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    Legion you question Justin7's ruling on my case quite often as if he didnt take the concrete facts in consideration and just ruled against EZ for whatever conspiracy you might have. Its almost like you make EZstreet to be the Apple of Nasdaq and SBR needs them up there with the rest of the banners and because EZ wouldnt pay SBR, so they ruled against them which we all know is not the truth. There is not one piece of evidence EZstreet had against me. Just because they said I played at this amount of time and at perfect play(which is not the case) does not prove that I am guilty. I dont see you bashing that inept Wilheim? That man wouldnt even let me defend myself at RX nor was already ruling against me before hearing me out. Please answer these questions, why didnt EZ show the full casino logs? Who's Wilheim's mysterious expert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cory1111 View Post
    Legion you question Justin7's ruling on my case quite often as if he didnt take the concrete facts in consideration and just ruled against EZ for whatever conspiracy you might have. Its almost like you make EZstreet to be the Apple of Nasdaq and SBR needs them up there with the rest of the banners and because EZ wouldnt pay SBR, so they ruled against them which we all know is not the truth. There is not one piece of evidence EZstreet had against me. Just because they said I played at this amount of time and at perfect play(which is not the case) does not prove that I am guilty. I dont see you bashing that inept Wilheim? That man wouldnt even let me defend myself at RX nor was already ruling against me before hearing me out. Please answer these questions, why didnt EZ show the full casino logs? Who's Wilheim's mysterious expert?
    OK im going to have to say i am questioning his ruling from my experience with them. Im not comparing them to Apple or Nasdaq we all know which books are those, but i am comparing them to the rest of the books and i have to say from my experience they have a way to low rating here at SBR for what they offer me. Also i have to side as to why would other reputable books blacklist u also? Seems your known around for what u r(since i can't say it anymore).
    Also since u brought it up why didn't EZ show the logs right, Well how the hell could J7 give his full judgement without all the evidence out there and rule against them? So it seems here he just gave his professional opinion without all the evidence also. Which leads me to say why is he so certain.
    Look Cory the 46k is alot of money and i wish bad on no one, if someone gets away with something they get away with it. But if they get caught its there fault for not being more careful. So if u have a chance of getting back your $ i wish u the best but i also will tell my story with Eaststreet which has been good.
    Also Cory they gave u an option to go get your $, go get the damn money and prove yourself then, screw what advice u got here from SBR and collect, thats what i would do in that situation screw what anyone else tells me its not there money to get me to stay away. 46k stop being so scared and go get your damn $ if your telling the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legions36 View Post
    OK im going to have to say i am questioning his ruling from my experience with them. Im not comparing them to Apple or Nasdaq we all know which books are those, but i am comparing them to the rest of the books and i have to say from my experience they have a way to low rating here at SBR for what they offer me. Also i have to side as to why would other reputable books blacklist u also? Seems your known around for what u r(since i can't say it anymore).
    Also since u brought it up why didn't EZ show the logs right, Well how the hell could J7 give his full judgement without all the evidence out there and rule against them? So it seems here he just gave his professional opinion without all the evidence also. Which leads me to say why is he so certain.
    Look Cory the 46k is alot of money and i wish bad on no one, if someone gets away with something they get away with it. But if they get caught its there fault for not being more careful. So if u have a chance of getting back your $ i wish u the best but i also will tell my story with Eaststreet which has been good.
    Also Cory they gave u an option to go get your $, go get the damn money and prove yourself then, screw what advice u got here from SBR and collect, thats what i would do in that situation screw what anyone else tells me its not there money to get me to stay away. 46k stop being so scared and go get your damn $ if your telling the truth.
    Legions you are as dumb as the day is long, of course they wanted Cory to go to Costa Rica to get his money. That way they could swindle him out of the money, eg. rig the lie detector test. They also wanted him to play close to the amount of hands per minute as he apparently did during his play. And I bet if he did meet those demands they would say "wait a second not perfect strategy no $46k"..
    This was just their excuse to legitimately get away without paying cory111. He did the right thing, who the fukk wants to fly to some third world country with a bunch of crooks to prove something which should not have needed proving in the first place.
    I would hate to think that if I ran up a huge balance at any book that they would want me to pull off some sort of song and dance and jump through hoops just to get my money. EZ Street, you are a pathetic book, disgrace.
    Does anyone truly think cory111 used a bot and circumnavigated the DGS system. no fukkin way.


    Legion, is there any book on this planet you do not recommend? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommygun View Post
    Legions you are as dumb as the day is long, of course they wanted Cory to go to Costa Rica to get his money. That way they could swindle him out of the money, eg. rig the lie detector test. They also wanted him to play close to the amount of hands per minute as he apparently did during his play. And I bet if he did meet those demands they would say "wait a second not perfect strategy no $46k"..
    This was just their excuse to legitimately get away without paying cory111. He did the right thing, who the fukk wants to fly to some third world country with a bunch of crooks to prove something which should not have needed proving in the first place.
    I would hate to think that if I ran up a huge balance at any book that they would want me to pull off some sort of song and dance and jump through hoops just to get my money. EZ Street, you are a pathetic book, disgrace.
    Does anyone truly think cory111 used a bot and circumnavigated the DGS system. no fukkin way.


    Legion, is there any book on this planet you do not recommend? Thanks
    I don't recommend Beted, they screwed me when they got busted. Only book i have been burned to this day. What books do u recommend? And im talking the ones that u play at and been threw the whole process with them, not the ones that hand u out freeplays just for signing up, or the ones that u just read about either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legions36 View Post
    I don't recommend Beted, they screwed me when they got busted. Only book i have been burned to this day. What books do u recommend? And im talking the ones that u play at and been threw the whole process with them, not the ones that hand u out freeplays just for signing up, or the ones that u just read about either.
    Beted doesn't count, now a defunct book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legions36 View Post
    I don't recommend Beted, they screwed me when they got busted. Only book i have been burned to this day. What books do u recommend? And im talking the ones that u play at and been threw the whole process with them, not the ones that hand u out freeplays just for signing up, or the ones that u just read about either.
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    Also Cory they gave u an option to go get your $, go get the damn money and prove yourself then, screw what advice u got here from SBR and collect, thats what i would do in that situation screw what anyone else tells me its not there money to get me to stay away. 46k stop being so scared and go get your damn $ if your telling the truth.[/QUOTE]


    Legion by saying what you just said( go to CR to collect and prove myself) , along with judging them by your lone experience with them shows a lot about your professionalism regarding books. We all know the lie detector and the video poker test would of been rigged in some way or fashion. EZ was the one who accused me of cheating ,not the other way around. I was willing to do a 3rd party video poker test in Vegas, EZ said no. We all know why EZ wanted me to fly to CR, and thats fine. Sure I might have enemies possibly there, but good lucky finding my enemies in the US.

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    HedgeHog, maybe you can make a video like this kid? Then when my Miami Heat win and I eventually get paid someway or somehow we can compare your videos.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjIfrQqABl0

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    Nice vid. Looks like you when EZ confiscated your 46k. "I hate EZ", "EZ doesn't pay"," EZ is D rated and blacklisted" etc...

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    I thought you would like it,it fits for you. Thats the best you can come up with HH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cory1111 View Post
    Also Cory they gave u an option to go get your $, go get the damn money and prove yourself then, screw what advice u got here from SBR and collect, thats what i would do in that situation screw what anyone else tells me its not there money to get me to stay away. 46k stop being so scared and go get your damn $ if your telling the truth.

    Legion by saying what you just said( go to CR to collect and prove myself) , along with judging them by your lone experience with them shows a lot about your professionalism regarding books. We all know the lie detector and the video poker test would of been rigged in some way or fashion. EZ was the one who accused me of cheating ,not the other way around. I was willing to do a 3rd party video poker test in Vegas, EZ said no. We all know why EZ wanted me to fly to CR, and thats fine. Sure I might have enemies possibly there, but good lucky finding my enemies in the US.[/QUOTE]
    Look if it was my $ i would be there in a heartbeat and if they try some stuff someone is getting hit. U forget u know where they are and not the other way around. I mean its not hard to find out where the building is, im sure u can figure out some ways on getting your 46k worth. I would do this provided i know im telling the truth but if i was cheating them(like maybe in this case) then i would just move on.
    Also noted im sure u can convince one of the SBR mods to meet u there so this case can be closed for good, or im sure they know someone in costa rica that would vouch for things.
    All in all gl with this i've wasted enough time on this subject and have to get back to my normal life.
    Word of advice next time u want to rack up 46k in a book keep it to 1 of the A rated books, i mean i try out alot of books and wouldn't want more than a few grand in the smaller books at a time. Just incase something goes wrong it wont be to bad of a hit and i could move on, just something i learned when i got screwed with Beted that anything can happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommygun View Post
    Beted doesn't count, now a defunct book.
    Well u ask and i told u. And yes it does count when im still owed $ from that place that i probably will never see, but there is no book that i use now that i don't like. I could recommend a few but i would be wasting my breath with u and u would think something more than what it is.

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    having you to c.r. would have been great for everyone...no rigging of anything, imo..no need to...you got extremely shitty advice and were too fukking paranoid, kid...you get a free vacation, get a chance at your money and they get publicity...your own paranoia and stupidity fukked that deal up, sorry to say...you really think with as much publicity as this earned, when it first happened, that they would totally rig everything against you rigging the lie detector? common pal...there is no rigging the lie detector...(paying off the guy in charge, perhaps, but highly unlikely) you should have looked at it this way ... you arent getting paid a single cent by not going, might as well go on vacation and take your chance at getting paid... but, like i said, you listened to complete asshats and your own paranoia completely fukked that whole deal up and now you will never get anything...it does suck, i agree...but you feel no remorse for those you have fukked over either, so it is what it is...

    as for wil, he was doing what he thought best, i guess...didnt want to disappoint the hand that feeds and taking the side of a sponsor...sbr is doing the same whoreshit for bol right now... these places do their best to not dick over their sponsors

    anyways, i dont blame you for wanting your money, but you passed up the opportunities and, like i said earlier, as long as that shop has the same name, you will never see a penny

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    Quote Originally Posted by raydog View Post
    having you to c.r. would have been great for everyone...no rigging of anything, imo..no need to...you got extremely shitty advice and were too fukking paranoid, kid...you get a free vacation, get a chance at your money and they get publicity...your own paranoia and stupidity fukked that deal up, sorry to say...you really think with as much publicity as this earned, when it first happened, that they would totally rig everything against you rigging the lie detector? common pal...there is no rigging the lie detector...(paying off the guy in charge, perhaps, but highly unlikely) you should have looked at it this way ... you arent getting paid a single cent by not going, might as well go on vacation and take your chance at getting paid... but, like i said, you listened to complete asshats and your own paranoia completely fukked that whole deal up and now you will never get anything...it does suck, i agree...but you feel no remorse for those you have fukked over either, so it is what it is...

    as for wil, he was doing what he thought best, i guess...didnt want to disappoint the hand that feeds and taking the side of a sponsor...sbr is doing the same whoreshit for bol right now... these places do their best to not dick over their sponsors

    anyways, i dont blame you for wanting your money, but you passed up the opportunities and, like i said earlier, as long as that shop has the same name, you will never see a penny
    What? As long as that shop has the same name is the only time Cory has a chance to get paid. If they change names, then he has absolutely no shot! The bad publicity won't matter if a name change occurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BranchDavidian View Post
    What? As long as that shop has the same name is the only time Cory has a chance to get paid. If they change names, then he has absolutely no shot! The bad publicity won't matter if a name change occurs.
    if its merely a name change, you are correct, he still wont see a penny... but,hypothetically, if ez were to go on the market and get bought by another book (for who the fukk knows what reason), it would be a solid gesture by a new owner to pay cory...would be great publicity, set an extremely high precedent and earn them some business as well... thats all im saying...its his only hope of seeing any money

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    Anyone who thinks Cory would have gotten paid if he'd gone to Costa Rica is either delusional or an EZ Street shill. They lied so many times in their account of his play, who knows what other lies they'd have told about his performance?

    The most obvious example is that they never proved Cory played perfect strategy. The biggest red flag is that they never released his logs. I also asked numerous times if he used the 5 penalty card exceptions (they are an added strategy that apply to very specific scenarios that only improves your EV by a small amount, so many casual players don't know them) and they never answered. If he used them it certainly wouldn't prove bot play as it's simple to look them up, but EZ Street should have been able to answer the question if they really tested his play for perfect strategy. So, if they say "Cory played perfect strategy" when he really didn't, he goes to take their test, makes a couple errors, and they use that as an excuse to not pay him.

    Or, they'd simply slow down the dealing process so he couldn't play as fast.

    The various idiots who think EZ Street is a great book have chalked up the above to some big conspiracy theory, but it isn't at all a stretch to expect them to do that after they were caught telling so many lies about Cory's play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skrtelfan View Post
    Anyone who thinks Cory would have gotten paid if he'd gone to Costa Rica is either delusional or an EZ Street shill. They lied so many times in their account of his play, who knows what other lies they'd have told about his performance?

    The most obvious example is that they never proved Cory played perfect strategy. The biggest red flag is that they never released his logs. I also asked numerous times if he used the 5 penalty card exceptions (they are an added strategy that apply to very specific scenarios that only improves your EV by a small amount, so many casual players don't know them) and they never answered. If he used them it certainly wouldn't prove bot play as it's simple to look them up, but EZ Street should have been able to answer the question if they really tested his play for perfect strategy. So, if they say "Cory played perfect strategy" when he really didn't, he goes to take their test, makes a couple errors, and they use that as an excuse to not pay him.

    Or, they'd simply slow down the dealing process so he couldn't play as fast.

    The various idiots who think EZ Street is a great book have chalked up the above to some big conspiracy theory, but it isn't at all a stretch to expect them to do that after they were caught telling so many lies about Cory's play.
    I heard through the Costa Rican grapevine that Wilhiem has admitted to friends that it was all a scam as if that was any kind of true revelation. We have invited him to do am interview with Pete on SBR.TV. Hopefully we can coordinate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skrtelfan View Post
    The various idiots who think EZ Street is a great book....
    I don't think EZ is a "great" book, but certainly a "good" one for recreational sportsbook players. Large bonuses and fast, free weekly payouts attracted me to them. The bonuses dried up so I moved on to BetIslands and other Books, but I never had any problems with them whatsoever.

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    All I can say to that is what a shocker. As much as I would love to see that interview, I doubt that will happen.

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    I agree--can't imagine him giving that interview. Doesn't he still have EZ as a sponsor?

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    wil isnt at therx anymore and ill believe sbrjohns story when i hear it from wil myself...(uh, nice rumor pal...

    skrtels... nobody here is delusional, pal ... and nobody is a shill for a mediocre book...you morons keep talking about how the place is broke, yet you think they are paying shills to dispute corys case....unfukingreal how stupid that sounds

    you have your opinion on ez and how they would have handled having cory in town, and i have mine...you obviously dont understand the benefits of him going...i believe he gets paid if he proves he wasnt cheating somehow...the software is common and even the slightest slow down or glitch can be picked up on...so i dont think they fukk with it either... there is no doubt that a red flag was raised with corys play...i think it would have been looked into and investigated by most, if not all books, before they payed out... ez just went about it the wrong way and therx was being paid to go along with it.

    regardless, the kid wont see a penny from ez now...

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    my comment stands, Legions36 recommends every book on this planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post

    Cory, the answer is none of them. It's easy. These forums are affiliates, sign up new posters, get them to gamble with their sponsors (who pay to advertise) and then the forum get's a cut of the players loss. That's how affiliates work and I know you know this part. It's very elementary and obvious. So are the advertisements. And all of that is fine. John's created this product and he has honestly done a good job with this site.

    The problem comes back to the purpose of this forum, the rating of sportsbooks. And this is where the undeniable conflict of interests enters, when this forum/site arbitrates against books. It becomes easy to assume the site would arbitrate in favor of books that advertise and likely give them higher ratings as well, hence getting more new players to sign up there. Books that do not advertise get shittier ratings and poor arbitration. It's a good ol' boys club, you scratch my back and I'll get yours.

    And it's because of this rather large and obvious conflict of interest that SBR should not be arbitrating these cases. Even if J7's motives are pure there is still a conflict of interest. The problem with all of this is that nobody is in a position to investigate the motives of SBR, therefore how can anyone trust the report? And it is not unreasonable for one to believe that the outcome has been influced by imporper consierations such as financial gain.

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    In addition to the above, there's the issue of SBR rating sportsbooks. This is the biggest joke of all. And it has become painfully obvious to anyone that's been around longer that a few years, that their ratings are extremely subjective, biased and skewed to favor books that advertise with them (ie pad their pockets). And this was supposed to be the heart and sould of SBR. They were to provide non-biased reviews of sportsbooks for players, particularly new players.

    So basically, SBR is no longer even a valid resource for the review or ratings of sportsbooks. This was John's entire plan however. Rake in money from sportsbooks. Give them good reviews/ratings. Sign up new players. Collect a cut of their losses. Two big sources of income.

    Anyways, at this point I'm being redundant and it's all obvious anyhow.
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