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  • grease lightnin
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    • 10-01-12
    • 16015

    #1611
    Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow
    not sure if this has been posted because I havent been reading the thread
    ever since it became downright comical with all the stupid shit theories being brought about



    Key Witness in Las Vegas Shooting Kills Self and Daughter Following FBI Raid



    A key witness in the Las Vegas shooting massacre has killed himself and his disabled daughter in a horrific murder-suicide shortly after the FBI raided his home.John Beilman was wanted for questioning by federal agents in connection with a communications device discovered in suspected shooter Stephen Paddock’s hotel room.
    Investigators searched Beilman’s Fairport home the day before he shot his severely disabled daughter and himself, according to sources close to the investigation.Agents executed a search warrant and raided Beilman’s Williamsburg Drive home the day before he took his daughter, Nicole, into the backyard and shot her and then himself in the back of the head with a 12-gauge shotgun.John Beilman’s 27-year-old daughter, Nicole, had Rett Syndrome, a rare neurological disorder.Nicole Beilman relied upon a wheelchair and was dependent on her parents for care.
    According to this report, upon the FBI searching the Mandalay Bay Hotel room used by CIA gun runner Stephen Paddock, a cell phone charger was discovered that had no accompanying phone—with SVR technology experts noting that this type of charger is used to charge a CP502520 3.0V 600mAh Li-MnO2 Non-rechargeable Thin Cell Battery used in various communication devices by both US Special Forces and CIA forces.
    The company making this unique lithium battery, this report details, is Ultralife Corporation, based in Newark, New York, that specializes in military communications systems for the Pentagon—and whose lead engineer for this particular communication systems development was John Beilman.Listing himself as a “product design and manufacturing professional”, this report continues, John Beilman was employed by Ultralife Corporation between 2007-2012 where he worked on various top-secret communications systems for the US military—thereafter his leaving to become a top engineer at the General Motors research facility located in Rochester New York.
    Fearing that Ultralife Corporation had been secretly funneling their US military communications systems to the CIA, this report notes, this past Tuesday (3 October), the FBI raided the home of John Beilman under a secret US Federal Court warrant—and that caused Beilman, less than 12 hours later, during the early morning hours of Wednesday (4 October), to wheel out his severely disabled daughter Nicole into his home’s backyard where she was executed, with Beilman then killing himself too—and that was followed 48 hours later (6 October) by the Pentagon awarding Ultralife Corporation new contracts valued at over $49 million.
    The CIA, this report further notes, has long been known to eliminate witnesses to their “murder sacrifice” “false flag” operations—and that includes the hundreds of witnesses mysteriously killed following the 9/11 “Tower Sacrifice”, and the, likewise, hundreds of witnesses mysteriously dying following the “King Sacrifice” murder of President John F. Kennedy—and that London’s Sunday Times reported the “the odds against these witnesses being dead by February 1967, were one hundred thousand trillion to one.”The FBI claim they didn’t protect, or at the very least put under 24-hour surveillance, John Beilman following their raid on his home, due to American domestic intelligence experiencing a manpower shortage in their Las Vegas massacre investigation.
    According to D&C, John Beilman committed the murder-suicide shortly after 5:20 a.m., Fairport police say.Fairport police said Beilman’s wife, Donna Beilman, was inside the home and did not hear the shots that took the life of her husband and daughter.
    Fairport Police Chief Samuel Farina said John Beilman left behind a “goodbye note” to his wife that indicated the circumstances of the shooting but not a motive.A neighbor of Beilman reported that he saw two police cars near the home the day before the killings. Farina said this week that police had not responded to any calls at the home.The FBI and federal prosecutors declined to comment.
    A federal magistrate judge would have approved a search of the home. However, approval of a search does not ensure a crime was committed; instead, it is a search for evidence of a crime.Records of federal searches are often filed under seal, and there was no public record available Friday of the search of the Fairport home.




    Where did this come from?
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    • PaperTrail07
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      • 08-29-08
      • 20423

      #1612
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      • PaperTrail07
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        • 08-29-08
        • 20423

        #1613
        Enh not best video but also not entirely worst theory in him being an FBI agent ....
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        • Auto Donk
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          • 09-03-13
          • 43558

          #1614
          Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
          Everyone wants instant answers and are looking to find more people to blame when in fact it was just a horrific massacre committed by a piece of shit.
          i agree with this conclusion, but in the aftermath of fake narratives, and the obvious motive behind the fake narratives (protect the casino from liability/make it look good), once again the "cover up" will prove to be far more damaging to the brainiacs at mgm, who thought it would be a good idea to cook up the crock of shit phony narrative, than the actual shooting itself....

          if any of us, in the face of law enforcement investigation, cooked up a 180 degree phony cover up to make ourselves look good, and then said phony narrative wilted under scrutiny by the FBI, we'd be quickly charged with obstruction of justice.....

          now, this is where it will get interesting and reveal the real underworld of las vegas power and its interaction with law enforcement.... who protects who, who pays who, etc.... this is going to strain the vegas power structure, and put the lvpd in the unenviable spot of where to come out on the phony narrative -- does it protect the power brokers at mgm and the casinos in general, or does it risk all the shit that goes down between the two city wide getting blown open if the department chooses to throw the mgm execs under the bus.....

          lot of people in vegas feeling the pucker factor after the revelation of the sec. guard being shot at BEFORE the crowd below, as opposed to the phony narrative initially propagated by mgm/lombardo....
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          • Auto Donk
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-03-13
            • 43558

            #1615
            well, it's safe to say, after watching this video below, that every f'n murder and or suicide in the state of nevada that is committed over the next two-three years will be tied to the Vegas Massacre..... un-f'n-real.....



            if the fukstick makin' the vid wants to have any f'n credibility at all, he needs to get an entire wardrobe makeover and lose the f'n cheesy fedora....
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            • Auto Donk
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              • 09-03-13
              • 43558

              #1616
              love these things.....



              one quick f'n question... how the fuk does a house with a particle board garage door somehow appraise at over $400,000.00....

              f'n-a, even waves $40,000 shanty in the ghetto has a real garage door.....
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              • chargers4222
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                • 01-16-10
                • 4702

                #1617
                Originally posted by grease lightnin
                Nice job in BTP, chargers!!!

                What place are you in? I was looking at top ten earlier and the only one I recognized was Beer Dog.
                Thanks dude -- I think I'm top 20 in BTP, and I'm like 6th in BTB. If Louisville could've finished off that garbage TD drive on Thurs., I'd be in first for BTP. Tons of time left though.
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                • chargers4222
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                  • 01-16-10
                  • 4702

                  #1618
                  Originally posted by slambam
                  Never
                  Really? They're just gonna leave it empty? That's silly. If anything, the site of the concert should be turned into a memorial.
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                  • Grits n' Gravy
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                    • 06-10-10
                    • 13024

                    #1619
                    Originally posted by Auto Donk
                    i agree with this conclusion, but in the aftermath of fake narratives, and the obvious motive behind the fake narratives (protect the casino from liability/make it look good), once again the "cover up" will prove to be far more damaging to the brainiacs at mgm, who thought it would be a good idea to cook up the crock of shit phony narrative, than the actual shooting itself....

                    if any of us, in the face of law enforcement investigation, cooked up a 180 degree phony cover up to make ourselves look good, and then said phony narrative wilted under scrutiny by the FBI, we'd be quickly charged with obstruction of justice.....

                    now, this is where it will get interesting and reveal the real underworld of las vegas power and its interaction with law enforcement.... who protects who, who pays who, etc.... this is going to strain the vegas power structure, and put the lvpd in the unenviable spot of where to come out on the phony narrative -- does it protect the power brokers at mgm and the casinos in general, or does it risk all the shit that goes down between the two city wide getting blown open if the department chooses to throw the mgm execs under the bus.....

                    lot of people in vegas feeling the pucker factor after the revelation of the sec. guard being shot at BEFORE the crowd below, as opposed to the phony narrative initially propagated by mgm/lombardo....
                    I'm going to disagree with MGM throwing out a false narrative. In my opinion Information was released to media far too soon and an accurate timeline of all events had yet to be established.
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                    • slambam
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                      • 02-07-10
                      • 1653

                      #1620
                      Originally posted by chargers4222
                      Really? They're just gonna leave it empty? That's silly. If anything, the site of the concert should be turned into a memorial.
                      I'd be absolutely shocked if they continue to rent out the room. I would honestly guess they just make it into storage or a common area with a memorial there - just my guess. I wonder more about the concert grounds, I feel like they would probably continue to use it for concerts there, but man, that'd be a tough place to attend a concert now. I really don't know. There was an article I read about this somewhere, all speculation though.
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                      • SharpAngles
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-15-14
                        • 9467

                        #1621
                        took his daughter, Nicole, into the backyard and shot her and then himself in the back of the head with a 12-gauge shotgun.
                        ...
                        According to this report, upon the FBI searching the Mandalay Bay Hotel room used by CIA gun runner Stephen Paddock, a cell phone charger was discovered that had no accompanying phone—with SVR technology experts noting that this type of charger is used to charge a CP502520 3.0V 600mAh Li-MnO2 Non-rechargeable Thin Cell Battery used in various communication devices by both US Special Forces and CIA forces.






                        Which basement dweller wrote this?

                        I will say this story is getting stranger but it's still a large leap of logic that the govt planned this event.

                        I'll also say everyone crying for hotel video of him carrying the bags doesn't realize a guy with his volume of gambling would no doubt have the bag boys wheeling them up. Probably part of his sick plan. You think MGM is ever releasing video of their employees carrying the fukin guns up?
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                        • Auto Donk
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                          • 09-03-13
                          • 43558

                          #1622
                          Originally posted by slambam
                          I'd be absolutely shocked if they continue to rent out the room. I would honestly guess they just make it into storage or a common area with a memorial there - just my guess. I wonder more about the concert grounds, I feel like they would probably continue to use it for concerts there, but man, that'd be a tough place to attend a concert now. I really don't know. There was an article I read about this somewhere, all speculation though.
                          it'll either be reconfigured to be house keeping, storage, anything but a hotel room....

                          no way it becomes a memorial, as no casino want's random azzholes wandering up to the 32nd floor, disturbing actual guests, etc.... gthey'd have to shut down the entire 32nd floor if they had any inclination to make some sort of half ass memorial out of a sniper's lair.... that ain't gonna happen (though they might be forced to shut down the entire 32nd floor altogether just because guests don't want the macabre feeling of even staying on that floor.... ie, turn the whole floor into a data/security/housekeeping/accounting dept., etc.).....

                          but no way they rent that room; or turn that room into a memorial....
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                          • d2bets
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                            • 08-10-05
                            • 39995

                            #1623
                            Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow
                            not sure if this has been posted because I havent been reading the thread
                            ever since it became downright comical with all the stupid shit theories being brought about



                            Key Witness in Las Vegas Shooting Kills Self and Daughter Following FBI Raid



                            A key witness in the Las Vegas shooting massacre has killed himself and his disabled daughter in a horrific murder-suicide shortly after the FBI raided his home.John Beilman was wanted for questioning by federal agents in connection with a communications device discovered in suspected shooter Stephen Paddock’s hotel room.
                            Investigators searched Beilman’s Fairport home the day before he shot his severely disabled daughter and himself, according to sources close to the investigation.Agents executed a search warrant and raided Beilman’s Williamsburg Drive home the day before he took his daughter, Nicole, into the backyard and shot her and then himself in the back of the head with a 12-gauge shotgun.John Beilman’s 27-year-old daughter, Nicole, had Rett Syndrome, a rare neurological disorder.Nicole Beilman relied upon a wheelchair and was dependent on her parents for care.
                            According to this report, upon the FBI searching the Mandalay Bay Hotel room used by CIA gun runner Stephen Paddock, a cell phone charger was discovered that had no accompanying phone—with SVR technology experts noting that this type of charger is used to charge a CP502520 3.0V 600mAh Li-MnO2 Non-rechargeable Thin Cell Battery used in various communication devices by both US Special Forces and CIA forces.
                            The company making this unique lithium battery, this report details, is Ultralife Corporation, based in Newark, New York, that specializes in military communications systems for the Pentagon—and whose lead engineer for this particular communication systems development was John Beilman.Listing himself as a “product design and manufacturing professional”, this report continues, John Beilman was employed by Ultralife Corporation between 2007-2012 where he worked on various top-secret communications systems for the US military—thereafter his leaving to become a top engineer at the General Motors research facility located in Rochester New York.
                            Fearing that Ultralife Corporation had been secretly funneling their US military communications systems to the CIA, this report notes, this past Tuesday (3 October), the FBI raided the home of John Beilman under a secret US Federal Court warrant—and that caused Beilman, less than 12 hours later, during the early morning hours of Wednesday (4 October), to wheel out his severely disabled daughter Nicole into his home’s backyard where she was executed, with Beilman then killing himself too—and that was followed 48 hours later (6 October) by the Pentagon awarding Ultralife Corporation new contracts valued at over $49 million.
                            The CIA, this report further notes, has long been known to eliminate witnesses to their “murder sacrifice” “false flag” operations—and that includes the hundreds of witnesses mysteriously killed following the 9/11 “Tower Sacrifice”, and the, likewise, hundreds of witnesses mysteriously dying following the “King Sacrifice” murder of President John F. Kennedy—and that London’s Sunday Times reported the “the odds against these witnesses being dead by February 1967, were one hundred thousand trillion to one.”The FBI claim they didn’t protect, or at the very least put under 24-hour surveillance, John Beilman following their raid on his home, due to American domestic intelligence experiencing a manpower shortage in their Las Vegas massacre investigation.
                            According to D&C, John Beilman committed the murder-suicide shortly after 5:20 a.m., Fairport police say.Fairport police said Beilman’s wife, Donna Beilman, was inside the home and did not hear the shots that took the life of her husband and daughter.
                            Fairport Police Chief Samuel Farina said John Beilman left behind a “goodbye note” to his wife that indicated the circumstances of the shooting but not a motive.A neighbor of Beilman reported that he saw two police cars near the home the day before the killings. Farina said this week that police had not responded to any calls at the home.The FBI and federal prosecutors declined to comment.
                            A federal magistrate judge would have approved a search of the home. However, approval of a search does not ensure a crime was committed; instead, it is a search for evidence of a crime.Records of federal searches are often filed under seal, and there was no public record available Friday of the search of the Fairport home.


                            Sorry, but that looks like a total bullshit report.
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                            • Auto Donk
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                              • 09-03-13
                              • 43558

                              #1624
                              the next thing i'm waiting to hear, or see a video of, related to the vegas shooting will be the first report of the FBI "human gauntlet" they run on witnesses to intimidate them, like they did on the witness at the scene of vince foster's death....

                              the poor schmuck reported that he and his girlfriend left his d.c. area apartment, only to first immediately be run into a couple of suit/hat wearing flat foots, then, another, as they start to cross an intersection, then two more fbi goons drive by leering at them, and then several more on foot, bumping into them repeatedly while giving them menacing stares, more drivers leering at them, more goons staring/ramming into them in repeated succession, etc.,.....

                              love that shit..... nothing lets a witness know that the gov't is about to fuk them up bigtime more than the human gauntlet.....

                              poor bastard's name was patrick knowlton..... here's a link to all the fbi did to him to fuk him up regarding any effort to testify as to the fact vince foster was obviously murdered:



                              relevant excerpt from the link above:

                              Beginning the same day Agent Bransford served Mr. Knowlton the secret grand jury subpoena, he was harassed by at least 25 men and Agent Bransford prior to testifying before the grand jury, and one man after testifying:


                              (a) Eleven or more men on October 26, 1995;

                              (b) Twelve or more men on October 27, 1995;


                              (c) Two or more men on October 28, 1995;


                              (d) FBI Agent Bransford on October 30, 1995; and


                              (e) One man on November 2, 1995.


                              The objects of the harassment were twofold, to:


                              (a) Intimidate and warn Mr. Knowlton in connection

                              with his grand jury testimony; and failing that,

                              (b) Destabilize Mr. Knowlton and discredit his

                              testimony before the grand jury.

                              This technique of subjecting a witness to an overwhelming campaign of harassment to (i) intimidate and warn, and alternatively to (ii) destabilize and discredit the witness, is known to federal intelligence and investigative agencies.


                              On Wednesday, November 1, 1995 Mr. Knowlton testified before the Washington, DC Whitewater grand jury. Prosecutors questioning Mr. Knowlton during his grand jury appearance had been apprised prior to his appearance of his reports of being harassed by in excess of 25 men. The wrongdoers accomplished their object of discrediting him. Prosecutors did not believe Mr. Knowlton's bizarre account of having been harassed, at one point asking him to "tell us a little bit about the alleged harassment." Nor did prosecutors believe much of anything else Mr. Knowlton had to say.


                              On October 25, 1996 Mr. Knowlton filed a lawsuit in this District Court against FBI Agents Russel T. Bransford and Lawrence Monroe (and others), alleging that these FBI agents are vicariously liable to Plaintiff for his damages under the law of civil conspiracy for inter alia, violation of 42 U.S.C. § 1985, "Conspiracy to interfere with civil rights," part (2), "Obstructing justice; intimidating party, witness, or juror." The Plaintiff alleges he was intimidated in an attempt to obstruct justice in connection with Mr. Starr's investigation into Mr. Foster's death.


                              As of the date of this filing, Monroe's and Bransford's motion to dismiss and alternative motion for summary judgment is pending. See Patrick James Knowlton v. FBI Agent Russel T. Bransford, et al., Civil Action No. 96-2467.
                              Last edited by Auto Donk; 10-10-17, 01:58 PM.
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                              • Auto Donk
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                                • 09-03-13
                                • 43558

                                #1625
                                Originally posted by SharpAngles
                                You think MGM is ever releasing video of their employees carrying the fukin guns up?
                                only when hit with a subpoena in the obvious wrongful death lawsuit(s) that are now sure to follow in light of the bunglin' of the investigation and clear attempt at a cover up....

                                there are plenty of lawyers in vegas/nevada who've been screwed over by the casinos (in their minds, at least) who'll be willing to take on the cases.....

                                they will indeed get their hands on such videos as part of the discovery process.....
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                                • SharpAngles
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                                  • 04-15-14
                                  • 9467

                                  #1626
                                  (a) Eleven or more men on October 26, 1995;

                                  (b) Twelve or more men on October 27, 1995;


                                  (c) Two or more men on October 28, 1995;


                                  (d) FBI Agent Bransford on October 30, 1995; and


                                  (e) One man on November 2, 1995.





                                  How is jjgolds tinder history in anyway relevant here?!
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                                  • Auto Donk
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                                    • 09-03-13
                                    • 43558

                                    #1627
                                    that's the beauty of the fbi goon gauntlet.....
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                                    • 19th Hole
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                                      • 03-22-09
                                      • 18936

                                      #1628
                                      Originally posted by SharpAngles
                                      (a) Eleven or more men on October 26, 1995;
                                      (b) Twelve or more men on October 27, 1995;

                                      (c) Two or more men on October 28, 1995;
                                      (d) FBI Agent Bransford on October 30, 1995; and

                                      (e) One man on November 2, 1995.

                                      How is jjgolds tinder history in anyway relevant here?!
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                                      • Auto Donk
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                                        • 09-03-13
                                        • 43558

                                        #1629
                                        well, neil cavuto and judge neopolitan are all over suing the shit out of mandalay bay, on a whole host of theories.... first and foremost being the knowledge that they had an active shooter with fully automatic weapons on the 32nd floor of their casino a full six minutes before any shooting of the concert goers next door began....

                                        imagine if those people had been notified quickly of that fact, how many would've gotten out alive that didn't given no warning beforehand....

                                        granted, the mass panic that might have ensued could have possibly resulted in even more injuries and some death (by crushing), if there'd been a mass exodus under the panic of a warning about a potential shooter, but we'll leave that to vegas' finest personal injury lawyers to deal with.....

                                        also, whether the sec. guard mr. campos had been properly trained, whether he followed that training, etc., ....

                                        but the bottom line is I'm by far not the only one thinking this way, as the MSM's conservative voice, fox news, is already all over it... not sure about the rest of the MSM, as I don't generally watch it, except perhaps limited gma and abc news with david meure....
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                                        • slayer14
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                                          • 08-12-13
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                                          #1630
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                                          • Auto Donk
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                                            • 09-03-13
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                                            #1631
                                            Originally posted by slayer14
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                                            • jjgold
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                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #1632
                                              I think people should be put in jail that say the shootings are fake I would give them 10 years
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                                              • Auto Donk
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                                                • 09-03-13
                                                • 43558

                                                #1633
                                                anyone saying there were no shootings clearly not informed.... saying "lack of blood" or "i don't see blood in this clip" or that clip.... dumbasses don't realize it was a big venue, and not every clip is gonna have blood in it....

                                                kinda like saying I didn't shoot a deer on my ranch because they didn't see blood on this acre or that acre, when meanwhile where I shot it looked like freddy f'n kruger had been doin' what he does best in that area.....
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                                                • TheMoneyShot
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                                                  #1634
                                                  Originally posted by slayer14



                                                  At the end of the video... this pops up. What are they saying? That the consonants and vowels of someone's name creates numerology of some sort?? Like the Devil? Anyone can chime in and answer this.
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                                                  • Auto Donk
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                                                    • 09-03-13
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                                                    #1635
                                                    shit, my digits add up to 9 1/2

                                                    DonkF'nDiggler

                                                    ps... on a serious note, MB/Lombardo circling the wagons at this point..... pi lawyers starting to salivate.... even abc news sicked brian ross on MB today, and they avoided him like the plague.... MSM getting on board with burying the casino now..... Ross reported that the fbi "forced" lombardo to correct the phony narrative that MB hoped would stick.....
                                                    Last edited by Auto Donk; 10-10-17, 07:00 PM.
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                                                    • TheMoneyShot
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                                                      #1636
                                                      Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                      tms, on your "splatter" evidence.... you have to assume that the gunman shot himself in the mouth while either standing (most likely) or sitting... he didn't lie down on the floor and shoot himself in the head. that's just where he fell.... in all likelihood, the "splatter" from the self inflicted gunshot went in some other direction altogether, and not right where his head ultimately wound up.....


                                                      thus, you'll find it somewhere else near the body, possibly some on the f'n ceiling for example.... but the lack of it right near where his head ultimately wound up on the floor isn't that revealing.....

                                                      You are correct Donker. It could of gone anywhere. Possibly splattered underneath that pool of blood milliseconds before his skull hitting the floor. My point is... use your best assessment. Chances are... if he shot himself where the supposedly body is now... the spray would be NORTH. But you clearly don't see anything North... in reference to some splatter from a gunshot. You do see... what appears to be... someone dragging the gun North of the body.

                                                      Guy could of been shot somewhere else... and the body dragged... and the scene prepped. Again.... I wish I could see it as game, set, match.... but everything is suspicious to me.


                                                      Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                      Everyone wants instant answers and are looking to find more people to blame when in fact it was just a horrific massacre committed by a piece of shit.
                                                      Gritter... is there anyone that you spoke to in the past 10 days or so... that has some concrete proof that things aren't syncing up with the media's report? Or you believe everything is pretty much dead on to what they are saying? I mean... you seem like a very logical guy... with a lot of insight. Is there any story that you heard... that could be different from the media outlets?

                                                      Anything that you question at all?
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                                                      • d2bets
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                                                        #1637
                                                        Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                        anyone saying there were no shootings clearly not informed.... saying "lack of blood" or "i don't see blood in this clip" or that clip.... dumbasses don't realize it was a big venue, and not every clip is gonna have blood in it....

                                                        kinda like saying I didn't shoot a deer on my ranch because they didn't see blood on this acre or that acre, when meanwhile where I shot it looked like freddy f'n kruger had been doin' what he does best in that area.....
                                                        Is anyone actually saying that?

                                                        I was there and heard the shots and saw people running across the street. Then saw people streaming into MGM crying and frantic and some with blood. Only certifiable nutjobs say it didn't happen.
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                                                        • Auto Donk
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                                                          • 09-03-13
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                                                          #1638
                                                          Originally posted by d2bets
                                                          Is anyone actually saying that?

                                                          I was there and heard the shots and saw people running across the street. Then saw people streaming into MGM crying and frantic and some with blood. Only certifiable nutjobs say it didn't happen.
                                                          the dumbass in the video he posted above that JJ and I were commenting on....

                                                          and several other videos.... tho I think most of those were in the first two days or so..... but yes, some were trying to say it was like sandy hook allegedly was, with no actual blood or victims, just crisis actors.....
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                                                          • themike78
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                                                            #1639
                                                            Crisis actors lol. I don't even think these idiots making these videos believe what they are saying. They are just doing it for attention. It's pretty sickening though. I would love for them to confront the actual families of people that lost somebody and see what happens. How does one exactly become a crisis actor? Does it pay well?
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                                                            • xKMACKx
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                                                              • 11-16-08
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                                                              #1640
                                                              If you look hard enough there is a video out there of a guy walking around checking pulses on people already dead on the ground. There is definitely blood.
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                                                              • xKMACKx
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                                                                • 11-16-08
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                                                                #1641
                                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                Is anyone actually saying that?

                                                                I was there and heard the shots and saw people running across the street. Then saw people streaming into MGM crying and frantic and some with blood. Only certifiable nutjobs say it didn't happen.
                                                                I've seen several comments on youtube and twitter saying it's fake, they don't see any blood.
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                                                                • grease lightnin
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                                                                  • 10-01-12
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                                                                  #1642
                                                                  Originally posted by xKMACKx
                                                                  If you look hard enough there is a video out there of a guy walking around checking pulses on people already dead on the ground. There is definitely blood.

                                                                  That vid is in this thread
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                                                                  • chargers4222
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-16-10
                                                                    • 4702

                                                                    #1643
                                                                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                                    You are correct Donker. It could of gone anywhere. Possibly splattered underneath that pool of blood milliseconds before his skull hitting the floor. My point is... use your best assessment. Chances are... if he shot himself where the supposedly body is now... the spray would be NORTH. But you clearly don't see anything North... in reference to some splatter from a gunshot. You do see... what appears to be... someone dragging the gun North of the body.

                                                                    Guy could of been shot somewhere else... and the body dragged... and the scene prepped. Again.... I wish I could see it as game, set, match.... but everything is suspicious to me.




                                                                    Gritter... is there anyone that you spoke to in the past 10 days or so... that has some concrete proof that things aren't syncing up with the media's report? Or you believe everything is pretty much dead on to what they are saying? I mean... you seem like a very logical guy... with a lot of insight. Is there any story that you heard... that could be different from the media outlets?

                                                                    Anything that you question at all?

                                                                    Hey Shotter... you seem like a very logical guy... with a lot of insight. Do you really believe that the government orchestrated a 58-casualty mass suicide, then murdered a man to pin the whole thing on... and then dragged his dead body into frame for a picture, leaving a trail of blood for internet sleuths to find?
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                                                                    • TheMoneyShot
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 02-14-07
                                                                      • 28672

                                                                      #1644
                                                                      Originally posted by chargers4222
                                                                      Hey Shotter... you seem like a very logical guy... with a lot of insight. Do you really believe that the government orchestrated a 58-casualty mass suicide, then murdered a man to pin the whole thing on... and then dragged his dead body into frame for a picture, leaving a trail of blood for internet sleuths to find?
                                                                      Yes. The govt doesn't care about you or I. If we're in the way... we die.
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                                                                      • themike78
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 07-01-13
                                                                        • 4873

                                                                        #1645
                                                                        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                                        Yes. The govt doesn't care about you or I. If we're in the way... we die.
                                                                        You watch too many movies. Can I ask you something? Why would you live in country where the government is murdering people? Wouldn't it be safer in another country? I know if I really believed the government is committing mass murders of innocent people I sure as hell would not live in the United States any more.
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