1. 07-04-12 07:42 AM #1
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    Start time angle: Giants playing at 8 am Pacific time?

    I think the 8 am pacific start time v. the Nationals is a nightmare situation for the Giants. Think about it:

    The Giants are coming off a long homestand so their bodies are completely adjusted to pacific time. In the first game on their road trip, they played a night game that started at 4 pm pacific time last night and now they have to start this game at 8 am pacific time?

    There's no way their bodies will be adjusted. Now, is this enough of an angle to make a play? This angle is probably not gonna affect Bumgarner so would you call this information significant for handicapping purposes or not?

    I see several potential ways to play this angle: Giants team total under, Nationals team total over, Nationals score first, first half under, second half total over, Nationals first half, Nationals second half, Nationals for the game
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  2. 07-04-12 07:49 AM #2
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    yeah the problem is bumgarner has had plenty of rest so he could dominate even if the rest of the team lags

    i'm on the nats +105 small
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  3. 07-04-12 07:49 AM #3
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    I'm with...

    re-evaluate the pacific start time of the game last night though... but yeah the idea is the same!

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...ts-b-ball.html
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  4. 07-04-12 09:16 AM #4
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    1st half under 4

    That's my conclusion on the best way to play this.
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  5. 07-04-12 09:24 AM #5
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    I've been thinking about it too. My conclusion is this. A low-scoring game.
    Still haven't decided which one to play though. The first half or the full game. Any suggestions?
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  6. 07-04-12 09:32 AM #6
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    Nationals were just on a road trip, spending the last few days of it in the Eastern Time Zone

    Problem is, the Giants had a day off on Monday, plus sent some of their key players to the hotel early last night during the rain delay - Bumgarner included

    Even playing field in terms of the start time in my opinion
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  7. 07-04-12 09:37 AM #7
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    Don't think time diff. will affect game but SF has lost 6 of 9 on road and Nat's will probably win.
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  8. 07-04-12 09:43 AM #8
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    Yeah, I bet some Giants players will be so confused over the time difference they will show up to the park 3 hrs late
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  9. 07-04-12 09:44 AM #9
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    yeah im stunned nats r playing an 1105 am home game
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  10. 07-04-12 09:45 AM #10
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    doesn't this matter more in football than baseball?

    gotta go with the giants here.
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  11. 07-04-12 09:46 AM #11
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    take the Giants nigerians do not like to play early
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  12. 07-04-12 10:31 AM #12
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    I went along with this and backed the Nats. The problem is that Edwin Jackson really sucks. His whole career.

    He starts off by throwing ball after ball, and then after getting ahead of Melky and Panda, he grooves both of them fastballs.

    Guy is just bad.
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  13. 07-04-12 10:39 AM #13
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    Edwin Jackson is medically stupid. Can't blame him.
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  14. 07-04-12 10:39 AM #14
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    E-Jax will be fine. He just has to settle down. Nats bats will hit Bumy today. 3-0 this early is nothing. Nats still very much in this game.
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  15. 07-04-12 10:40 AM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBack View Post
    E-Jax will be fine. He just has to settle down. Nats bats will hit Bumy today. 3-0 this early is nothing. Nats still very much in this game.
    There isn't really anything to suggest that Edwin Jackson has the mental composure to rebound from a bad start. 8 ER his last start in 3 innings. He has these starts consistently his whole career. It could easily be 10-0 by the 3rd.
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  16. 07-04-12 10:45 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    I went along with this and backed the Nats. The problem is that Edwin Jackson really sucks. His whole career.

    He starts off by throwing ball after ball, and then after getting ahead of Melky and Panda, he grooves both of them fastballs.

    Guy is just bad.

    this, just pisses me off when a team I back gives up runs on 0-2, 1-2 counts... why not waste a pitch especially to Pablo
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  17. 07-04-12 10:45 AM #17
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    Nice start by the Giants. Maybe they need to move the city of San Francisco to the east coast.
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  18. 07-04-12 10:45 AM #18
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    He is known to have a shaky 1st or 3nd inning then he settles in. Look he just got out of a little jam here in the 2nd. Nats bats are hot so 3-0 isnt hard for them to come back on. Also Bumy took a liner of his leg. No telling how that will affect him. So i still like the Nats in this one. I dont see Giants scoring anymore.
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  19. 07-04-12 10:46 AM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceminers26 View Post
    this, just pisses me off when a team I back gives up runs on 0-2, 1-2 counts... why not waste a pitch especially to Pablo
    Edwin Jackson thinks his straight 93 MPH fastball is unhittable.
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  20. 07-04-12 10:47 AM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBack View Post
    He is known to have a shaky 1st or 3nd inning then he settles in. Look he just got out of a little jam here in the 2nd. Nats bats are hot so 3-0 isnt hard for them to come back on. Also Bumy took a liner of his leg. No telling how that will affect him. So i still like the Nats in this one. I dont see Giants scoring anymore.
    I could see Bumgarner shutting out the Nats. He's good enough to shut out anyone when he is on. Looks pretty on so far.
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  21. 07-04-12 10:56 AM #21
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    Edwin Jackson's ERA is 10 in the first inning?

    Why don't the Nats have him throw a simulated inning right before the game? Need to treat this guy like a baby.
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  22. 07-04-12 11:06 AM #22
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    Here comes the Nats baby. Told u guys. U giant backers are going down.
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  23. 07-04-12 11:06 AM #23
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    Must have all taken their morning dumps at 7:30 AM PST, ate their wheeties, and decided to cash 3 runs in the top of 1
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  24. 07-04-12 11:13 AM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBack View Post
    Here comes the Nats baby. Told u guys. U giant backers are going down.
    Never thought I'd see Bumgarner give up 5 straight runners with 2 outs. Very flukey.
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  25. 07-04-12 11:18 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBack View Post
    Here comes the Nats baby. Told u guys. U giant backers are going down.
    Also on the nats! Still early atleast we are tied up
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  26. 07-04-12 11:19 AM #26
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    Uh oh. Edwin Jackson thinks it is the first inning again since it is tied.

    Guy sucks.
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  27. 07-04-12 11:34 AM #27
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    SF is one of the most overrated teams ou there. There bats are not consistent and they have trouble putting runs on the board. Everybody loves thier pitching staff but with thier weak bats and weak bullpen makes them very risky to play no matter whos on the mound for them.

    Just think if it was the Nats that went up 3-0 on SF there would be no way they could come back. The Nats are just a better all around team. Plus them being at home and being as hot as they are how could anyone bet agianst them. The odds makers and vegas are laughing all the way to the bank.
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  28. 07-04-12 11:36 AM #28
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    Sure hope Edwin Jackson can hold on to this 1 run lead. I have my worries though.
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    Not over till its over... Go nats
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  30. 07-04-12 11:53 AM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post
    Sure hope Edwin Jackson can hold on to this 1 run lead. I have my worries though.
    He will dont worry. And the Nats bullpen will not let this lead up. Giants bats are weak and E-jax is in a groove now. Its cash money time for the Nats.
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  31. 07-04-12 11:55 AM #31
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    Back to back bombs by the Nats
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    Wooo thats what im talking about!!
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  33. 07-04-12 12:01 PM #33
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    Did i not tell u guys. Even when Nats were down 3 after that 1st i kept telling u guys. Giants bats and Bumy way overrated.

    Nats cashed easy !!
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  34. 07-04-12 12:06 PM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBack View Post
    Did i not tell u guys. Even when Nats were down 3 after that 1st i kept telling u guys. Giants bats and Bumy way overrated.

    Nats cashed easy !!

    Easy man, its not over yet...but I will agree I wish I had the balls to get an incredible add on when the Nats were down 3-0. But already had 2 units on the Nats and didnt want to put any more on, o well
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  35. 07-04-12 12:31 PM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by PickWinnerAllDay View Post
    There isn't really anything to suggest that Edwin Jackson has the mental composure to rebound from a bad start. 8 ER his last start in 3 innings. He has these starts consistently his whole career. It could easily be 10-0 by the 3rd.
    Ummm this is when it was over......this kid is as good as Brock as a mush. He will claim he won 15 other games today though
    his current record is 1232456-27 mlbhe only posted the 27 though
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