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That is absolutely incorrect. There is no way to charge someone for collusion. If they colluded and it can be proven, the charge will be treason or something like that.
Bottom line is, if Mueller doesn’t publicly state that there was no collusion with Russia, you lose.
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?? lol what do you think you've said here?
treason would be a collusion charge in the case you moron. You're coming off very stupid.
again learn to read and go back to third grade.
no where did we bet on what mueller's public opinion is. Only his legal ruling. Fact.
If you welch on bet I will contact mods since that is a ban worthy offense.
no where did I say anything about mueller's public statements. His ruling's are all the matter.Last edited by brooks85; 12-23-17, 01:19 PM.Comment -
man you guys are still going??
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There is no such thing a “collusion charge”.
Mueller is not a judge in this case, dummy. He doesn’t rule. Closest thing to that is him publicly stating at the end of their investigation that there was no collusion with Russia.
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no one said there was. Focus and try to keep up.
didn't say he was a judge you idiot. Again keep up and try actually reading the legal process that is going on.
you're the same idiot who ADMITTED he said he knew something that he did not even read. You do this over and over.Comment -
and when I win, you pay.
Very simple.
already caught you ADMITTING to being a weasel once involving this bet, and just caught you doing it again.
first time grease was proving what a lying pos he is and then admitting he was caught.
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well good thing post history can prove you're a liar. And when I win and there are no charges coming from mueller you can pay me. Even you admitted you were wrong and tried at best for a push.
Mods will see the evidence.
first time grease was proving what a lying pos he is and then admitting he was caught.
Then he tried to weasel for a push and now he thinks he has a W lolLast edited by brooks85; 12-23-17, 01:29 PM.Comment -
Dude I'm not even clicking on newsweek lol. The far left media loved Hilary but it's over and America elected Trump.
Was Obama a good businessman? Oh wait, he never had a business.
It's not that Americans are closed minded. You had one candidate that has ideas on how to make the country great and one candidate that thought we should do nothing and accept things how they are. The rest of your argument is just noise. One could list just as many negatives about Hilary.Comment -
Fighting against what, a source that says that the growth rate from 1931-1940 during the Great Depression (1.54) was greater than the Roaring 20s (1.27) and 1911-1920 (1.28) despite all the WWI spending? You claiming that guy proves you're right?Way to keep fighting.
Two points:
1. Right after the data you copied and pasted:
2. Even if one can say that this period experienced more growth than others it is due to the fact that the US was an EMERGING ECONOMY in the early growth stages.
It had nothing to do with the absence of an income tax.
From the same page:
Where we are in terms of economic development has little to do with economic growth. Singapore is much more advanced than China, yet they have much stronger QoQ growth than most places around the globe, including China. There won't be a 100% agreed upon method to calculate GDP, GNP, etc, from back then but most credible sources agree that growth back then was stronger than now. All economies back then were emerging yet despite multiple wars, including a civil war, fought on our soil, America had a stronger economy and higher standard of living for their citizens than did the countries in Europe and Asia. Those European nations had vast networks of colonies and resources to exploit, yet they had less economic growth. The 2 largest empires in history were in that period, the UK and Russia, and they didn't see our growth, nor did Brazil, which has numerous natural resources and a more favorable climate. Finally, the blogger you're using has an admitted Keynesian bias and sees things through that lens.Comment -
Fighting against what, a source that says that the growth rate from 1931-1940 during the Great Depression (1.54) was greater than the Roaring 20s (1.27) and 1911-1920 (1.28) despite all the WWI spending? You claiming that guy proves you're right?
Where we are in terms of economic development has little to do with economic growth. Singapore is much more advanced than China, yet they have much stronger QoQ growth than most places around the globe, including China. There won't be a 100% agreed upon method to calculate GDP, GNP, etc, from back then but most credible sources agree that growth back then was stronger than now. All economies back then were emerging yet despite multiple wars, including a civil war, fought on our soil, America had a stronger economy and higher standard of living for their citizens than did the countries in Europe and Asia. Those European nations had vast networks of colonies and resources to exploit, yet they had less economic growth. The 2 largest empires in history were in that period, the UK and Russia, and they didn't see our growth, nor did Brazil, which has numerous natural resources and a more favorable climate. Finally, the blogger you're using has an admitted Keynesian bias and sees things through that lens.
I cant believe you are trying to compare the economy in the 1800’s to now.
Let me guess, you love Rothbard?
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Why? Your side constantly makes that comparison, claiming that is the standard of living we would have if we cut taxes, spending, and regulation, compares the 1920s and 30s to today, compares Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Iceland to America yet says comparing the US to Singapore, Hong Kong, Ireland, Switzerland shouldn't be done.
I don't think I've ever read Rothbard, although I've read stuff from his acolytes. Most of the economic books I've read come from Nobel Prize winners like Friedman, Hayek, Stigler, Buchanan, Becker, and the son of one, David Friedman. I try to keep up with more contemporary winners like Shiller and Thaler.Comment -
You read all that for business or pleasure?
I don’t disagree that the economy would be better off with no income tax. It is tough to say.
The govt puts it back into the economy albeit inefficiently. However, wealthy people hoard where the poor and middle class spend, so who knows.
I just thought it was it was silly to compare the 1800’s to now.Comment -
The only interesting thing in this thread is the 20k point bet. I am confused. Mueller has to come out and say that Trump did nothing wrong???? I can tell you that would never happen in any circumstance.
He is only there to investigate and bring charges if warranted. He is not there to exhonerate anyone. If Brooks made that bet it is a loser. The only vindication possible for Trump is that no charges will be filed against him.Comment -
Pleasure, although it's been over the course of years. I guess I need to add Sowell to that list.
The wealthy don't hoard at all, at worst they leave it in a bank, where it gets loaned out for houses, cars, business, etc. The wealthy putting that in the banks means that interest rates would be lower, especially without the Fed setting rates.
Why is it silly? We see numerous examples of smaller government causing a rapid rise in the standard of living of the average person contemporaneously. Look at India and the standard of living increase the average people have seen since they've moved away from the Fabian socialist policies of the Nehru-Gandhi family and Congress party and more towards economic freedom championed by Vajpayee, Modi, and the BJP party. Even Manmohan Singh and Narasimha Rao, who were part of the Congress party, recognized that those policies had taken India to the brink of ruin and moved away from them in the early 90s.Comment -
Just got a $15,000 raise from my company on friday! Thank you TRUMP!Comment -
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i always was self employed or if not had commission only contract. I had many managers tell me I made more than them. I always said I worked harder. good for you manComment -
Yeah, the Fed still is blowing bubbles. If not for the Fed and central planners, putting money in the bank is a good thing.
So we can't compare America to other countries or more than America from what, 4 decades earlier? Anything else and we honestly have no clue what will happen if we adopt the same policies? Hong Kong and Singapore adopts very free market policies and goes from 3rd world to 1st world in 30 years, but if America adopts the same policies there's an equal chance we'll go from 1st world to 3rd in 30 years? You're right, this is getting silly.Comment
