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  • vitterd
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    • 09-14-17
    • 58460

    #456
    Originally posted by grease lightnin
    Brooks how come you say everyone is a liar but you?


    trends
    That’s what he does. Same crap all the time from him....I buried a hole....put leaves on top and waited for him to fall in. Now he’s welching. Guy is a scumbag liar
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    • brooks85
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      • 01-05-09
      • 44709

      #457
      ^lol not looking good for you grease. Birds of a feather...


      Originally posted by grease lightnin
      Brooks how come you say everyone is a liar but you?


      trends
      I don't, notice how you just got caught lying again.
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      • grease lightnin
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-01-12
        • 16015

        #458
        Originally posted by brooks85
        state =/= rule


        go back to third grade you idiot


        again,

        the facts










        no collusion charges by mueller is a W for me.



        That is absolutely incorrect. There is no way to charge someone for collusion. If they colluded and it can be proven, the charge will be treason or something like that.


        Bottom line is, if Mueller doesn’t publicly state that there was no collusion with Russia, you lose.

        Get my 20k ready pigboy.
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        • brooks85
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          • 01-05-09
          • 44709

          #459
          Originally posted by grease lightnin
          That is absolutely incorrect. There is no way to charge someone for collusion. If they colluded and it can be proven, the charge will be treason or something like that.


          Bottom line is, if Mueller doesn’t publicly state that there was no collusion with Russia, you lose.

          Get my 20k ready pigboy.
          ?? lol what do you think you've said here?

          treason would be a collusion charge in the case you moron. You're coming off very stupid.


          again learn to read and go back to third grade.


          no where did we bet on what mueller's public opinion is. Only his legal ruling. Fact.


          If you welch on bet I will contact mods since that is a ban worthy offense.







          Originally posted by grease lightnin



          Yes, I will bet all you want that:

          Mueller and Co. will not conclude beyond a shadow of doubt that there was no collusion with Russia.


          Originally posted by brooks85

          Bet is on, mueller will rule this is not collusion and there will be no charges.



          How much do you want to lose?
          Originally posted by grease lightnin



          Sure I will take it for the max.

          There have already been two indictments you ignoramus.


          no where did I say anything about mueller's public statements. His ruling's are all the matter.
          Last edited by brooks85; 12-23-17, 01:19 PM.
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          • RudyRuetigger
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            • 08-24-10
            • 65084

            #460
            man you guys are still going??

            RELAX
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            • grease lightnin
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              • 10-01-12
              • 16015

              #461
              Originally posted by brooks85
              ?? lol what do you think you've said here?

              treason would be a collusion charge in the case you moron. You're coming off very stupid.


              again learn to read and go back to third grade.


              no where did we bet on what mueller's public opinion is. Only his legal ruling. Fact.


              If you welch on bet I will contact mods since that is a ban worthy offense.

              There is no such thing a “collusion charge”.

              Mueller is not a judge in this case, dummy. He doesn’t rule. Closest thing to that is him publicly stating at the end of their investigation that there was no collusion with Russia.

              If it doesn’t happen, you pay. Simple as that.m
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              • brooks85
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                • 01-05-09
                • 44709

                #462
                Originally posted by grease lightnin
                There is no such thing a “collusion charge”.

                Mueller is not a judge in this case, dummy. He doesn’t rule. Closest thing to that is him publicly stating at the end of their investigation that there was no collusion with Russia.

                If it doesn’t happen, you pay. Simple as that.m

                no one said there was. Focus and try to keep up.

                didn't say he was a judge you idiot. Again keep up and try actually reading the legal process that is going on.


                you're the same idiot who ADMITTED he said he knew something that he did not even read. You do this over and over.
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                • grease lightnin
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                  • 10-01-12
                  • 16015

                  #463
                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                  man you guys are still going??

                  RELAX


                  The fukker will owe me 20k bet points soon and he is trying to welch like the pos he is.
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                  • grease lightnin
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                    • 10-01-12
                    • 16015

                    #464
                    Originally posted by brooks85
                    no one said there was. Focus and try to keep up.



                    Brooks when I win, you pay. Simple as that dumbfukk.

                    Get my 20k ready bitch
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                    • brooks85
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-05-09
                      • 44709

                      #465
                      Originally posted by grease lightnin
                      Brooks when I win, you pay. Simple as that dumbfukk.

                      Get my 20k ready bitch
                      and when I win, you pay.

                      Very simple.

                      already caught you ADMITTING to being a weasel once involving this bet, and just caught you doing it again.


                      Originally posted by grease lightnin
                      No it was not specifically detailed.

                      I’ll give you the “AND”.

                      Worst case I push. Your mistake dumbfukk.

                      first time grease was proving what a lying pos he is and then admitting he was caught.

                      Then he tried to weasel for a push and now he thinks he has a W lol
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                      • grease lightnin
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                        • 10-01-12
                        • 16015

                        #466
                        Originally posted by brooks85
                        and when I win, you pay.

                        Very simple.

                        already caught you ADMITTING to being a weasel once involving this bet, and just caught you doing it again.


                        You have never caught anyone doing shit. Best case scenario, you figured out what your retarded ass misunderstood.

                        Done with this for today.

                        Mark my words, when I win, you better pay me.
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                        • brooks85
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                          • 01-05-09
                          • 44709

                          #467
                          well good thing post history can prove you're a liar. And when I win and there are no charges coming from mueller you can pay me. Even you admitted you were wrong and tried at best for a push.

                          Mods will see the evidence.


                          Originally posted by grease lightnin
                          No it was not specifically detailed.

                          I’ll give you the “AND”.

                          Worst case I push. Your mistake dumbfukk.

                          first time grease was proving what a lying pos he is and then admitting he was caught.

                          Then he tried to weasel for a push and now he thinks he has a W lol
                          Last edited by brooks85; 12-23-17, 01:29 PM.
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                          • grease lightnin
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                            • 10-01-12
                            • 16015

                            #468
                            Originally posted by brooks85
                            well good thing post history can prove you're a liar. And when I win and there are no charges by mueller you can pay me. Even you admitted you were wrong and tried at best for a push.

                            Mods will see the evidence.





                            first time grease was proving what a lying pos he is and then admitting he was caught.

                            Then he tried to weasel for a push and now he thinks he has a W lol


                            Yea get the mods involved. You need help with your reading comprehension
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                            • brooks85
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                              • 01-05-09
                              • 44709

                              #469
                              Originally posted by grease lightnin
                              Yea get the mods involved. You need help with your reading comprehension
                              I will if you don't pay, even your own posts admit you tried to weasel out of bet then admitted you were wrong then admitted at best you're hoping for a push.

                              see what happens when you go through life like an emotional child grease?
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                              • grease lightnin
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                                • 10-01-12
                                • 16015

                                #470
                                Originally posted by brooks85
                                I will if you don't pay, even your own posts admit you tried to weasel out of bet then admitted you were wrong then admitted at best you're hoping for a push.

                                see what happens when you go through life like an emotional child grease?

                                Yep, we’ll get mods involved when the time comes because you can’t read.
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                                • brooks85
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                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 44709

                                  #471
                                  lol I can read you're full of shit




                                  Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                  No it was not specifically detailed.

                                  I’ll give you the “AND”.

                                  Worst case I push. Your mistake dumbfukk.














                                  Originally posted by grease lightnin



                                  Yes, I will bet all you want that:

                                  Mueller and Co. will not conclude beyond a shadow of doubt that there was no collusion with Russia.


                                  Originally posted by brooks85

                                  Bet is on, mueller will rule this is not collusion and there will be no charges.



                                  How much do you want to lose?
                                  Originally posted by grease lightnin



                                  Sure I will take it for the max.

                                  There have already been two indictments you ignoramus.
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                                  • RoyBacon
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                                    • 09-21-05
                                    • 37074

                                    #472
                                    Originally posted by DABOOK
                                    And I am showing you that Republican voting states take more than they put in. By percentage there is More Food stamps and government assistance found in Red States than blue. Calling Soros self made makes me a Soros lover ? Hating Trump makes me democrat ? Wow. These are very close minded ways of thinking. I get why you fell for Trump's BS. You don’t know any better. Life is not always black and white. Read more about the history of Trump. Most of you don’t know much about him.
                                    “ The Apprentice “ was fake. He was not a good businessman. He is not charitable. He is not intelligent. He is rich. He got it from His Daddy.

                                    http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/28/d...ms-511034.html
                                    Dude I'm not even clicking on newsweek lol. The far left media loved Hilary but it's over and America elected Trump.

                                    Was Obama a good businessman? Oh wait, he never had a business.

                                    It's not that Americans are closed minded. You had one candidate that has ideas on how to make the country great and one candidate that thought we should do nothing and accept things how they are. The rest of your argument is just noise. One could list just as many negatives about Hilary.
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                                    • guitarjosh
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                                      • 12-25-07
                                      • 5784

                                      #473
                                      Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                      Way to keep fighting.


                                      Two points:

                                      1. Right after the data you copied and pasted:


                                      2. Even if one can say that this period experienced more growth than others it is due to the fact that the US was an EMERGING ECONOMY in the early growth stages.

                                      It had nothing to do with the absence of an income tax.


                                      From the same page:


                                      Fighting against what, a source that says that the growth rate from 1931-1940 during the Great Depression (1.54) was greater than the Roaring 20s (1.27) and 1911-1920 (1.28) despite all the WWI spending? You claiming that guy proves you're right?

                                      Where we are in terms of economic development has little to do with economic growth. Singapore is much more advanced than China, yet they have much stronger QoQ growth than most places around the globe, including China. There won't be a 100% agreed upon method to calculate GDP, GNP, etc, from back then but most credible sources agree that growth back then was stronger than now. All economies back then were emerging yet despite multiple wars, including a civil war, fought on our soil, America had a stronger economy and higher standard of living for their citizens than did the countries in Europe and Asia. Those European nations had vast networks of colonies and resources to exploit, yet they had less economic growth. The 2 largest empires in history were in that period, the UK and Russia, and they didn't see our growth, nor did Brazil, which has numerous natural resources and a more favorable climate. Finally, the blogger you're using has an admitted Keynesian bias and sees things through that lens.
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                                      • grease lightnin
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                                        • 10-01-12
                                        • 16015

                                        #474
                                        Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                        Fighting against what, a source that says that the growth rate from 1931-1940 during the Great Depression (1.54) was greater than the Roaring 20s (1.27) and 1911-1920 (1.28) despite all the WWI spending? You claiming that guy proves you're right?

                                        Where we are in terms of economic development has little to do with economic growth. Singapore is much more advanced than China, yet they have much stronger QoQ growth than most places around the globe, including China. There won't be a 100% agreed upon method to calculate GDP, GNP, etc, from back then but most credible sources agree that growth back then was stronger than now. All economies back then were emerging yet despite multiple wars, including a civil war, fought on our soil, America had a stronger economy and higher standard of living for their citizens than did the countries in Europe and Asia. Those European nations had vast networks of colonies and resources to exploit, yet they had less economic growth. The 2 largest empires in history were in that period, the UK and Russia, and they didn't see our growth, nor did Brazil, which has numerous natural resources and a more favorable climate. Finally, the blogger you're using has an admitted Keynesian bias and sees things through that lens.


                                        I cant believe you are trying to compare the economy in the 1800’s to now.

                                        Let me guess, you love Rothbard?
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                                        • guitarjosh
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                                          • 12-25-07
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                                          #475
                                          Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                          I cant believe you are trying to compare the economy in the 1800’s to now.

                                          Let me guess, you love Rothbard?
                                          Why? Your side constantly makes that comparison, claiming that is the standard of living we would have if we cut taxes, spending, and regulation, compares the 1920s and 30s to today, compares Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Iceland to America yet says comparing the US to Singapore, Hong Kong, Ireland, Switzerland shouldn't be done.

                                          I don't think I've ever read Rothbard, although I've read stuff from his acolytes. Most of the economic books I've read come from Nobel Prize winners like Friedman, Hayek, Stigler, Buchanan, Becker, and the son of one, David Friedman. I try to keep up with more contemporary winners like Shiller and Thaler.
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                                          • grease lightnin
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                                            • 10-01-12
                                            • 16015

                                            #476
                                            Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                            Why? Your side constantly makes that comparison, claiming that is the standard of living we would have if we cut taxes, spending, and regulation, compares the 1920s and 30s to today, compares Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Iceland to America yet says comparing the US to Singapore, Hong Kong, Ireland, Switzerland shouldn't be done.

                                            I don't think I've ever read Rothbard, although I've read stuff from his acolytes. Most of the economic books I've read come from Nobel Prize winners like Friedman, Hayek, Stigler, Buchanan, Becker, and the son of one, David Friedman. I try to keep up with more contemporary winners like Shiller and Thaler.


                                            You read all that for business or pleasure?

                                            I don’t disagree that the economy would be better off with no income tax. It is tough to say.

                                            The govt puts it back into the economy albeit inefficiently. However, wealthy people hoard where the poor and middle class spend, so who knows.

                                            I just thought it was it was silly to compare the 1800’s to now.
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                                            • maggiethebestdog
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                                              • 12-21-13
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                                              #477
                                              The only interesting thing in this thread is the 20k point bet. I am confused. Mueller has to come out and say that Trump did nothing wrong???? I can tell you that would never happen in any circumstance.
                                              He is only there to investigate and bring charges if warranted. He is not there to exhonerate anyone. If Brooks made that bet it is a loser. The only vindication possible for Trump is that no charges will be filed against him.
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                                              • grease lightnin
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                                                • 10-01-12
                                                • 16015

                                                #478
                                                Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                The only interesting thing in this thread is the 20k point bet. I am confused. Mueller has to come out and say that Trump did nothing wrong???? I can tell you that would never happen in any circumstance.
                                                He is only there to investigate and bring charges if warranted. He is not there to exhonerate anyone. If Brooks made that bet it is a loser. The only vindication possible for Trump is that no charges will be filed against him.

                                                Exactly.
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                                                • guitarjosh
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                                                  • 12-25-07
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                                                  #479
                                                  Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                  You read all that for business or pleasure?

                                                  I don’t disagree that the economy would be better off with no income tax. It is tough to say.

                                                  The govt puts it back into the economy albeit inefficiently. However, wealthy people hoard where the poor and middle class spend, so who knows.

                                                  I just thought it was it was silly to compare the 1800’s to now.
                                                  Pleasure, although it's been over the course of years. I guess I need to add Sowell to that list.

                                                  The wealthy don't hoard at all, at worst they leave it in a bank, where it gets loaned out for houses, cars, business, etc. The wealthy putting that in the banks means that interest rates would be lower, especially without the Fed setting rates.

                                                  Why is it silly? We see numerous examples of smaller government causing a rapid rise in the standard of living of the average person contemporaneously. Look at India and the standard of living increase the average people have seen since they've moved away from the Fabian socialist policies of the Nehru-Gandhi family and Congress party and more towards economic freedom championed by Vajpayee, Modi, and the BJP party. Even Manmohan Singh and Narasimha Rao, who were part of the Congress party, recognized that those policies had taken India to the brink of ruin and moved away from them in the early 90s.
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                                                  • chico2663
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                                                    • 09-02-10
                                                    • 36915

                                                    #480
                                                    Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                    Brooks when I win, you pay. Simple as that dumbfukk.

                                                    Get my 20k ready bitch
                                                    who is really the dumb one? The guy named brooks 85 who has welched many a time .or the guy who expected the welcher to change ?
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                                                    • Plaza23
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                                                      • 12-29-13
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                                                      #481
                                                      Just got a $15,000 raise from my company on friday! Thank you TRUMP!
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                                                      • chico2663
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                                                        • 09-02-10
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                                                        #482
                                                        Originally posted by Plaza23
                                                        Just got a $15,000 raise from my company on friday! Thank you TRUMP!
                                                        good thing it had nothing to do with your hard work and due diligence.
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                                                        • Plaza23
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                                                          #483
                                                          Originally posted by chico2663
                                                          good thing it had nothing to do with your hard work and due diligence.
                                                          It didn't. I didn't work any harder this year than last year. But the corporate tax rate dropping has allowed my company to give those $$$$ to it's employees, rather than to the govt.
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                                                          • King Mayan
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                                                            • 09-22-10
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                                                            #484
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                                                            • chico2663
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                                                              • 09-02-10
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                                                              #485
                                                              i always was self employed or if not had commission only contract. I had many managers tell me I made more than them. I always said I worked harder. good for you man
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                                                              • grease lightnin
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                                                                • 10-01-12
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                                                                #486
                                                                Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                who is really the dumb one? The guy named brooks 85 who has welched many a time .or the guy who expected the welcher to change ?

                                                                I had no idea he was a welcher. Lost the only two bets i made with him and promptly paid.

                                                                Didn’t expect anything different from him
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                                                                • grease lightnin
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                                                                  • 10-01-12
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                                                                  #487
                                                                  Originally posted by Plaza23
                                                                  Just got a $15,000 raise from my company on friday! Thank you TRUMP!
                                                                  Sure you did.
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                                                                  • vitterd
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                                                                    • 09-14-17
                                                                    • 58460

                                                                    #488
                                                                    Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                    good thing it had nothing to do with your hard work and due diligence.
                                                                    Lol
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                                                                    • grease lightnin
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                                                                      • 10-01-12
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                                                                      #489
                                                                      Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                                      Pleasure, although it's been over the course of years. I guess I need to add Sowell to that list.

                                                                      The wealthy don't hoard at all, at worst they leave it in a bank, where it gets loaned out for houses, cars, business, etc. The wealthy putting that in the banks means that interest rates would be lower, especially without the Fed setting rates.

                                                                      Why is it silly? We see numerous examples of smaller government causing a rapid rise in the standard of living of the average person contemporaneously. Look at India and the standard of living increase the average people have seen since they've moved away from the Fabian socialist policies of the Nehru-Gandhi family and Congress party and more towards economic freedom championed by Vajpayee, Modi, and the BJP party. Even Manmohan Singh and Narasimha Rao, who were part of the Congress party, recognized that those policies had taken India to the brink of ruin and moved away from them in the early 90s.

                                                                      Banks aren’t short of money to loan for mortgages. They are all guaranteed by the govt.

                                                                      India is totally different from the US, dude. This is getting silly.
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                                                                      • guitarjosh
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                                                                        • 12-25-07
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                                                                        #490
                                                                        Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                                        Banks aren’t short of money to loan for mortgages. They are all guaranteed by the govt.

                                                                        India is totally different from the US, dude. This is getting silly.
                                                                        Yeah, the Fed still is blowing bubbles. If not for the Fed and central planners, putting money in the bank is a good thing.

                                                                        So we can't compare America to other countries or more than America from what, 4 decades earlier? Anything else and we honestly have no clue what will happen if we adopt the same policies? Hong Kong and Singapore adopts very free market policies and goes from 3rd world to 1st world in 30 years, but if America adopts the same policies there's an equal chance we'll go from 1st world to 3rd in 30 years? You're right, this is getting silly.
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