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    SBR Lou
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    4's gone wild! SBR Casino 4th of July special! 4-1 Blackjack is back!

    SBR Casino 4th of July special

    Celebrate the 4th with the SBR Casino. Promo runs from 4-5PM ET.

    Fine-print
    1. Blackjack single-deck only.
    2. Blackjacks will pay 4/1 during promo period. Thread will be updated once promo is live.
    3. Min bet 4, max bet 4.

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    Hate to be a whiner, but 4? 4????? Shouldn't it at least be 7? As in 7/4.

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    high rollers only

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    sweating

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Hate to be a whiner, but 4? 4????? Shouldn't it at least be 7? As in 7/4.
    Well, considering the fact that at least 700 posters will flock to the promo, there will be plenty of winners


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    at 4/1 you have to be a complete imbecile not to come out ahead.
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    No thanks. I'm retired from blackjack. Learned my lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    Well, considering the fact that at least 700 posters will flock to the promo, there will be plenty of winners

    if 700 people log into SBR to play this on the 4th of july they all need to get a life JMHO

    nothing against the promo or SBR

    just saying....

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    Meaning if you bet 1 you win 4, but i bet the odds of winning will be 50% lower than it is now, we shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    if 700 people log into SBR to play this on the 4th of july they all need to get a life JMHO

    nothing against the promo or SBR

    just saying....
    Good observation. This site is full of Americans, right?

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    Hey Lou,

    by MIN bet=4/MAX bet=4...u mean that only bets of exactly 4 betpoints will be rewarded with the special 4-1 payout on player BJ's...

    in other words, to have a chance for the bonus payouts...we all must flat bet exactly 4points each hand for the 1 hour that the promo runs...as bets of any size other than 4 points will not be recognized in the promo

    do i have this correct?
    Last edited by fitguy67; 07-02-12 at 11:49 PM.

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    4 point limit? One hour only?

    What is this shit?

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    Lou, or any sbr-casino BJ/single-deck regulars...

    the "help" file that comes up from within the game is next to useless...only rule i'm sure about is that the dealer stands on soft 17...

    I need to know the exact rules in order to run up a strategy table... (which I'll share a link to once it's ready)...what i need is the answer to these items...

    5 points to the first fully-ACCURATE response

    ___________________

    1. ***BJ pays:
    A=the usual "3-2"...or
    B=the much hated "6-5" payout

    2. ***Double allowed on:
    A= Any 2 cards
    B=on hard 9, 10, 11 totals only
    C=on hard 10, 11 totals only
    D=on hard/soft 9,10,11 totals

    3. ***Dealer peeks (and reveals if a BJ is present) for BJ (thus saving the player from "wasting" $ on doubling/splitting unnecessarily)
    A=on any 10-valued card or Ace
    B=on Ace only
    C=dealer does NOT peek

    4. ***Splitting (and Re-Splitting may produce a maximum total of _______ hands (would expect 2=no resplitting, 4, or 8 here)

    5. ***if Re-splitting is allowed (thus something larger than 2 is the answer to the above item)...are Aces allowed to be RE-split? A=yes/B=NO

    6. ***Doubling after a split is:
    A=allowed
    B=NOT allowed

    7.***Split Aces:
    A=may be hit
    B=may NOT be hit

    8.***the "surrender option (I expect this to NOT be in effect for a single-deck game) but if it does, specify please

    9.***any other special rules player should be aware of (such as bonus payouts for large-number of cards in a non-busting hand..)

    _________________________
    Last edited by fitguy67; 07-03-12 at 12:07 PM. Reason: correct "2-1" to "3-2" in item #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    if 700 people log into SBR to play this on the 4th of july they all need to get a life JMHO

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    dang 1-2pm my time is gonna be tough to do on the 4rth - cool promo tho, since we get 4-1

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    Ran the numbers quickly - nearly everyone will win with this setup (99%+)

    Just make sure you start with 150 points or above, then you can't bust out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeeeHAWWWW View Post
    Ran the numbers quickly - nearly everyone will win with this setup (99%+)

    Just make sure you start with 150 points or above, then you can't bust out.
    challenge accepted.

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    tough for me to do it cause thats prime bbq time on the east coast, but hell yea SBR this is an awesome promo cant beat this anywhere, the last one somewhat like this during superbowl i believe? was great! thanks sbr

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy67 View Post
    Hey Lou,

    by MIN bet=4/MAX bet=4...u mean that only bets of exactly 4 betpoints will be rewarded with the special 4-1 payout on player BJ's...

    in other words, to have a chance for the bonus payouts...we all must flat bet exactly 4points each hand for the 1 hour that the promo runs...as bets of any size other than 4 points will not be recognized in the promo

    do i have this correct?
    No other bet sizes will be possible during the promo period. We will alter the min and max bet to exactly 4 points in Blackjack single-deck, so make sure you are in the right game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy67 View Post
    Lou, or any sbr-casino BJ/single-deck regulars...

    the "help" file that comes up from within the game is next to useless...only rule i'm sure about is that the dealer stands on soft 17...

    I need to know the exact rules in order to run up a strategy table... (which I'll share a link to once it's ready)...what i need is the answer to these items...

    5 points to the first fully-ACCURATE response

    ___________________

    1. ***BJ pays:
    A=the usual "2-1"...or
    B=the much hated "6-5" payout

    2. ***Double allowed on:
    A= Any 2 cards
    B=on hard 9, 10, 11 totals only
    C=on hard 10, 11 totals only
    D=on hard/soft 9,10,11 totals

    3. ***Dealer peeks (and reveals if a BJ is present) for BJ (thus saving the player from "wasting" $ on doubling/splitting unnecessarily)
    A=on any 10-valued card or Ace
    B=on Ace only
    C=dealer does NOT peek

    4. ***Splitting (and Re-Splitting may produce a maximum total of _______ hands (would expect 2=no resplitting, 4, or 8 here)

    5. ***if Re-splitting is allowed (thus something larger than 2 is the answer to the above item)...are Aces allowed to be RE-split? A=yes/B=NO

    6. ***Doubling after a split is:
    A=allowed
    B=NOT allowed

    7.***Split Aces:
    A=may be hit
    B=may NOT be hit

    8.***the "surrender option (I expect this to NOT be in effect for a single-deck game) but if it does, specify please

    9.***any other special rules player should be aware of (such as bonus payouts for large-number of cards in a non-busting hand..)

    _________________________
    1. ***BJ pays:
    A=the usual "2-1"...or
    B=the much hated "6-5" payout

    2. ***Double allowed on:
    A= Any 2 cards
    B=on hard 9, 10, 11 totals only
    C=on hard 10, 11 totals only
    D=on hard/soft 9,10,11 totals

    3. ***Dealer peeks (and reveals if a BJ is present) for BJ (thus saving the player from "wasting" $ on doubling/splitting unnecessarily)
    A=on any 10-valued card or Ace
    B=on Ace only
    C=dealer does NOT peek

    4. ***Splitting (and Re-Splitting may produce a maximum total of _i've had 4______ hands (would expect 2=no resplitting, 4, or 8 here)

    5. ***if Re-splitting is allowed (thus something larger than 2 is the answer to the above item)...are Aces allowed to be RE-split? A=yes/B=NO

    6. ***Doubling after a split is:
    A=allowed
    B=NOT allowed

    7.***Split Aces:
    A=may be hit
    B=may NOT be hit

    8.***the "surrender option (I expect this to NOT be in effect for a single-deck game) but if it does, specify please NO

    9.***any other special rules player should be aware of (such as bonus payouts for large-number of cards in a non-busting hand..)
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    one hr only ????

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    at most you can win 10X of 4 points .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    at 4/1 you have to be a complete imbecile not to come out ahead.
    with a four point max bet who fcking cares? What are you going to make 100 points off this promo and spend it on a 15th of your pizza?

    Time value of money folks. Think about it, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy67 View Post
    Lou, or any sbr-casino BJ/single-deck regulars...

    the "help" file that comes up from within the game is next to useless...only rule i'm sure about is that the dealer stands on soft 17...

    I need to know the exact rules in order to run up a strategy table... (which I'll share a link to once it's ready)...what i need is the answer to these items...

    5 points to the first fully-ACCURATE response

    ___________________

    1. ***BJ pays:
    A=the usual "2-1"...or
    B=the much hated "6-5" payout

    2. ***Double allowed on:
    A= Any 2 cards
    B=on hard 9, 10, 11 totals only
    C=on hard 10, 11 totals only
    D=on hard/soft 9,10,11 totals

    3. ***Dealer peeks (and reveals if a BJ is present) for BJ (thus saving the player from "wasting" $ on doubling/splitting unnecessarily)
    A=on any 10-valued card or Ace
    B=on Ace only
    C=dealer does NOT peek

    4. ***Splitting (and Re-Splitting may produce a maximum total of _______ hands (would expect 2=no resplitting, 4, or 8 here)

    5. ***if Re-splitting is allowed (thus something larger than 2 is the answer to the above item)...are Aces allowed to be RE-split? A=yes/B=NO

    6. ***Doubling after a split is:
    A=allowed
    B=NOT allowed

    7.***Split Aces:
    A=may be hit
    B=may NOT be hit

    8.***the "surrender option (I expect this to NOT be in effect for a single-deck game) but if it does, specify please

    9.***any other special rules player should be aware of (such as bonus payouts for large-number of cards in a non-busting hand..)

    _________________________
    For something like this I would think, unless your understanding of basic strategy is completely in left field, it would be a huge waste to spend time consulting a chart... Being limited to max bets of 4 points (with close decisions being worth such a small fraction of a point) should make sacrificing precise accuracy for speed the clearly correct decision...
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    id be in for 3 points but 4 is just too high...

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    @Ronzer, you're wrong dude on three occasions. Don't fukk around for 5 points you mush.

    @LVHerbie, fitguy is the next up and comer around here. Guy is sharp as a tack and takes everything VERY seriously, which is the way it should be.

    @Fitguy, to answer your questions:

    1. ***BJ pays:
    A=the usual "2-1"...or
    B=the much hated "6-5" payout

    2. ***Double allowed on:
    A= Any 2 cards
    B=on hard 9, 10, 11 totals only
    C=on hard 10, 11 totals only
    D=on hard/soft 9,10,11 totals

    3. ***Dealer peeks (and reveals if a BJ is present) for BJ (thus saving the player from "wasting" $ on doubling/splitting unnecessarily)
    A=on any 10-valued card or Ace
    B=on Ace only
    C=dealer does NOT peek

    4. ***Splitting (and Re-Splitting may produce a maximum total of __4__ hands (would expect 2=no resplitting, 4, or 8 here)

    5. ***if Re-splitting is allowed (thus something larger than 2 is the answer to the above item)...are Aces allowed to be RE-split? A=yes/B=NO (If you split the aces in your holl, you only get one card)

    6. ***Doubling after a split is:
    A=allowed
    B=NOT allowed

    7.***Split Aces:
    A=may be hit
    B=may NOT be hit

    8.***the "surrender option (I expect this to NOT be in effect for a single-deck game) but if it does, specify please. YES, you can surrender your hole cards.

    9.***any other special rules player should be aware of (such as bonus payouts for large-number of cards in a non-busting hand..) None that I'm aware of.
    Last edited by dj_destroyer; 07-03-12 at 11:34 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dj_destroyer View Post
    @Ronzer, you're wrong dude on three occasions. Don't fukk around for 5 points you mush.

    @LVHerbie, fitguy is the next up and comer around here. Guy is sharp as a tack and takes everything VERY seriously, which is the way it should be.

    @Fitguy, to answer your questions:

    1. ***BJ pays:
    A=the usual "2-1"...or
    B=the much hated "6-5" payout

    2. ***Double allowed on:
    A= Any 2 cards
    B=on hard 9, 10, 11 totals only
    C=on hard 10, 11 totals only
    D=on hard/soft 9,10,11 totals

    3. ***Dealer peeks (and reveals if a BJ is present) for BJ (thus saving the player from "wasting" $ on doubling/splitting unnecessarily)
    A=on any 10-valued card or Ace
    B=on Ace only
    C=dealer does NOT peek

    4. ***Splitting (and Re-Splitting may produce a maximum total of __4__ hands (would expect 2=no resplitting, 4, or 8 here)

    5. ***if Re-splitting is allowed (thus something larger than 2 is the answer to the above item)...are Aces allowed to be RE-split? A=yes/B=NO (If you split aces, you only get one card)

    6. ***Doubling after a split is:
    A=allowed
    B=NOT allowed

    7.***Split Aces:
    A=may be hit
    B=may NOT be hit

    8.***the "surrender option (I expect this to NOT be in effect for a single-deck game) but if it does, specify please. YES, you can surrender your hole cards.

    9.***any other special rules player should be aware of (such as bonus payouts for large-number of cards in a non-busting hand..) None that I'm aware of.
    sorry you know what happened i play the 6 deck version. my bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronzer View Post
    sorry you know what happened i play the 6 deck version. my bad
    blackjack pays 3 -2

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVHerbie View Post
    For something like this I would think, unless your understanding of basic strategy is completely in left field, it would be a huge waste to spend time consulting a chart... Being limited to max bets of 4 points (with close decisions being worth such a small fraction of a point) should make sacrificing precise accuracy for speed the clearly correct decision...

    you're right...creature of habit, i guess...

    "can't see the forest for the trees"

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    Guyz...i just noticed a reasonably huge error I made in my original post (#14) about the rules to this game...and it's been quoted frequently without correction...i just noticed it and want to correct it before anyone else calls it to my attention...

    the basic BJ payout is, of course "3-2", not "2-1"...

    this just makes the promo all the more generous (ignoring the low stakes/short time involved...they're obviously to "contain the damage")...cuz a BJ on a 4 under normal rules would gross-pay 10/net-pay 6...(and with the "6/5" payout that's normal for THIS game...it'd gross just 8.8/net just 4.8)...

    but...
    for one magical hour tomorrow (when we, tragically, should be tending to far more important OTHER matters), that same 4 would gross 20 and net 16...making this game largely +EV (on a percentage of risked basis)...but stakes are small & time is short...so there's no serious gains to be made...just a bit of fun for a while with the edge reversed
    Last edited by fitguy67; 07-03-12 at 06:56 PM.

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    nevermind
    Last edited by ronzer; 07-03-12 at 12:52 PM. Reason: opps

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    Didn't really like the SBR blackjack much the first time I played it. I may give it another chance.

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    Too bad I give away my points to posters...

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    nice promo
    is there gonna be a leaderboard ?

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