1. 05-30-12 03:08 PM #36
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    p69 , you are waaaayyyy off base here - frankly I'm surprised
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  2. 05-30-12 03:09 PM #37
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    i just said bellagio

    also i'm pretty sure wynn, venetian, and every other casino that allows surrender (usually on 6-deck games) allow you to surrender vs an ace after checking blackjack.

    you said you could guarantee this fact that you couldn't surrender against an ace, call bellagio if you have to
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  3. 05-30-12 03:10 PM #38
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    Well I can say that it is usually a VERY BAD move in a live casino operation. You are giving up $50 on a $100 bet when the dealer could bust and you would get $200.


    Even when the dealer has a 10, you should let him take the chance to bust.


    But on internet casinos where the dealer gets 20 five times more often, it might be a good option. But I would use it all of the time versus an ace with 15 or 16 even in a live casino situation
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  4. 05-30-12 03:12 PM #39
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    http://wizardofvegas.com/guides/blackjack-survey/

    every casino on this list with a "yes" for surrender allows surrender vs any card (including ace) if the dealer has no blackjack, read the bottom
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  5. 05-30-12 03:12 PM #40
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    I usually only play single or 2 deck blackjack. Maybe that is the difference in the casinos where I attend. But I wasnt talking about Vegas casinos anyway. Maybe casinos in Louisiana or Biloxi have different rules
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  6. 05-30-12 03:13 PM #41
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    nothing worse than ignorance arguing against a fact - maybe it is my older age but I'm tired of trying to help people on gambling forums
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  7. 05-30-12 03:14 PM #42
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    good article about when the equity in your $100 bet is worth less than $50 po69. yes the dealer could bust but 1) you're probably going to bust first and 2) they won't bust enough to the point where the chance of making $200 is worth throwing away another $50 most of the time

    http://www.blackjackclassroom.com/ar...nder-strategy/
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  8. 05-30-12 03:17 PM #43
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    I see that I need to study that chart before i play blackjack in vegas. Usually I only play poker and when I have played blackjack on the strip, never worried about the surrender anyway.


    But I can why the casinos in Louisiana and Biloxi dont offer the surrender option.


    Can you surrender in the single deck game here at sbr? I could have sworn that i didnt see it the other day.


    I dont want to waste any points trying to find out either
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  9. 05-30-12 03:19 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    nothing worse than ignorance arguing against a fact - maybe it is my older age but I'm tired of trying to help people on gambling forums
    yeah i run into people all the time that play tons of blackjack and when i explain to them how the dealer hitting on soft 17 is a disadvantage they just give me blank stares as if it makes no difference. or some of them actually think that's better for the player than the dealer staying on soft 17.
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  10. 05-30-12 03:20 PM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by playersonly69 View Post
    I see that I need to study that chart before i play blackjack in vegas. Usually I only play poker and when I have played blackjack on the strip, never worried about the surrender anyway.


    But I can why the casinos in Louisiana and Biloxi dont offer the surrender option.


    Can you surrender in the single deck game here at sbr? I could have sworn that i didnt see it the other day.


    I dont want to waste any points trying to find out either
    if you surrender then you only have to waste 1/2 of a point.
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  11. 05-30-12 03:20 PM #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by playersonly69 View Post
    I see that I need to study that chart before i play blackjack in vegas. Usually I only play poker and when I have played blackjack on the strip, never worried about the surrender anyway.


    But I can why the casinos in Louisiana and Biloxi dont offer the surrender option.


    Can you surrender in the single deck game here at sbr? I could have sworn that i didnt see it the other day.


    I dont want to waste any points trying to find out either
    yes you can surrender here in the single deck game

    but blackjack only pays 6/5, so i wouldn't play that game
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  12. 05-30-12 03:22 PM #47
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    Well I dont play the sbr casino anyway or any internet casino.


    But I do play single deck (2 deck) blackjack pitch. Easier to count the cards so that is why i prefer it in a live casino
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  13. 05-30-12 03:43 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    Hit on 15 and 16 0 times with 0 surrenders with the 12 k in pts ive won in the last week at bj
    you haven't won close to 12k points playing bj. according to your badges in the last week you won 1075
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  14. 05-30-12 05:07 PM #49
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    lmao, more lies

    Quote Originally Posted by playersonly69 View Post
    Well I dont play the sbr casino anyway or any internet casino.


    But I do play single deck (2 deck) blackjack pitch. Easier to count the cards so that is why i prefer it in a live casino
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  15. 05-30-12 05:08 PM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeSSt View Post
    you haven't won close to 12k points playing bj. according to your badges in the last week you won 1075
    maybe you need to look again,
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  16. 05-30-12 05:11 PM #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    maybe you need to look again,
    looked again and yup, 5/23 top CASINO winner with 1075 points. chris, are you to fat and stupid to know the difference between the CASINO and SPORTSBOOK?
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  17. 05-30-12 05:22 PM #52
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    lol i make 1 5 pt parlay bet a day, haven't hit any, they count that as sbr sportsbook now slapnut. Wow u are black heh

    1 hand in honor of u
    18:24:04
    Player Hand 1 12 A♦ A♠ 50.00 50.00
    Player Hand 2 15 Q♥ 4♦ A♠ Hit, Stand 50.00 50.00
    Player Hand 3 17 7♣ Q♣ Stand 50.00 50.00
    Player Hand 4 18 A♣ 7♠ Split 50.00 50.00
    Dealer Hand 25 8♣ 7♣ K♠ Hit, Bust
    		200.00 200.00
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  18. 05-30-12 05:26 PM #53
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    http://www.blackjackclassroom.com/ar...nder-strategy/[/QUOTE]

    Nice article!
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  19. 05-30-12 05:27 PM #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    lol i make 1 5 pt parlay bet a day, haven't hit any, they count that as sbr sportsbook now slapnut. Wow u are black heh

    1 hand in honor of u
    <nobr title="2012-05-30T18:24:04.070">18:24:04</nobr>
    <nobr>Player Hand 1</nobr> <nobr>12</nobr> <nobr title="Ad As">A♦ A♠</nobr> <nobr title=""></nobr> <nobr title="50.00">50.00</nobr> <nobr title="50.00">50.00</nobr>
    <nobr>Player Hand 2</nobr> <nobr>15</nobr> <nobr title="Qh 4d As">Q♥ 4♦ A♠</nobr> <nobr title="Hit, Stand">Hit, Stand</nobr> <nobr title="50.00">50.00</nobr> <nobr title="50.00">50.00</nobr>
    <nobr>Player Hand 3</nobr> <nobr>17</nobr> <nobr title="7c Qc">7♣ Q♣</nobr> <nobr title="Stand">Stand</nobr> <nobr title="50.00">50.00</nobr> <nobr title="50.00">50.00</nobr>
    <nobr>Player Hand 4</nobr> <nobr>18</nobr> <nobr title="Ac 7s">A♣ 7♠</nobr> <nobr title="Split">Split</nobr> <nobr title="50.00">50.00</nobr> <nobr title="50.00">50.00</nobr>
    <nobr>Dealer Hand</nobr> <nobr>25</nobr> <nobr title="8c 7c Ks">8♣ 7♣ K♠</nobr> <nobr title="Hit, Bust">Hit, Bust</nobr>
    		<nobr title="200.00">200.00</nobr> <nobr title="200.00">200.00</nobr>
    you really think that sbr makes 2 different badges and has no rhyme or reason for handing them out? you are a fukkin moron

    edit: and whats your point about the above? i did this in about 5 minutes yesterday

    CASINO Blackjack Single Deck
    CasinoGame    		 290.00 05/29/2012 09:26 AM
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  20. 05-30-12 05:41 PM #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by playersonly69 View Post
    What live casino allows a surrender versus a dealer??
    Ellis Island has in the past. I will see if they still do next week when I pay them a visit.
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  21. 05-30-12 05:46 PM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by playersonly69 View Post
    Well I can say that it is usually a VERY BAD move in a live casino operation. You are giving up $50 on a $100 bet when the dealer could bust and you would get $200.


    Even when the dealer has a 10, you should let him take the chance to bust.


    Math be tricky!
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