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    Bodemeister post time preakness odds

    any of the horse experts here have an idea what bode's post time odds might be

    I'm thinking even money. speed fukkin kills at pimlico

    thinking of putting a real big win wager on him if i can get 8-5 or better

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    Be careful with Bode as this is his 3rd tough race in 5 weeks, and 6th start of the year. He is probably the best horse, but he might bounce and not fire. Don't like at Bode at what most likely will be low odds. But if he gets loose on the lead, he could take it at 1 3/16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    Be careful with Bode as this is his 3rd tough race in 5 weeks, and 6th start of the year. He is probably the best horse, but he might bounce and not fire. Don't like at Bode at what most likely will be low odds. But if he gets loose on the lead, he could take it at 1 3/16.

    thats the thing

    sets up perfect for him

    if he gets a comfy lead for the first half mile he's fukkin gone. no way they catch him at pimlico

    your right tho. downside is he doesn't fire which could happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    thats the thing

    sets up perfect for him

    if he gets a comfy lead for the first half mile he's fukkin gone. no way they catch him at pimlico

    your right tho. downside is he doesn't fire which could happen
    That's one of the factors that makes horse racing tough to handicap imo. You might have the best horse and he might not fire because he's spent. I'll will take my chances against Bode for that reason. I just think running like he did in the derby had to take something out of him.

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    Bet him to PLACE.

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    Take I'll have another to the bank. I'll have another and bodemeistee exacta box

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petey Wheatstraw View Post
    Bet him to PLACE.



    petty you fukkin prik

    he will pay 3.20 to show

    what the fukk am i gonna do with that

    not betting 30k on him to place

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    I doubt he will go as low as even money. I'll guess 8/5, 3/2 ,7/5 but no lower. After losing a 30/1 future on Bodie in the Derby I'm in no hurry to take the short price in Maryland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frizzelli View Post
    Bronxer call me on the 403

    gimme 10 pal

    out right now on my collection runs

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilbert91016 View Post
    Take I'll have another to the bank. I'll have another and bodemeistee exacta box

    This is the squarest bet you can make.It might win but you and the other 2 billion people who make that play are better off just keeping the money in your pocket.If you are going to go with those 2 you'd be wiser to A,B/A,B/C,D,E,F,G TRI or the same super.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    This is the squarest bet you can make.It might win but you and the other 2 billion people who make that play are better off just keeping the money in your pocket.If you are going to go with those 2 you'd be wiser to A,B/A,B/C,D,E,F,G TRI or the same super.
    mike what do you think bodes post time odds will be

    and do you like his chances.

    with his speed at this track i don't know if they can catch him. maybe he doesn't fire?

    i dont know

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    This is the squarest bet you can make.It might win but you and the other 2 billion people who make that play are better off just keeping the money in your pocket.If you are going to go with those 2 you'd be wiser to A,B/A,B/C,D,E,F,G TRI or the same super.
    I Agree 100%. but I don't c much changing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    mike what do you think bodes post time odds will be

    and do you like his chances.

    with his speed at this track i don't know if they can catch him. maybe he doesn't fire?

    i dont know
    Best thing to do is check what his odds are about an hour before post, in these big races the odds wont change very much in the ;last hour due to the large pools.

    If he does fire its all but over for everone else and if he goes off at 7-5or higher and is on his game it will be like stealing.

    Im hoping he bounces cuz im putting $300 to win on Daddy Knows best.

    But if your mind is set to take Bode i wouldnt bet him at anything lower then 7-5

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    I would be surprised if he is 8-5 . I mentioned 6-5 earlier this week. That might be a bit low but what capper is not going to see that he should be solo speed at a shorter distance. Most will also feel that running at Pimlico will help speed horses. And while that was 100% accurate years ago, it is not the pure speed track that it used too be. It is closer to fair nowadays, other than bias days when it has been over graded, than it ever has. Pace makes the race and he should get a 47 1/5s or better half. If he does, he has no excuse. Having said that, betting a horse that was WITH a very strong speed bias in his last race, as a favorite in there next race is not the scenario that makes you money over time.
    Don't get wrapped up in the moment with your money. If you like him, cut down the size of the bet and key him in exactas , tri's or supers with some bombs. Over the years, local horses have run big in the 2nd slot and Ricky D. as well as Kent both know that track as well as anyone does. That's my opinion.
    Best of luck man.

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    you know what bodemeister in german means ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    mike what do you think bodes post time odds will be

    and do you like his chances.

    with his speed at this track i don't know if they can catch him. maybe he doesn't fire?

    i dont know

    I think that because I'll Have Another is going to take a lot of money too that Bode will probably be right on his ML if not drift up a little to 2-1.

    As for the track speed it has been pretty fair in dirt routes.Closers are winning just as much as early speed.Its the short sprints they run at 5 1/2 furlongs where speed is king.That said early speed is almost always a plus because they hardly ever encounter the trouble a closer might unless its when they break from the gate.

    I like his chances, I think he runs away from the field and wins by 3+ lengths.I know a lot of people think he is going to bounce but I actually think he bounced in the derby and has had 5 weeks since his big top in the Arkansas Derby.I would say that the way to tackle the race is to go against I'll Have Another.


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    Thinking about it a little more not sure what the odds will be.I kind of see a scenario where Bode and IHA vie for favortism because the "sharps" are playing Bode to bounce, in which case I can see both right around 2-1.We'll see but its going to be very hard for him to be bet down much from 8-5.

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    When do sportsbooks open up for betting on the race?

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    Predict his odds will be 3:2.

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    he will go off at 6-5
    ill have another will be 9-5
    creative cause will go off about 5.5 -1

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    Mike I also think Bode bounced in the K Derby and should run well here, like Went the day well underneath along with a few others , however Im leaving out CC for 2nd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    mike what do you think bodes post time odds will be

    and do you like his chances.

    with his speed at this track i don't know if they can catch him. maybe he doesn't fire?

    i dont know

    Hope you see this before you send it in.

    If the track plays anything like it did today it doesn't look good for Bode.Its all about finishers so I would upgrade

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    3-5 more than likely, its a 2 horse race for the most part he will be less than even money and the derby winner will be 2-1 or so rest of the field will be double digits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantitall4moi View Post
    3-5 more than likely, its a 2 horse race for the most part he will be less than even money and the derby winner will be 2-1 or so rest of the field will be double digits.
    Doubt Bodemeister drops to as low as 3/5. But he is 7/5 in early wagering, with I'LL Have Another next at 7/2.

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    there are really only 2 horses you can bet with a straight face, maybe creative cause gets a little action but not enough to make a difference. I would say 90% of the pool will be on the top two horses, whether 60% of so of the entire pool is on Bodemeister is a guess I think it will be, he was crushed in a 20 horse field and he ran a race that enough spectator bettors like the triple crown attracts will fall in love with, so he will get hammered even more I suspect, had he won the Derby by a nose I say he would be 2-5 in here, but since he lost that will give a little support, not a ton to the actual winner.

    I suspect it will be similar to Sunday Silence and Easy Goer in the Belmont where it is nearly a match race, Sunday Silence was 4-5 and Easy Goer was 8-5. Thats why I say 3-5 and 2-1 or so, as I dont think people will line up for the Derby Winner but will maybe like Bode that much more. I just dont know the Pimlico take I imagine it is 17% which can factor in somewhat.

    but at 7-5 and 7-2 that means in the early wagering 64% of the money is on those two horse right now, I think that amount goes up greatly in the on track pool.

    who knows, all I know is that it will more than likely be a bad betting race unlike the nice spot the derby was.

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    If Bodemeister is 6-5 or less, I think he wins
    If 7-5 it's a toss up
    If 8-5 or greater we may need a lantern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post


    petty you fukkin prik

    he will pay 3.20 to show

    what the fukk am i gonna do with that

    not betting 30k on him to place
    To "PLACE" dooopid.

    Bet a GRAND and WIN 800$ dooopid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    Hope you see this before you send it in.

    If the track plays anything like it did today it doesn't look good for Bode.Its all about finishers so I would upgrade

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    Looks like the track is nothing like yesterday.Speed is holding on both surfaces which is odd.Usually the turf always favors off the pace horses at Pimlico but so far most of the races have been wire to wire.I would say to watch the 10th race and if 1-Canadian Mistress holds relatively well then Bode should be just fine.
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    if its a speed bias then 3/5 is very likely here I would say as everyone likes to use these generic 'angles' in their logic. all these once or twice a year bettors come out and try to use all the 'professional' angles, which are basically a joke and what people who talk about it use to sound smart to people who dont know any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    Be careful with Bode as this is his 3rd tough race in 5 weeks, and 6th start of the year. He is probably the best horse, but he might bounce and not fire. Don't like at Bode at what most likely will be low odds. But if he gets loose on the lead, he could take it at 1 3/16.
    Excellent post. You never know when a horse won't fire. He gets a little off stride or a bump or even a little dirt in his eyes and he could well trot home in last place. That's where the ultra short odds make it tough. Its not a good risk to reward for sure. But, poor risk to reward and all I love Bodiee to love this pace and ride hard to a convincing win. We will see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post


    petty you fukkin prik

    he will pay 3.20 to show

    what the fukk am i gonna do with that

    not betting 30k on him to place
    Yo Br0nxer: Had you did what you said "not betting 30k on him to place" you would have won $27,000.00. Guess it's good you didn't since that would have been a pretty bad day for the likes of you. Actually I think you're full of . That's my early handicap on you pal. Have a great day, oh and Yankees lose again!

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