other +110Mark Munoz +110 Intertops $200.00 $220.00
    07/07/2012 02:42 AM Other -300Melvin Guillard -300 Intertops $100.00 $33.33
    07/01/2012 02:47 PM Other -145Dong Hyun Kim -145 Intertops $100.00 $68.97
    06/08/2012 06:22 PM NBA -460Miami Heat -460 Intertops $100.00 $21.74
    06/03/2012 02:08 AM Other -165Erick Silva -165 5dimes $200.00 $121.21
    05/29/2012 09:27 PM Other -220Jake Ellenberger -220 Intertops $100.00 $45.45

    Risked: $1,800.00 Won: $176.28 Lost: -$400.00 Net: -$223.72 Win Percentage 50.00% | 3-3

    you keep mentioning spot betting but you are losing.
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  29. 07-17-12 12:23 AM #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    Yea, that's why I spot bet. JJgold's spreadsheet looks like those millions of bets which is why he is in the negative. I prefer to only bet twice a week or twice a month.


    I wish I had the discipline to do this, ha ha. I bet on high school football....

    nuff said.
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  30. 07-17-12 01:46 AM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by samdapatriotsfan View Post


    I wish I had the discipline to do this, ha ha. I bet on high school football....

    nuff said.
    Yep, 3 years ago when I started gambling, I usually gambled everyday or a few times a week and usually lost. Just like the rest of the public.

    Learning from all the good and bad gamblers. This year I have the discipline and patience to bet twice a week to twice a month.

    The public are usually impulsive gamblers that bet everyday. Betting everyday only gives a person less than 24 hours to research. The greater the research time, the greater the understanding on teams and players.
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  31. 07-17-12 05:32 AM #31
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    My style should win over the long hall in theory but it is not
    I do not think I can ever get back to even unless I bet $55,000 on one game

    I have thought about it
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