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  • JIBBBY
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    • 12-10-09
    • 83686

    #281
    I like CCR Knickers...

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    • khicks26
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      • 09-16-06
      • 45596

      #282
      Not from Neal but ties in great with the thyme of the thread.


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      • khicks26
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        • 09-16-06
        • 45596

        #283
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        I like CCR Knickers...

        Your a good old country boy at heart Jibby. I knew I liked you for some reason.

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        • JIBBBY
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 12-10-09
          • 83686

          #284
          Saw John Fogerty at the Hollywood bowl on 4th of July years ago.. He killed it.. One of my favorite concerts of all time...

          Been a fan of CCR since I was a kid Knickers!!!

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          • khicks26
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-16-06
            • 45596

            #285
            Originally posted by JIBBBY
            Saw John Fogerty at the Hollywood bowl on 4th of July years ago.. He killed it.. One of my favorite concerts of all time...

            Been a fan of CCR since I was a kid Knickers!!!

            Me too. They always played them on the radio station my mom listened to.
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            • khicks26
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-16-06
              • 45596

              #286
              Originally posted by rkelly110
              You might play that, I play this.

              Yes definitely more fitting.

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              • guitarjosh
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-25-07
                • 5784

                #287
                Originally posted by khicks26
                That's not the reason they didn't pay tax's this year.

                No Amazon hires a lot of part time & Seasonal worker around the holidays.

                Well it does matter were they live & according to the Nuremberg trials that would be against international law.

                WOW that sounds a little different than the way you worded it. LOL

                Then start taxing land site value & economic rents like the classical economist wrote. Our tax system is backwards on purpose.
                There are 2 reasons companies don't pay taxes, loss carry forwards or inversions. Eliminate corporate taxes and the jobs will all come back here and put all business on the same playing field from a tax standpoint.

                Holiday workers are in danger of getting heat stroke in the 110 degree heat? Come on!

                The Nuremberg trials didn't create international law, and the whole reason the left was against the Iraq war was no blood for oil. What law stops us from invading and taking other countries property? There certainly wasn't a law like that 100 years ago when European countries created vast networks of colonies, do you think that was wrong? Why do you think it would be wrong for England to colonize Asia and Africa to take the resources of those places, but it is okay to treat Americans the same way?

                You said in other posts that America was just a little better than Europe.

                If you tax land, the rich will just get the non rich to pay their tax bills. A sales tax is better.
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                • khicks26
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-16-06
                  • 45596

                  #288
                  Originally posted by guitarjosh
                  There are 2 reasons companies don't pay taxes, loss carry forwards or inversions. Eliminate corporate taxes and the jobs will all come back here and put all business on the same playing field from a tax standpoint.

                  Holiday workers are in danger of getting heat stroke in the 110 degree heat? Come on!

                  The Nuremberg trials didn't create international law, and the whole reason the left was against the Iraq war was no blood for oil. What law stops us from invading and taking other countries property? There certainly wasn't a law like that 100 years ago when European countries created vast networks of colonies, do you think that was wrong? Why do you think it would be wrong for England to colonize Asia and Africa to take the resources of those places, but it is okay to treat Americans the same way?

                  You said in other posts that America was just a little better than Europe.

                  If you tax land, the rich will just get the non rich to pay their tax bills. A sales tax is better.
                  No it had something to do with paying employee's in stock, or something like that. If that's what you mean by inversions. Trump pretty much did. Were are all the jobs? Has never worked in the past. Trump lost more jobs in his first year than Obama did in his last. Race to the bottom.

                  I don't know if a holiday worker was the one who got heat stroke. But the story is true. Just like the delivery drive that had to pee in a bottle to meet his quota. See Josh, in some ways the 19th century has returned. Getting your wish.

                  A war of aggression came out of the Nuremberg trials & is international law. Yes I do think its wrong, but the US is the only superpower & doesn't follow the laws.

                  I said less shitty, not worth a boat trip overseas.

                  No its not, a sales tax is a break for rich people. Its regressive, land site & economic rents are not.

                  But I agree on not taxing labor. Would do wonders for the economy.
                  Last edited by khicks26; 06-05-18, 12:02 AM.
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                  • guitarjosh
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                    • 12-25-07
                    • 5784

                    #289
                    Originally posted by khicks26
                    No it had something to do with paying employee's in stock, or something like that. If that's what you mean by inversions. Trump pretty much did. Were are all the jobs? Has never worked in the past. Trump lost more jobs in his first year than Obama did in his last. Race to the bottom.

                    I don't know if a holiday work was the one who got heat stroke. But the story is true. Just the delivery drive that had to pee in a bottle to meet his quota.

                    A war of aggression came out of the Nuremberg trials & is international law. Yes I do think its wrong, but the US is the only superpower & doesn't follow the laws.

                    I said less shitty, not worth a boat trip overseas.

                    No its not a sales tax is a break for rich people. Its regressive, land site & economic rents are not.

                    But I agree on not taxing labor. Would do wonders for the economy.
                    A lot of companies pay employees with stock and pay taxes. Amazon has had years of losses, and those are now being offset with gains. We've had job gains under Trump, not losses, and lower costs have done wonders for workers in China and Mexico. I just want to undercut them and get the jobs to move back.

                    The ONE who got heat stroke? If you work outdoors, the odds are higher you'll get heat stroke. That's hardly a reason to demand high taxes on Amazon.

                    Again, why is it wrong to take from Americans, but not the Saudis? It's not international law. Lefties always complain about the Colonial Era, the American government's treatment of the Indian tribes, but then vote for the same thing.

                    All those people who moved over here, including your ancestors, disagree with you and think it was worth a boat trip overseas.

                    No, taxing land is just going to make the owners of the land pass the costs onto the consumer. You really think the owner of an apartment complex isn't going to pass property tax to the tenants?
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                    • khicks26
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-16-06
                      • 45596

                      #290
                      Originally posted by guitarjosh
                      A lot of companies pay employees with stock and pay taxes. Amazon has had years of losses, and those are now being offset with gains. We've had job gains under Trump, not losses, and lower costs have done wonders for workers in China and Mexico. I just want to undercut them and get the jobs to move back.

                      The ONE who got heat stroke? If you work outdoors, the odds are higher you'll get heat stroke. That's hardly a reason to demand high taxes on Amazon.

                      Again, why is it wrong to take from Americans, but not the Saudis? It's not international law. Lefties always complain about the Colonial Era, the American government's treatment of the Indian tribes, but then vote for the same thing.

                      All those people who moved over here, including your ancestors, disagree with you and think it was worth a boat trip overseas.

                      No, taxing land is just going to make the owners of the land pass the costs onto the consumer. You really think the owner of an apartment complex isn't going to pass property tax to the tenants?
                      Well Amazon paid none last year & surly got tax breaks in the losing years. Bezos sits on a board at the Pentagon. Guy owns the Washington Post. Don't tell me he pays no tax's because of past losses. That's BS.

                      Has nothing to do with tax's, has to do with treating people like shit to make more money.

                      It is international law, a war of aggression is against the law. That's Why. Anyway your argument is a total strawman. Get over it.

                      For some ya. For others no. Not like you had much choice when you got here. My grandfather worked 3 jobs to make ends meet also.

                      If he does, it will still depend on who can afford the rent. As they say location is everything. You benefit from infrastructure your going to pay more. That's not how it works now. Money made in your sleep also. Stocks & Bonds anything considered a free lunch. No labor you get the hell taxed out of you. Like I said are Tax system is backwards from the way it was intended to work.
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                      • DwightShrute
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                        • 01-17-09
                        • 103077

                        #291


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                        • DwightShrute
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                          • 01-17-09
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                          • guitarjosh
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                            • 12-25-07
                            • 5784

                            #293
                            Originally posted by khicks26
                            Well Amazon paid none last year & surly got tax breaks in the losing years. Bezos sits on a board at the Pentagon. Guy owns the Washington Post. Don't tell me he pays no tax's because of past losses. That's BS.

                            Has nothing to do with tax's, has to do with treating people like shit to make more money.

                            It is international law, a war of aggression is against the law. That's Why. Anyway your argument is a total strawman. Get over it.

                            For some ya. For others no. Not like you had much choice when you got here. My grandfather worked 3 jobs to make ends meet also.

                            If he does, it will still depend on who can afford the rent. As they say location is everything. You benefit from infrastructure your going to pay more. That's not how it works now. Money made in your sleep also. Stocks & Bonds anything considered a free lunch. No labor you get the hell taxed out of you. Like I said are Tax system is backwards from the way it was intended to work.
                            You don't get tax breaks in losing years, but you can write losses off against future profits, which is why they're not paying taxes this year.

                            Amazon's profit margins are 2.04%. They have 44.5 billion in debt. It's not like Amazon has a ton of money to throw around. How much do you think it will cost to cool those huge warehouses, let alone give raises of $3 an hour to every employee?

                            It's an act of aggression to take the property of Americans against their will also. It's not a straw man, I just want to know why you want the government to take the property of Americans and give it to you but would protest the government taking the property of foreign countries and giving it to you.

                            What constitutes making ends meet, and he probably wasn't making ends meet over there, which is why he came here and lived a better life.

                            Stock and bonds aren't a free lunch at all, the whole reason the left claims it's against privatizing social security is because it's too risky and you could lose everything. Those are also an integral part of opening a business, issuing debt and shares of stock. Tax that away and you'll see less people open business. Do you really think grocery stores don't pass the cost of their property tax onto the people buying food?
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                            • JIBBBY
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-10-09
                              • 83686

                              #294
                              Originally posted by DwightShrute
                              Dwight, this guy is the best!! Destroys it every time with facts.. I look forward to when you post his videos.. Thanks.. This dude is not fake news!!!!
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                              • RoyBacon
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                                • 09-21-05
                                • 37074

                                #295
                                Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                You don't get tax breaks in losing years, but you can write losses off against future profits, which is why they're not paying taxes this year.

                                Amazon's profit margins are 2.04%. They have 44.5 billion in debt. It's not like Amazon has a ton of money to throw around. How much do you think it will cost to cool those huge warehouses, let alone give raises of $3 an hour to every employee?

                                It's an act of aggression to take the property of Americans against their will also. It's not a straw man, I just want to know why you want the government to take the property of Americans and give it to you but would protest the government taking the property of foreign countries and giving it to you.

                                What constitutes making ends meet, and he probably wasn't making ends meet over there, which is why he came here and lived a better life.

                                Stock and bonds aren't a free lunch at all, the whole reason the left claims it's against privatizing social security is because it's too risky and you could lose everything. Those are also an integral part of opening a business, issuing debt and shares of stock. Tax that away and you'll see less people open business. Do you really think grocery stores don't pass the cost of their property tax onto the people buying food?
                                The left simply can't think that through. All taxes are costs and all costs are passed through to the consumer.

                                What hicks hates and other occupy typys is the CEO of your grocery chain is making $40 million while the baggers are on welfare. I did not know this but that is what they refer to as corporate welfare.

                                So they want a tax or tax code that prevents the owners and management from doing extremely well. All of their tax theory is designed to limit the profit of the owners and salaries of the top management.

                                Did I get that more/less correct hicks? vitty, dante, kelly, ect?
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                                • RoyBacon
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                                  • 09-21-05
                                  • 37074

                                  #296
                                  I should also add that they will gladly accept slower growth and economic weakness that would accompany their tax theory if they could accomplish the goal of limiting executive compensation and ownership returns on investment.
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                                  • JIBBBY
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-10-09
                                    • 83686

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                    The left simply can't think that through. All taxes are costs and all costs are passed through to the consumer.

                                    What hicks hates and other occupy typys is the CEO of your grocery chain is making $40 million while the baggers are on welfare. I did not know this but that is what they refer to as corporate welfare.

                                    So they want a tax or tax code that prevents the owners and management from doing extremely well. All of their tax theory is designed to limit the profit of the owners and salaries of the top management.

                                    Did I get that more/less correct hicks? vitty, dante, kelly, ect?
                                    You got that right ROY..

                                    Democrats love to penalize the rich for being successful in America.. You tax and punish the rich to hard though and the rich business owners move their businesses and jobs to other Countries.. Unemployment rate then increases for American citizens because the jobs then begin to go away.. The little man suffers the most..

                                    It's gets even worse when the little man can't get a job because 12 million illegal immigrants came pouring into our Country taking all the low income jobs.. Many get paid cash under the table and avoid paying taxes into our system. Unemployment rates then continues to increase for the low skilled American citizens.. More get on welfare and unemployment then and our personal taxes then increase to sustain...

                                    That's what was happening under Obama.. It happened here in California more then any other State...Throw strict business regulations and that even makes it worse... Here comes Trump to change all that and now we are seeing positive economical trends happening for all in America..
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                                    • khicks26
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                                      • 09-16-06
                                      • 45596

                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                      The left simply can't think that through. All taxes are costs and all costs are passed through to the consumer.

                                      What hicks hates and other occupy typys is the CEO of your grocery chain is making $40 million while the baggers are on welfare. I did not know this but that is what they refer to as corporate welfare.

                                      So they want a tax or tax code that prevents the owners and management from doing extremely well. All of their tax theory is designed to limit the profit of the owners and salaries of the top management.

                                      Did I get that more/less correct hicks? vitty, dante, kelly, ect?
                                      Supply & Demand sets the price, not tax's. If a low wage worker is on food stamps, that's me & you picking up the cost so that CEO can make his millions. Is it right for you & me to pay a CEO?

                                      Do you have that right now that you know it comes out of your pocket? Or are you going to continue to pine for rich guys?

                                      Or your one of the guys we are paying. Then I could see how you would be for a free lunch.
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                                      • khicks26
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                                        • 09-16-06
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                                        #299
                                        Tell you what Roy & Josh, we should do a poll of the America people & see how many feel strongly about compensating rich guys with our tax dollars.

                                        I'm sure you guys would be against it. Seeing that you don't want even the poor to get something for free. You know like food for their kids to eat & a place to live.

                                        I'm not going to expect a reply to these post. Thinking you guys just might slither away.
                                        Last edited by khicks26; 06-05-18, 12:03 PM.
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                                        • khicks26
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                                          • 09-16-06
                                          • 45596

                                          #300
                                          Poll results just in. 99% oppose 1% in favor of the tax payer picking up the tap for CEO's.

                                          WOW who could have seen that coming.
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                                          • Halfapointoff
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                                            • 01-25-14
                                            • 1677

                                            #301
                                            Thanks Mr. Rich person for giving me a job so I can pay taxes. And for the person peeing in bottle to meet quota...Great job..doing what it takes to be a hard worker and making money.
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                                            • RoyBacon
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                                              • 09-21-05
                                              • 37074

                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by khicks26
                                              Supply & Demand sets the price, not tax's. If a low wage worker is on food stamps, that's me & you picking up the cost so that CEO can make his millions. Is it right for you & me to pay a CEO?

                                              Do you have that right now that you know it comes out of your pocket? Or are you going to continue to pine for rich guys?

                                              Or your one of the guys we are paying. Then I could see how you would be for a free lunch.
                                              Hicks I honestly do not understand your post. I'd be a little surprised if you actually did.

                                              CEO's are like welders. You pay what you have to to get a good one. If employees are on food stamps they should find better paying jobs. If I'm a CEO I'm paying as little as I have to to have a great work force. That's my job.
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                                              • guitarjosh
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                                                • 12-25-07
                                                • 5784

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                Hicks I honestly do not understand your post. I'd be a little surprised if you actually did.

                                                CEO's are like welders. You pay what you have to to get a good one. If employees are on food stamps they should find better paying jobs. If I'm a CEO I'm paying as little as I have to to have a great work force. That's my job.
                                                It's also an issue of math. The CEO of Walmart makes around 20 million a year. There are over 2 million Walmart employees, meaning that if you paid the CEO nothing and divided his pay between each employee, each employee will get less than $2 a year for a raise.
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                                                • khicks26
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                                                  • 09-16-06
                                                  • 45596

                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                  Hicks I honestly do not understand your post. I'd be a little surprised if you actually did.

                                                  CEO's are like welders. You pay what you have to to get a good one. If employees are on food stamps they should find better paying jobs. If I'm a CEO I'm paying as little as I have to to have a great work force. That's my job.
                                                  Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                  It's also an issue of math. The CEO of Walmart makes around 20 million a year. There are over 2 million Walmart employees, meaning that if you paid the CEO nothing and divided his pay between each employee, each employee will get less than $2 a year for a raise.
                                                  Its a matter of the employer not paying enough, & the tax payer making up the difference. Its not hard to understand, you, me & Josh all pay for workers that do nothing for us. No matter how you slice it 20 million or 2 dollars its BS. You could at least agree with that. If you don't agree, you guys should never be able to bitch about poor people getting free stuff again.
                                                  Last edited by khicks26; 06-05-18, 06:22 PM.
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                                                  • rkelly110
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                                                    • 10-05-09
                                                    • 39691

                                                    #305
                                                    I'm glad I'm out of the workforce. I lost all respect for companies in '08. The days of a career are over. Companies
                                                    will use you up after 20 or 30 years then spit you out on your ass because of a little blip in the economy while sitting
                                                    on trillions of cash. Fuk 'em, let the govt take care of them.

                                                    What does Trumpy bear and his cubs do? Rewards them with lower taxes. Defenders of the corporate world need strung
                                                    up from the nearest tree as far as I'm concerned.
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                                                    • RoyBacon
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                                                      • 09-21-05
                                                      • 37074

                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by khicks26
                                                      Its a matter of the employer not paying enough, & the tax payer making up the difference. Its not hard to understand, you, me & Josh all pay for workers that do nothing for us. No matter how you slice it 20 million or 2 dollars its BS. You could at least agree with that. If you don't agree, you guys should never be able to bitch about poor people getting free stuff again.
                                                      You have a void in the concept of a moderately free economy and how to make it work for the working poor.

                                                      You can't limit pay of executives. The good ones will simply leave. Just as they would in the NBA, they would simply go to Europe. You can't mandate higher wages, we already know companies will close, leave, automate or go to part time.

                                                      The answer is so easy but you want a forced government solution and that ends up breaking the system. You need more business. You need Walmart employees quitting to take better jobs and that forces WMT to raise their wages.
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                                                      • khicks26
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-16-06
                                                        • 45596

                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                        You have a void in the concept of a moderately free economy and how to make it work for the working poor.

                                                        You can't limit pay of executives. The good ones will simply leave. Just as they would in the NBA, they would simply go to Europe. You can't mandate higher wages, we already know companies will close, leave, automate or go to part time.

                                                        The answer is so easy but you want a forced government solution and that ends up breaking the system. You need more business. You need Walmart employees quitting to take better jobs and that forces WMT to raise their wages.
                                                        Their already doing that & 1/2 the country make 30k or less a year. 80% of the tax cuts went to the 1 % .

                                                        What else do you want to do for them ROY? Have the tax payer pay their workers. OH YA were already doing that.
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                                                        • khicks26
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 09-16-06
                                                          • 45596

                                                          #308
                                                          and now we know. Nevermind Roy & Josh.
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                                                          • RoyBacon
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                                                            • 09-21-05
                                                            • 37074

                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by khicks26
                                                            Their already doing that & 1/2 the country make 30k or less a year. 80% of the tax cuts went to the 1 % .

                                                            What else do you want to do for them ROY? Have the tax payer pay their workers. OH YA were already doing that.
                                                            What I'm saying is if you actually care about helping people earn a good wage and have the American Dream you MUST increase economic activity. It, with all it's warts, is the holy grail.

                                                            If you put forth policy that weakens the economy you end up with a lot of folks chasing a few jobs. No one wins. You need the exact opposite, policy that unleashes economic growth. You want employers fighting for employees.
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