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    lol ok dude...good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by lines freak View Post
    No, "knowing how to work the bonus" is nothing more than winning youjr bets.

    You take all the free plays you like, Ill win my bets, you lose them. being you know how to work the free play
    you should be ahead.

    Free play means nothing if you lose it.
    Quote Originally Posted by lines freak View Post
    Oh books give free plays because anybody in the know, will know how to beat them and knock them out of business.

    If they dont know, all they need do is ask you how to beat the book with free plays?

    What was your name again, and which book have you consistently beaten with free plays, without winning bets consistently?

    Yea I could explain away all this and even probably help you out some but again as I stated before, with you continuing to drop gems like these (with the one below being especially brilliant), I wouldn't know where to start...


    Quote Originally Posted by lines freak View Post
    Would u rather go 7-3 ats, with no free play, or go 3-7 ats with a free play?
    Thanks alot you made my day...
    Last edited by LVHerbie; 07-02-12 at 05:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVHerbie View Post
    Yea I could explain away all this and even probably help you out some but again as I stated before, with you continuing to drop gems like these (with the one below being especially brilliant), I wouldn't know where to start...



    Thanks alot you made my day...
    Ok, somebody had to make your day after you lost your free play.

    "how to work the free play" yeah it's called winning the game, which is a 50/50 proposition, so u have a 50 percent chance of getting extra money in your account, and thats the first time. after 5 rollovers your percentages go down.

    Unless of course you are siuugning up with new books every day and taking opposite sides on your free play guranteeing one wins.

    But I wont argue, I have to work on collecting my funds from the weekend.

    Heres a tip, stay the hell out of the casino and stick with sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lines freak View Post
    No, winning the bets is the reason you might be up. The free play had nothing to do with you being up, it was just a free play which better win or it puts you in a hole right from the start.
    Freeplay has everything to do with me being up, I use freeplay to book my clients 3 team parlays, they always loose , so I win, I add $20 of extra freeplay to the parlays just in case they win. I win one way or the other. Free play is definitely why Im up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolson View Post
    Freeplay has everything to do with me being up, I use freeplay to book my clients 3 team parlays, they always loose , so I win, I add $20 of extra freeplay to the parlays just in case they win. I win one way or the other. Free play is definitely why Im up.
    Well thats a different realm than this conversation. Your acting as a bookie not a player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtneer1212 View Post
    in most cases with BetPhoenix and BetIslands, you only have to rollover the winnings from your freeplay, not the freeplay amount. So if you lose it, you just have to rollover your deposit.

    that is not true.

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    400 depost, 400 freeplay (if you know anything about free plays you should be able to turn that into $300 cash), $9.90 transaction fee.

    Add all that up you get $1109.90. 1109.90 x 12= $13,318.80. There's your required handle

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    LOL

    do any of you guys have a clue on how the rollover works?

    they must love you guys as you don't ask for a payout until you rolled it over more times than you should have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    LOL

    do any of you guys have a clue on how the rollover works?

    they must love you guys as you don't ask for a payout until you rolled it over more times than you should have.
    You're right it's not bonus plus winnings, just winnings from bonus. So 709.90 x 12. $8518.80

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    Quote Originally Posted by lines freak View Post
    Well thats a different realm than this conversation. Your acting as a bookie not a player.
    Even if acting as just a player, anyone can turn $400 freeplay into $200 cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolson View Post
    Even if acting as just a player, anyone can turn $400 freeplay into $200 cash.
    You realize what the person you talking to believes right? Not only are free plays worth nothing but taking one also has an influence on your win rate....

    Quote Originally Posted by lines freak View Post
    Would u rather go 7-3 ats, with no free play, or go 3-7 ats with a free play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dolson View Post
    Even if acting as just a player, anyone can turn $400 freeplay into $200 cash.
    Not if you lose the free play. That is the point. You must win some or all of the free play.

    Id rather spend my time handicapping games, than try to figure out how to make money off a free play. You cant get free plays every day, so yo better learn how to pick games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVHerbie View Post
    You realize what the person you talking to believes right? Not only are free plays worth nothing but taking one also has an influence on your win rate....
    You think you are some kind of money making Mogul. There are articles online which anybody can read about "making money off of free plays" and other people posting on forums like this about it.

    Its not some kind of well kept secret.

    Never said free plays were worth nothing, or affecting winning percentage. Anybody who can read knows I didnt say that/

    Actually free plays are worth... a 50/50 chance of getting twice your money in your account.

    And the point about the ats record is, if you win your bets, more than 52%, you will make money.

    If you want to make money just for sake of making money, start a downline, or recruit people to sign up.

    But if you bet long term, your winning percenatge is what makes you profit, not if you can squeeze money out of a free play for a quick fix. You only get one free play, if you are winning and not depositing every day.

    My problem has always been discipline and pissing money away in casino.

    Getting better.

    But Im here for any tips you might need.

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