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    Magglio Ordonez set to retire after 15 seasons

    After finally conceding that his phone wasn't going to ring with any job offers, Magglio Ordonez is calling it a career. The 38-year-old Venezuelan plans to announce his retirement at Comerica Park in a ceremony the Tigers will hold before Sunday's game.

    The team and location make sense. Ordonez spent the final seven seasons of his 15-year career wearing the olde English "D" and the Tigers provided him a haven to pad his bank account after the Chicago White Sox refused to roll the dice on his injury-prone body after the 2004 season.

    In exchange, Ordonez turned a radical knee therapy into some great play for Jim Leyland and Co. Though he was well short of a Hall of Fame career and probably doesn't qualify for the fictional "Hall of The Very Good" either, Ordonez experienced the next best thing for a ballplayer: Making a boatload of money ($133.4 million in career earnings, according to Baseball-Reference) while posting enough memorable stats and moments to become a beloved member of Detroit Tigers history.

    During his time with the Tigers, Ordonez ...

    • ... made the All-Star team in 2006 and 2007.

    • ... won the 2007 American League batting title with a .363 average, beating Ichiro (.351) by over 10 points and becoming the first Tiger to record the honor since Norm Cash finished with the AL's top average in 1961. Ordonez placed second to A-Rod in the AL MVP voting that year.

    • ... hit two homers in the same inning in a game against Oakland on Aug. 12, 2007 and is one of only 55 players in baseball history to achieve the feat.

    • ... authored one of the most memorable moments in recent Tigers history, putting the Tigers back in the World Series for the first time in 22 years with a three-run homer that finished off a sweep of the Oakland A's in the 2006 ALCS.






    Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
    1997 23 CHW AL 21 73 69 12 22 6 0 4 11 1 2 2 8 .319 .338 .580 .918 138 40 1 0 1 0 0 9
    1998 24 CHW AL 145 578 535 70 151 25 2 14 65 9 7 28 53 .282 .326 .415 .741 94 222 19 9 2 4 1 *98 RoY-5
    1999 25 CHW AL 157 677 624 100 188 34 3 30 117 13 6 47 64 .301 .349 .510 .858 115 318 24 1 0 5 4 *9/D AS
    2000 26 CHW AL 153 665 588 102 185 34 3 32 126 18 4 60 64 .315 .371 .546 .917 127 321 28 2 0 15 3 *9 AS,MVP-12,SS
    2001 27 CHW AL 160 671 593 97 181 40 1 31 113 25 7 70 70 .305 .382 .533 .914 134 316 14 5 0 3 7 *9/D8 AS
    2002 28 CHW AL 153 654 590 116 189 47 1 38 135 7 5 53 77 .320 .381 .597 .978 154 352 21 7 0 3 2 *9/D MVP-8,SS
    2003 29 CHW AL 160 674 606 95 192 46 3 29 99 9 5 57 73 .317 .380 .546 .926 139 331 20 7 0 4 1 *9/8D AS,MVP-18
    2004 30 CHW AL 52 222 202 32 59 8 2 9 37 0 2 16 22 .292 .351 .485 .836 114 98 4 3 0 1 2 9/D
    2005 31 DET AL 82 343 305 38 92 17 0 8 46 0 0 30 35 .302 .359 .436 .795 114 133 8 1 0 7 1 9/D
    2006 32 DET AL 155 646 593 82 177 32 1 24 104 1 4 45 87 .298 .350 .477 .827 112 283 13 4 0 4 3 *9/D AS,MVP-22
    2007 33 DET AL 157 679 595 117 216 54 0 28 139 4 1 76 79 .363 .434 .595 1.029 166 354 20 2 0 5 8 *9D AS,MVP-2,SS
    2008 34 DET AL 146 623 561 72 178 32 2 21 103 1 5 53 76 .317 .376 .494 .869 127 277 27 3 0 6 2 *9D
    2009 35 DET AL 131 518 465 54 144 24 2 9 50 3 1 51 65 .310 .376 .428 .804 111 199 19 0 0 2 2 9D
    2010 36 DET AL 84 365 323 56 98 17 1 12 59 1 0 40 38 .303 .378 .474 .852 129 153 14 0 0 2 0 9D
    2011 37 DET AL 92 357 329 33 84 10 0 5 32 2 1 23 41 .255 .303 .331 .634 74 109 10 1 0 4 0 9D
    15 Yrs 1848 7745 6978 1076 2156 426 21 294 1236 94 50 651 852 .309 .369 .502 .871 125 3506 242 45 3 65 36
    162 Game Avg. 162 679 612 94 189 37 2 26 108 8 4 57 75 .309 .369 .502 .871 125 307 21 4 0 6 3



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    Magglio Ordonez was signed by the Chicago White Sox out of Venezuela in 1991. Assigned to the Dominican Summer League that year, he hit .298 in 25 games as a 17 year old. This is much too early for him to have earned a grade. In '92, Ordonez moved up to the Gulf Coast League in North America. He struggled, hitting just .180, though he did manage to hit 10 doubles in 38 games. He would have rated as a Grade C prospect at this point, showing some power potential, but a long way from being a polished player.

    The Sox moved Ordonez up to full-season Hickory in the South Atlantic League in '93, and again he struggled, hitting just .216 with a .333 SLG. He would have rated as a Grade C- prospect, toolsy with some power potential, but with no actual evidence that he would develop. His best attribute was age: he was still just 19.
    At 20, Ordonez began his breakthrough. Playing for Hickory again, he hit .294 with 11 homers, .431 SLG, 45 walks, 57 strikeouts in 490 at-bats in '94. While his walk rate wasn't spectacular, his strikeout rate was quite low for an emerging power hitter. Eddie Epstein gave Ordonez a Grade C in the first edition of the Minor League Scouting Notebook. I would likely have gone with Grade C+, given his power spike and still-young age.Moving up to the Carolina League for 1995, Ordonez slumped somewhat, hitting just .238, although he maintained nearly identical power production: 12 homers, 24 doubles compared to 11 homers and 24 doubles the previous year (in virtually the same number of games).

    His strike zone judgment remained steady as well. I did not put him in the 1996 book, but he would have rated a Grade C, coming down slightly from '94, but still showing potential.
    Ordonez was promoted to Double-A for 1996, and did quite well, hitting .263 with 41 doubles and 18 homers. His plate discipline remained steady and scouting reports were generally positive, although he wasn't rated as one of the best prospects in the league. Baseball America, for example, didn't have him on their Top 10 Southern League prospects list. I gave him a Grade C+ in my book for 1997, with the notation that "it wouldn't surprise me if he had a very good season in 1997."My intuition there worked out very well: Ordonez .329 with 29 doubles and 14 homers in Triple-A in '97. This earned him a Grade B+ going into 1998. I wrote "I don't think Ordonez is going to be a full-scale megastar, but he should have a very rewarding career." Ordonez played 145 games for the White Sox in '98, hit .282/.326/.415, decent numbers, then broke out in 1999 as a 25-year-old, hitting .301/.349/.510 with 30 homers.He ended up playing 1848 major league games, hitting .309/.369/.502 in 7745 plate appearances, with 294 homers, 651 walks, 852 strikeouts, and a 125 OPS+. A six-time All-Star, his list of comparable players (according to Sim Score) contains several borderline Hall of Famers: Moises Alou, Chuck Klein (HOF), Paul O'Neill, Carlos Lee, Bob Johnson, Will Clark, Brian Giles, Dante Bichette, Del Ennis, and Fred Lynn.Using the more sophisticated WAR metric, Ordonez posted a 39.6 career WAR, putting him in the "Hall of the Very Good Outfielders" neighborhood with Wally Moses (40.9), Gavvy Cravath (40.2), Carl Furillo (39.7), Kirk Gibson (39.5), Ginger Beaumont (39.5), Rico Carty (39.4), and Tommy Holmes (38.9). In other words, Magglio wasn't a megastar, but he had a very rewarding career.

    Ordonez is a good example of a tools player who developed the skills to make those tools meaningful. While his minor league production was not spectacular or even significantly above-average until he reached Triple-A, he always showed a low strikeout rate, an adequate number of walks, and a good number of doubles.

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    I loved Mags, vastly underrated.
    I also loved Mags because he put a boatload of money in my pocket as a fantasy outfielder.
    Every time I seemed to start him, he's homer.

    Nice career Mags, job well done.

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    Very good hitter,

    Hit .300 nearly every season

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    you are absolutely correct. solid player and always a threat at the plate. I would always stockpile him in fantasy baseball on the cheap. Steady as a metronome...and tended to be a sleeper bc people would go for the big names of a particular year

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooms79 View Post
    you are absolutely correct. solid player and always a threat at the plate. I would always stockpile him in fantasy baseball on the cheap. Steady as a metronome...and tended to be a sleeper bc people would go for the big names of a particular year
    He got me 500 bucks once as a minimum priced (salary) OF/DH

    I remember one game I got Mags dirt cheap, allowed me cap room for A-Rod (5 years ago A-Rod) Mags hit two out, A-Rod hit 2 out with 8 RBI.......

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