1. 06-19-12 11:11 PM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogsrangers View Post
    Scenario:

    OKC makes adjustments and steals Game 5 because Miami doesnt come to play thinking they have the series won

    Goes back to OKC, all pressure on Miami

    OKC wins a hard fought Game 6 in front of rowdy home crowd

    All bets are off in Game 7

    It can happen, just not likely

    But Boston Red Sox in 2004 and 2007 show it can be done
    how about a Tornado blow the roof off and lebron got kill and wade in coma and you woke up. OKC~RIP
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  2. 06-19-12 11:11 PM #37
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  3. 06-19-12 11:12 PM #38
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    Okc and I will get last laugh
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  4. 06-19-12 11:21 PM #39
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    I like it Paco.

    It's simple.

    If you believe OKC wins game 5, you take them to win the series at these odds, insane value.

    OKC wont lose game 6 at home, so your basic logic has to believe it goes 7. If it goes to a game 7 - which it very easily could, this is not a bad bet, and a great value.
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  5. 06-19-12 11:24 PM #40
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    Paco I'm tailing you here it's gotta happen sometime. Some team has to be the one that comes back down 3-1 they go back home after the next. Miami might come out flat thinking it's over.
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  6. 06-19-12 11:30 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by frogsrangers View Post
    People need to realize that everything changes if the series goes back to OKC

    Miami needs to win on Thursday to feel safe

    I wouldn't want to go back to OKC if I were them

    Talk about pressure

    wouldnt surprise me at all if heat drop gm 5, but that will be it, they will go in to okc and win in 6...

    please dont quote how they have only dropped 1 gm at home, that easy when you play a aging kobe, a dal team that was content with one ring, and a spurs group with a aging hof'er and bunch of roll players...i know you all up on okc nuts from day 1 but face it despite your insistance that okc is the better team that is simply not true..
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  7. 06-19-12 11:31 PM #42
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    I have always liked fading teams on their first close out attempt.

    Miami has serious mental issues.

    The value is there.
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  8. 06-19-12 11:39 PM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    I have always liked fading teams on their first close out attempt.

    Miami has serious mental issues.

    The value is there.

    agreed, really considering a okc gm 5 bet....tough to get off the heat gravy train but think okc young guns may come out loose and firing on all cylinders in this one..
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  9. 06-19-12 11:47 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    IMO , if you believe this 'dream come true' skip the series --- put down a nice gm5 ML wager
    Urgency is a great motivational factor.
    I agree. I think gm 5 is the best opportunity for a Thunder win.
    However I do also think the Heat would then rebound and win gm 6 in OKC.

    The following is the template for the Thunder/Heat Finals.
    Check out the 1998 NBA Finals when Utah met Chicago.
    Teams had identical records and were considered very evenly matched. In fact the Jazz may have been slight series favorites due to the home court advantage.

    Series summary 2-3-2 format
    Game Date Home Team Result Road Team
    Game 1 Wed, June 3 Utah Jazz 88-85 OT (1-0) Chicago Bulls
    Game 2 Friday, June 5 Utah Jazz 88-93 (1-1) Chicago Bulls
    Game 3 Sunday, June 7 Chicago Bulls 96-54 (2-1) Utah Jazz
    Game 4 Wed, June 10 Chicago Bulls 86-82 (3-1) Utah Jazz
    Game 5 Friday, June 12 Chicago Bulls 81-83 (3-2) Utah Jazz
    Game 6 Sund, June 14 Utah Jazz 86-87 (2-4) Chicago Bulls

    Bulls win the series 4-2
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  10. 06-19-12 11:48 PM #45
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    I'm sorry but beating the spurs lakers and Mavs to me says a lot. All very good teams way better than the heat played to get here and the heat struggled to make it to the finals.
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  11. 06-19-12 11:49 PM #46
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    Okc gm 5 ml +140 (2x)

    Okc series +400 (3x)
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  12. 06-19-12 11:52 PM #47
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    5 Dimes... OKC +400

    I think if you wait... you'll have better odds by game time.
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  13. 06-19-12 11:54 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatommack View Post
    I'm sorry but beating the spurs lakers and Mavs to me says a lot. All very good teams way better than the heat played to get here and the heat struggled to make it to the finals.

    ive heard this a lot coming into this series and while hard to argue that okc beat slightly better teams i think spurs, lakers, and mavs getting to much respect in this argument...a dal team that was clearly content on just winning 1, a la team with a aging kobe, no pg, and a center that only plays when he feels like it, and a spurs team while very well coached and had a great regular season is ultimately a aging Hof'er and a bunch of role players... heat would have rolled thru that draw same as okc imho..
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  14. 06-20-12 10:49 AM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    I have always liked fading teams on their first close out attempt.

    Miami has serious mental issues.

    The value is there.
    thats the thing that has CHANGED EVERYTHING. Miami is over their mental issues. other wise they wouldnt have closed out these last two close games. in the past when they were mentally weak they would fold and not close out the game. they have turned the page.
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  15. 06-20-12 10:53 AM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatommack View Post
    I'm sorry but beating the spurs lakers and Mavs to me says a lot. All very good teams way better than the heat played to get here and the heat struggled to make it to the finals.
    no. the Heat played a up and coming hungry very talented Indiana team that presented huge match up problems for them inside without Bosh, they got over that. They faced great coached Boston team who were coming in with so much motivation and heart with this being there last run at the title with the best PG in the league going off every game and they got over that..all without Bosh.

    they have now crossed the mental hurdles, have Bosh back..Chalmers loves the big spotlight going back to hitting the game winning 3 in national championship game, to perfect role player shane battier. this is a wrap. miami is going to be a force to wreckon with for a long time.
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  16. 06-20-12 10:54 AM #51
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    sad to see OPs waste money on hoping for a miracle



    see ya next year OKC
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  17. 06-20-12 11:44 AM #52
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    Everyone talks about how no team has come back from 3-1 in The Finals. Since the 2-3-2 move in 1985, only the '93 Bulls and the '98 Bulls have had to go on the road and win G6 or G7. Obviously Jordan got it done in 6 both times.

    So if you are thinking "OKC has had just about every whistle go against them, gotten nothing from Harden, and still had a chance to win in every game" then yes, +400 series value is great. Because if OKC comes out with their back against the wall, finally has a couple breaks go their way, and takes game 5, then this is anyone's series. And after just one game the pressure would be squarely on Miami to avoid a historic collapse.
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  18. 06-20-12 11:45 AM #53
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    City will be heavy favs in game 6 and 7

    -350 or so on ML
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  19. 06-20-12 11:53 AM #54
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    only way refs might change is if people unload huge amounts of money on mia ml rest of the way, okc pretty much sealed its fate by accomplishing very little in closing minutes this series so far (in comparison to heatles).
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  20. 06-20-12 01:04 PM #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Records are meant to be broken. If anyone can do it, it's okc
    Yes. If anyone's meant to do it, it's a team that's never been in the Finals before.


    What?
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  21. 06-20-12 01:10 PM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pross1 View Post
    Yes. If anyone's meant to do it, it's a team that's never been in the Finals before.


    What?
    Too young to know any better.

    As has been mentioned, Miami fails to win game 5, OKC wont lose at home in that environment for game 6. OKC will be playing loose.

    The thought of a LeBron collapse could paralyze these guys.

    Basically, one has to believe that if OKC wins the next game, it is going 7 games. Who are you taking then?
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  22. 06-20-12 01:12 PM #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pross1 View Post
    Yes. If anyone's meant to do it, it's a team that's never been in the Finals before.


    What?
    Did u believe okc would beat spurs 4 straight times?
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  23. 06-20-12 01:17 PM #58
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    how much $ are you putting on it.
    my guess, minimal.
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  24. 06-20-12 01:17 PM #59
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    im not seeing a lebron collapse this year, at least in game 5. from a math standpoint, i think its a good bet, pinnacle got +361 as of right now.
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  25. 06-20-12 01:20 PM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    how much $ are you putting on it.
    my guess, minimal.
    Post #46
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  26. 06-20-12 01:54 PM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by tatommack View Post
    I'm sorry but beating the spurs lakers and Mavs to me says a lot. All very good teams way better than the heat played to get here and the heat struggled to make it to the finals.
    Mavs suck, Lakers have no PG and Spurs got robbed. Your point?
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  27. 06-20-12 01:57 PM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    City will be heavy favs in game 6 and 7

    -350 or so on ML
    lmao your fkn insane.
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  28. 06-20-12 01:58 PM #63
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    I suffered through my favorite team losing to the Bulls, consecutively. All of us fans felt like we had the better team and that we weren't getting the calls. Most of the games were close enough to have gone either way.
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  29. 06-20-12 02:28 PM #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    City will be heavy favs in game 6 and 7

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    god u dont know anything do u
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  30. 06-20-12 02:36 PM #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    Too young to know any better.

    As has been mentioned, Miami fails to win game 5, OKC wont lose at home in that environment for game 6. OKC will be playing loose.

    The thought of a LeBron collapse could paralyze these guys.

    Basically, one has to believe that if OKC wins the next game, it is going 7 games. Who are you taking then?
    OKC is done. Even if they win game 5 they are losing game 6 100%. What makes you think they'll be loose in an elimination game? They have folded under the pressure in this series and that's not gonna change.

    OKC is done is game 5. It's over.
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  31. 06-20-12 02:44 PM #66
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    i don't know pal. it's an uphill battle. live betting the team that's down 10 or more is money in this series...
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  32. 06-20-12 02:46 PM #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Did u believe okc would beat spurs 4 straight times?
    This is a different animal. Wade/Bosh and James are all in the prime. Only Spur in his prime is Parker. Duncan disappeared for the entire series and Manu only played well in 2 of the games. Who else was going to score for the Spurs?
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  33. 06-20-12 02:48 PM #68
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    i like it paco
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  34. 06-20-12 02:54 PM #69
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    i see it as the refs are wanting the heat , and wanting it over . gl man
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  35. 06-20-12 04:19 PM #70
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    The league needs Miami this year it's over. On the playground OKC could win 3 straight. They cannot here and it has nothing to do with any of the on court play by the players. This is about the money, big time. Good luck I want it to happen but it will not.
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