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  • khicks26
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    • 09-16-06
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    #176
    I would like anyone who reads the page before this one to notice that when asked to give views from history. Corn Cob Boy & Blow Shea could come up with nothing but silence or personal insults.

    These clowns are terrified to give personal views because they will be laughed at & ridiculed.
    Last edited by khicks26; 12-22-17, 01:25 PM.
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    • rkelly110
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      • 10-05-09
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      #177
      Originally posted by khicks26
      Are you not agreeing to return when the crash happens Roy, because you know its going to happen?


      Roy, as an avid Fox news watcher, knows the economy will tank. The gold and silver commercial, that only plays on fox
      says, the economy will tank (fear mongering to sell something) and you need to buy an IRA that contains gold and silver.

      Roy has said he has bought gold, silver and bitcoin (just in case).
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      • brooks85
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        • 01-05-09
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        #178
        ^lol rkelly's clown show never gets old
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        • DABOOK
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          • 03-02-11
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          #179
          Will Donald stand up to Ryan and the other Koch lackies ? Or will he concede again?

          Last edited by DABOOK; 12-22-17, 04:23 PM.
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          • guitarjosh
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            • 12-25-07
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            #180
            Originally posted by grease lightnin
            Sounds good when you say it but yeah not really.

            http://visualizingeconomics.com/blog...pita-1871-2009
            We're talking about 2 different things. GDP per capita will grow faster as technology increases.
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            • ByeShea
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              • 06-30-08
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              #181
              Originally posted by khicks26
              Trump is cutting tax's when the only people that have recovered from the 08 crash is the top 10%. God only knows how bad the next crash will be. But like I said, I hope I'm wrong & you are right. But history is not on your side.
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              • guitarjosh
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                • 12-25-07
                • 5784

                #182
                Originally posted by khicks26
                Yes, my great grand parents came here from Ireland.

                But there was also an open west & 2 WW that made this the Land of Opportunity. About the mid 70's for a few different reasons the need for labor dried up, & wages became stagnant.

                Also the time your referring to was also known as The Gilded Age & time of the Robber Barons.

                But yes Americans were never meant to pay income tax, nor should we be paying it today.

                Free Rents Josh.
                The open west had little to do with it, most immigrants were moving to big population centers to find good jobs, that was well before any world wars.

                The people at the time didn't call us the gilded land or the land of robber barons, and they had the highest standard of living for the average person up until that point in human history.

                Someone paying use my property isn't free rent.
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                • King Mayan
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                  • 09-22-10
                  • 21326

                  #183
                  Originally posted by ByeShea
                  Until he loses his job over a recession... but ok
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                  • grease lightnin
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                    • 10-01-12
                    • 16015

                    #184
                    Originally posted by guitarjosh
                    We're talking about 2 different things. GDP per capita will grow faster as technology increases.

                    Well raw GDP builds my case even better so.....

                    This time I am plotting United States GDP as a comparison to my first graph US Stock Market Growth since 1871 in this series . You will notice that the 2009 US GDP dropped to 2005-2006 levels as a result of the recent financial crises. Log scale version coming tomorrow.
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                    • vitterd
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                      • 09-14-17
                      • 58460

                      #185
                      Republicans are clueless. Just look at Kansas.....that’s Road we are going down.

                      Thanks Donnie!!! This plan is worse than Brooks favorite college ....Trump University!!
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                      • grease lightnin
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                        • 10-01-12
                        • 16015

                        #186
                        Originally posted by vitterd
                        Republicans are clueless. Just look at Kansas.....that’s Road we are going down.

                        Thanks Donnie!!! This plan is worse than Brooks favorite college ....Trump University!!


                        Brooks used to tout his “Science Degree” all the time.

                        Didn’t know Trump U offered those.
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                        • bonzaii
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                          • 07-07-17
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                          #187
                          In today's America if your not a cksucking corporate drone or work for the government or are a genius it's hard to get by.
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                          • guitarjosh
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                            • 12-25-07
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                            #188
                            Originally posted by grease lightnin
                            Well raw GDP builds my case even better so.....

                            https://visualizingeconomics.squares...-gdp-1871-2009
                            Look at standard of living increase. What you're doing is like saying the S&P going from 500 to 1000 (100% increase) is less impressive than the S&P going from 1500 to 2100 (40% increase). Obviously having more people in the country producing things will cause GDP to go up. Where did the average person have a higher standard of living than the US in 1890 up to that point in human history?

                            Originally posted by vitterd
                            Republicans are clueless. Just look at Kansas.....that’s Road we are going down.

                            Thanks Donnie!!! This plan is worse than Brooks favorite college ....Trump University!!
                            Look at Connecticut. The problem with Kansas is the SALT deduction sends most of those tax cuts to Washington, while the tax hikes in blue states just takes money from Washington and goes to the state capitals. There is a reason that so many blue state politicians on both sides are saying that this tax cut and elimination of the SALT deduction will be devastating for their states.

                            "While Washington is considering a 'tax cut' plan, what it really amounts to is a "tax increase" plan for New York," Governor Cuomo said. "The elimination of State and Local Tax deductibility is a death blow to New Yorkers and our economy. The current plan only makes it possible to cut taxes for other states by using New York and California as the piggybank. Every member of our Congressional delegation must do everything they can to stop this devastating proposal."
                            https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/gov...t-middle-class
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                            • RudyRuetigger
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                              • 08-24-10
                              • 65084

                              #189
                              Originally posted by bonzaii
                              In today's America if your not a cksucking corporate drone or work for the government or are a genius it's hard to get by.
                              well atleast you admitted you are stupid

                              THANKS
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                              • RudyRuetigger
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                                • 08-24-10
                                • 65084

                                #190
                                Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                Corp taxes needed to come down, been saying it here for years.

                                The problem is, they aren’t paying for these tax cuts. They are increasing the deficit, saying economic growth will pay for it, but that has never worked in the past.

                                Guys my taxes are going down significantly.

                                Understand this, over ten years, 80% of these tax cuts are going to the top 1%, 60% of the cuts are going to the top .10%.

                                If you aren’t in the top one percent, you are funding this tax cut for wealthy people and corporations.

                                If you aren’t in the top 1% and you voted for Trump, you are a patsy, and they are laughing at you.
                                this has to be the most idiotic post ive ever seen on sbr

                                guy has a clusterfukk of contradictions in there
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                                • bonzaii
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                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                  well atleast you admitted you are stupid

                                  THANKS
                                  Rudy do you even have a job?
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                                  • RudyRuetigger
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                                    • 08-24-10
                                    • 65084

                                    #192
                                    Originally posted by bonzaii
                                    Rudy do you even have a job?
                                    about 5 here know my job

                                    thanks for asking
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                                    • khicks26
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-16-06
                                      • 45593

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                      The open west had little to do with it, most immigrants were moving to big population centers to find good jobs, that was well before any world wars.

                                      The people at the time didn't call us the gilded land or the land of robber barons, and they had the highest standard of living for the average person up until that point in human history.

                                      Someone paying use my property isn't free rent.
                                      Westward expansion had a lot to do with it. An open frontier is a new opportunity. Mining, railroad, land development, killing Indians, farming, land claims, & much more. What are you talking about? Also if you didn't like your crappy job in the city, you could move out west & start a new life. Leaving a spot open for the next guy to come in. How many immigrants were sent out west to work on the railroads?

                                      The Gilded Age in United States history is the late 19th century, from the 1870s to about 1900. The term was coined by writer Mark Twain in The Gilded Age: A Tale of Today (1873), which satirized an era of serious social problems masked by a thin gold gilding.

                                      The idea is for humans to progress, not go back to the 1800s.

                                      No not for the person paying. For you it is.
                                      Last edited by khicks26; 12-22-17, 04:29 PM.
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                                      • vitterd
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                                        • 09-14-17
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                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                        Brooks used to tout his “Science Degree” all the time.

                                        Didn’t know Trump U offered those.
                                        Lol....good ole Brooksy.....that poor kid gets his face stomped on by everybody but he still said this :

                                        “ I’m very well respected here”—Brooks
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                                        • guitarjosh
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                                          • 12-25-07
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                                          #195
                                          Originally posted by khicks26
                                          Westward expansion had a lot to do with it. An open frontier is a new opportunity. Mining, railroad, land development, killing Indians, farming, land claims, & much more. What are you talking about? Also if you didn't like your crappy job in the city, you could move out west & start a new life. Leaving a spot open for the next guy to come in. How many immigrants were sent out west to work on the railroads?

                                          The Gilded Age in United States history is the late 19th century, from the 1870s to about 1900. The term was coined by writer Mark Twain in The Gilded Age: A Tale of Today (1873), which satirized an era of serious social problems masked by a thin gold gilding.

                                          The idea is for humans to progress, not go back to the 1800s.

                                          No not for the person paying. For you it is.
                                          Look at the census reports, most people weren't moving to the frontier, they were moving to the big cities to get jobs in factories. The government was so desperate to get people to move out west they had to have multiple acts of congress just to get them out there away from the cities.

                                          Your ancestors from Ireland didn't call this the Gilded Land, they called it the Land of Opportunity and moved here for a better life than they had in Europe.

                                          Humans progressed a lot in the 1800s! They progressed faster from an economic standpoint then than we are in America today.

                                          You're saying that if I buy a car, let someone use it for a taxi, they should be able to get all of the fares and I get nothing? That's insane.
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                                          • khicks26
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                                            • 09-16-06
                                            • 45593

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by ByeShea
                                            This is how fuking stupid you are. Do you really think that Chuck & Nancy give a fuk about the tax cuts? The donors that control Chuck & Nancy want the same tax cuts as Rep's.
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                                            • grease lightnin
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                                              • 10-01-12
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                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                              this has to be the most idiotic post ive ever seen on sbr

                                              guy has a clusterfukk of contradictions in there

                                              Sorry you can’t read, pal.
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                                              • PAULYPOKER
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                                                • 12-06-08
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                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by grease lightnin



                                                So if the government wanted everyone to have unprotected sex with people who have aids, I should not tell them they are going to get aids?

                                                I mean, I’m not SURE that they will get aids... there is a high probability they will, but there is still a small chance they won’t.

                                                I shouldnt warn them?
                                                On the floor LMFAO!!
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                                                • khicks26
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                                                  • 09-16-06
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                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                  Look at the census reports, most people weren't moving to the frontier, they were moving to the big cities to get jobs in factories. The government was so desperate to get people to move out west they had to have multiple acts of congress just to get them out there away from the cities.

                                                  Your ancestors from Ireland didn't call this the Gilded Land, they called it the Land of Opportunity and moved here for a better life than they had in Europe.

                                                  Humans progressed a lot in the 1800s! They progressed faster from an economic standpoint then than we are in America today.

                                                  You're saying that if I buy a car, let someone use it for a taxi, they should be able to get all of the fares and I get nothing? That's insane.
                                                  People moving to big cities doesn't have anything to do with an open frontier being good for a counties economy. Its room to grow, develop & create opportunity. Which was not possible in the Old Country at the time. All the land was used up.

                                                  No Josh they just wrote & read books about it being The Gilded Age.

                                                  I will take the standard of living today over the 1800's any day.

                                                  No that's not what I'm saying.
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                                                  • RudyRuetigger
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                                                    • 08-24-10
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                                                    #200
                                                    i say

                                                    everyone in usa put 10 in a pot

                                                    put the money on a 5 teamer

                                                    see if we can hit 20 trillion dollars on it

                                                    and pay off our debts
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                                                    • grease lightnin
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                                                      • 10-01-12
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                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                      Look at standard of living increase.
                                                      The chart is inflation-adjusted, big boi
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                                                      • guitarjosh
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                                                        • 12-25-07
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                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by khicks26
                                                        People moving to big cities doesn't have anything to do with an open frontier being good for a counties economy. Its room to grow, develop & create opportunity. Which was not possible in the Old Country at the time. All the land was used up.

                                                        No Josh they just wrote & read books about it being The Gilded Age.

                                                        I will take the standard of living today over the 1800's any day.

                                                        No that's not what I'm saying.
                                                        The majority of people weren't moving to the frontier, they were moving to the cities to get factory jobs. Look back at the census data, the most populated states were either on the Atlantic Ocean, the Great Lakes, or the Mississippi River due to their manufacturing and shipping jobs.

                                                        They also sent for their friends and family to join them in America, not to be exploited, but because their standing of living was so much higher here.

                                                        Are you really saying that if we cut taxes, spending, and regulation, TVs would go up in smoke and satellites would fall out of the sky? All the technological advances would still be here. Our standard of living in the 1800s grew much faster than at anytime in human history, despite having much less government involvement than other places in history. If we went to those policies now, we're not going to go back to that standard of living, we'll go to that pace of standard of living increases.

                                                        What are you saying? Give some examples of free rent.
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                                                        • guitarjosh
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                                                          • 12-25-07
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                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                          The chart is inflation-adjusted, big boi
                                                          Population and standard of living has virtually nothing to do with inflation. The late 1800s had massive deflation and massive standard living increases for the average person.
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                                                          • PAULYPOKER
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                                                            • 12-06-08
                                                            • 36581

                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by khicks26

                                                            Not sure what butt licking meeting your talking about. But TYT did put up this vid of Pence sucking some serious butt hole. If you can listen to Pence without puking, good luck.


                                                            Look at Trump's body language with arms crossed, tense as fukk.......

                                                            I'll bet no one could pound a pin needle up his bleeched balloon knot with a sledge hammer
                                                            during that video........

                                                            Those arms crossed is all we need to know........
                                                            Last edited by PAULYPOKER; 12-22-17, 05:04 PM.
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                                                            • grease lightnin
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                                                              • 10-01-12
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                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                              Population and standard of living has virtually nothing to do with inflation. The late 1800s had massive deflation and massive standard living increases for the average person.
                                                              Because of electricity and other tech advances. Not because of deflation (which is about the worst thing that can happen). There was a crazy long recession in the late 1800’s and things were not good economically.

                                                              To try and say things boomed before the income tax was in place, and not after is ludicrous.
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                                                              • guitarjosh
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                                                                • 12-25-07
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                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                                Because of electricity and other tech advances. Not because of deflation (which is about the worst thing that can happen). There was a crazy long recession in the late 1800’s and things were not good economically.

                                                                To try and say things boomed before the income tax was in place, and not after is ludicrous.
                                                                Most people didn't have regular electricity until very late 1800s/early 1900s. The Current Wars were around 1890. Actually deflation is a good thing for the average person. We've seen massive deflation in things like TVs, cars, cell phones, etc. Name one product that you want to pay more for next year than you do right now. I don't know which recession you're referring too, if it was the panic of 1893 that was caused by the government, as was the panic of 1873.

                                                                The thing is that the period from 1870-1890 is the greatest 2 decade period of growth in US history.
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                                                                • grease lightnin
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                                                                  • 10-01-12
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                                                                  #207
                                                                  Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                                  Most people didn't have regular electricity until very late 1800s/early 1900s. The Current Wars were around 1890. Actually deflation is a good thing for the average person. We've seen massive deflation in things like TVs, cars, cell phones, etc. Name one product that you want to pay more for next year than you do right now. I don't know which recession you're referring too, if it was the panic of 1893 that was caused by the government, as was the panic of 1873.

                                                                  The thing is that the period from 1870-1890 is the greatest 2 decade period of growth in US history.

                                                                  How do you define growth?

                                                                  And if you don’t mind, give me some evidence of your assertion.
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                                                                  • khicks26
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 09-16-06
                                                                    • 45593

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                                    The majority of people weren't moving to the frontier, they were moving to the cities to get factory jobs. Look back at the census data, the most populated states were either on the Atlantic Ocean, the Great Lakes, or the Mississippi River due to their manufacturing and shipping jobs.

                                                                    They also sent for their friends and family to join them in America, not to be exploited, but because their standing of living was so much higher here.

                                                                    Are you really saying that if we cut taxes, spending, and regulation, TVs would go up in smoke and satellites would fall out of the sky? All the technological advances would still be here. Our standard of living in the 1800s grew much faster than at anytime in human history, despite having much less government involvement than other places in history. If we went to those policies now, we're not going to go back to that standard of living, we'll go to that pace of standard of living increases.

                                                                    What are you saying? Give some examples of free rent.

                                                                    Let me put it to you this way. What does capitalism need? Growth. What does an open frontier allow capitalism to do? Grow. It doesn't matter were people move to.

                                                                    Yeah people left a shitty life there, for a little less shitty life here. Plus a chance to be apart of the growth that was going on & a chance to become rich. Many of them died, were killed & never became rich. Very few made it to the top.



                                                                    These people sure look glad about that job in the city.

                                                                    No I'm saying history shows that when you cut tax's & deregulate it leads to economic crash's. How bad it will be is anyone's guess.

                                                                    I explained Free Rents to you before.
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                                                                    • khicks26
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 09-16-06
                                                                      • 45593

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                                      Look at Trump's body language with arms crossed, tense as fukk.......

                                                                      I'll bet no one could pound a pin needle up his bleeched balloon knot with a sledge hammer
                                                                      during that video........

                                                                      Those arms crossed is all we need to know........
                                                                      I know the whole room is like. This is some fake ass BS.
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                                                                      • brooks85
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                                        • 44709

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by khicks26
                                                                        Let me put it to you this way. What does capitalism need? Growth. What does an open frontier allow capitalism to do? Grow. It doesn't matter were people move to.

                                                                        Yeah people left a shitty life there, for a little less shitty life here. Plus a chance to be apart of the growth that was going on & a chance to become rich. Many of them died, were killed & never became rich. Very few made it to the top.



                                                                        These people sure look glad about that job in the city.

                                                                        No I'm saying history shows that when you cut tax's & deregulate it leads to economic crash's. How bad it will be is anyone's guess.

                                                                        I explained Free Rents to you before.
                                                                        nothing is said in this post, absolutely nothing. You can tell when khicks has ran out of youtubeU quotes to repeat.
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