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Durant Could End Up As The Greatest Scorer In The History of The League
This guy's efficiency, shooting touch, height and athleticism combination is one of the most incredible things I've ever watched. As good as Jordan was, he was never this efficient of a scorer. On top of that, he's averaging 28 ppg in the playoffs on less than 19 shots a game. That's nearly 1.50 points per shot (a number that makes Lebron look inefficient)
He's the greatest offensive player I've ever seen
Good points
The whole team is unstoppable
Originally Posted by jjgold
Durant's true shooting percentage is 64% in the playoffs
64%, holy shit
I have heard a few so called nba experts say Westbrook is the key to that team
Probably because Durant is very consistent while westbrook can be wildly inconsistent
If Westbrook plays well, OKC is untouchable
brama if durant offered you his rooster would you:
a. deep throat it until you gag
b. try to stick it in your asshole without lube
c. get a plaster and make a dildo out of it for eternal worshipping
d. all of the above
Did you ever watch Michael Jordan play?
No I started watching basketball in 2000. I'm a Bulls fan but I came just a little late
Stats don't lie though
Statistically Durant isn't even best player this postseason.
stfu kerry.
you do know kareem holds the record for the greatest scorer title with 38,387 pts?
which means durant would have to score 26 ppg (career avg) for 18 years just to catch him.
of course you didnt.
You're smoking crack
Efficiency >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Volume scoring. Durant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lebron
No, I was referring to overall efficiency. Hopefully you realize that offense is only half the game.
But either way, you're ignoring the effect of usage on offensive efficiency. Durant doesn't even have the highest usage rate on his own team.
still way behind jordan in career efficiency. So is everybody else
The 1991 Finals is by far the most efficient series in NBA history, offense and defense
Durant's actually having an excellent all around playoffs. 8 boards a game and 4 assists a game I believe. He's been solid on defense as well
But either way, you're ignoring the effect of usage on offensive efficiency. Durant doesn't even have the highest usage rate on his own team.
What do you mean? Durant's been very efficient no matter how many shots he has taken. No reason to believe he couldn't maintain his efficiency if he took 20-25 shots a game
No he's not. Field goal percentage is irrelevant, true shooting percentage is the only stat that matters and Durant is at 58% TS for his career (57% for Jordan)
include playoff stats, and Jordan is beyond everybody else
jordan was the best during his era but he was guarded by players like craig ehlo. imagine how many points lebron or durant would score against him...
Durant's a career 28 ppg scorer on 59% TS in the playoffs
He's one of the most efficient players in the history of basketball
Agreed. Still, he is statistically not the most efficient.
Yes, there is reason to believe that with more volume he would become less efficient. Its mathematically probable. Which is why nobody would suggest that Harden is a better offensive player than Durant, despite him having a much higher TS%.
and imagine how much more dominant jordan would have been with no hand checking
Jordan torched excellent defenders like John Starks, it didn't matter who guarded him.
TS is only one measure
That's not a fair comparison. Harden's not the primary focus of the offense, Durant is
The reason I say that taking 2-4 more shots a game wouldn't change his efficiency is because Durant's career efficiency in games where he took at least 20-25 shots is phenomenal
Imagine if Jordan were developing when everyone was taking creatine and using advanced workout techniques. It is all relative. The players now are more evolved.
By what measure? How are you defining this?
john starks would get eaten up by durant and lebron. starks was 6'5" and like 175lbs. no hand checking now but you can't carry the ball like you used to like back in the days.
Durant is the superstar on the team, Harden's basically a glorified role player
when it comes to TS%. You gotta compare superstar to superstar. Otherwise, you can claim Tyson Chandler's a better offensive player than Durant
No. You use usage rate. Its a specific stat intended to measure exactly what you're subjectively attempting to subscribe.
Its why every time you see any type of measurement of efficiency its usually accompanied by a convex-hull that includes usage.
When you get into over analyzing stats, you come away thinking Michael Jordan wasn't clutch and that some guy nobody has ever heard of is the best X of all time. It's pretty easy to see — Durant is the best offensive player on that team.
I'm not sure I understand your point. I don't believe anyone suggested that he isn't the best offensive player on his team. The question is how much his TS% would be affected by an increase in usage.
kareem and milone played for 20 and 19 years, a little soon for durant to catch those scoring records
no one will ever beat lew alcindor's scoring record.
Look I agree with your general notion that "higher volume of shots will generally equal a lower %"
The issue here is that it's just not a legitimate assertion in this case because of Durant's career excellent numbers in games with a very high volume of shots. He's always been very efficient whether he took 30 shots or 15 shots. Taking 3 more shots a game (which would put him on the same volume as Jordan) would likely result in about the same numbers
Huh?
Jordan's clutch numbers were phenomenal
He is a very efficient shooter because he doesn't take bad shots. If he doesn't have a good shot the ball goes to someone else. Its not about volume. Its about how often the ball is in his hands. The ball is in his hands less than it is in Westbrook's.
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Durant makes a ton of difficult shots though
No fewer difficult shots than Lebron or Jordan, he's just a superior shooter. In fact, he's one of the best shooters of all time
Last edited by brahmabull117; 06-13-12 at 12:29 PM.
This is entirely subjective, there is nothing to support this theory. Just going off what was seen last night, LeBron hit tougher shots in my opinion. Either way the fact remains that Durant does not have the highest usage rate on his team.
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