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    Like i said they hung 35 points or more in 9 of their 12 games. Dabo is a defensive minded coach, he should have them much better and more consistent this year on the defensive side

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoo youk View Post
    Boyd is still emerging into a great passer and can run the rock while trucking people also really like the run game dabo has implemented, granted they are losing their best rb imo its the system and the new rbs will fill in just fine. They are just so balanced on offense its hard for a defense to defend, especially as one as bad as auburns.
    Clemson has no o-line and a horrible defense

    Without Watkins and Dwayne Allen, and Bellamy, not any threats either

    Also Boyd was pretty bad down the stretch and got worse as opposed to getting better (was a heisman candidate early on)

    Just don't see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Clemson has no o-line and a horrible defense

    Without Watkins and Dwayne Allen, and Bellamy, not any threats either

    Also Boyd was pretty bad down the stretch and got worse as opposed to getting better (was a heisman candidate early on)

    Just don't see it
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    I think we all can agree on that no matter what conference you're a fan of

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    I could use some help this year on picks

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    Watkins not playing is not guaranteed. He has been punished all summer for a minor infraction. I think anyone who really knows how to bet can put away their home team favoritism and see objectively its not Clemson's defensive players who were that bad last year, it was the coaching. Not saying it will be much better this year, but still the coaching.

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    There's a reason this one is 3 TDs. Washington is a good team but they're all finesse and against a physical semi-pro defense like LSU they're in trouble - especially on the road. I might take LSU first half to get a bit more value.

    Keep your eye on Washington who is built to win in the Pac-12 and should be fine in conference but not this game

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    How'd Clemson do the last time they opened up, as a favorite, in Atlanta against an SEC team? look it up...

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    maybe i should have had all my thoughts at once...

    love WVU - 21. Last year in this game the Mountaineers were a bit out of sync (new system, no surprise) and still won by 21. This year they're a hot team coming in, have a proven QB and Holgerson will unleash the hounds. This is a 30+ point win might be a double for me

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