Active shooter at Mandalay Bay
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A4KSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-08-12
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#421Comment -
A4KSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-08-12
- 5243
#422Why does everyone assume that this attack had anything to do with politics, what happened to the usual reasons? The dude might have worked for Mandalay Bay and got fired and went postal, maybe his old lady left him for another guy and he found out they were gonna be at the concert, maybe he really hates country music, maybe he's crazy and the voices in his head told him to do it, maybe he dropped some acid and got paranoid and freaked out, maybe he got himself into a deep hole gambling and decided to go out in a blaze.
Everybody seems to try to make everything fit their agendas, not everything that happens has anything to do with Trump, Hillary, Obama, Putin... Sometimes people are just crazy on their own and don't need politics to show it.Comment -
dlowillySBR Posting Legend
- 11-09-16
- 13862
#423True, but the majority of violence recently is political or religious. Only makes sense to think about it firstComment -
BigOrangeSBR Hall of Famer
- 08-13-09
- 6745
#424Isis has claimed responsibility. The fukkin idiot converted to Islam earlier this year.Comment -
shocka1212SBR Posting Legend
- 10-06-12
- 16788
#425This dumb fuk wanting to get shot
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BRUH !! 😳 dis dude really ready to die right now somebody help him. <br><br>prayers up for <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/lasvegas?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etf w">#lasvegas</a> 🙏🏽 <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/OWM0X6ZeN7">pic.twitter.com/OWM0X6ZeN7</a></p>— P L A Z A 🌐 (@Iamjplaza) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/Iamjplaza/status/914765048752611328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> October 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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jjsilver_123SBR Hustler
- 06-15-17
- 47
#428Why does everyone assume that this attack had anything to do with politics, what happened to the usual reasons? The dude might have worked for Mandalay Bay and got fired and went postal, maybe his old lady left him for another guy and he found out they were gonna be at the concert, maybe he really hates country music, maybe he's crazy and the voices in his head told him to do it, maybe he dropped some acid and got paranoid and freaked out, maybe he got himself into a deep hole gambling and decided to go out in a blaze.
Everybody seems to try to make everything fit their agendas, not everything that happens has anything to do with Trump, Hillary, Obama, Putin... Sometimes people are just crazy on their own and don't need politics to show it.Comment -
thetrinitySBR Posting Legend
- 01-25-11
- 22430
#429ISIS hasn't proven anything yet. Just a claim so far. I really thought that Asian woman was twisting his mind, but I guess not.Comment -
thetrinitySBR Posting Legend
- 01-25-11
- 22430
#430Trump is supposed to speak soonComment -
allingSBR MVP
- 05-13-10
- 1405
#431Why does everyone assume that this attack had anything to do with politics, what happened to the usual reasons? The dude might have worked for Mandalay Bay and got fired and went postal, maybe his old lady left him for another guy and he found out they were gonna be at the concert, maybe he really hates country music, maybe he's crazy and the voices in his head told him to do it, maybe he dropped some acid and got paranoid and freaked out, maybe he got himself into a deep hole gambling and decided to go out in a blaze.
Everybody seems to try to make everything fit their agendas, not everything that happens has anything to do with Trump, Hillary, Obama, Putin... Sometimes people are just crazy on their own and don't need politics to show it.Comment -
Roadtrip635SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-07-10
- 6129
#432Actually most acts of violence is about someone pissed off about their own life, their own choices or their own circumstances and blaming other people for it. It's easier to blame Trump or Obama, Muslims or Christians, Blacks or Whites, than to take responsibility for their own failures.Comment -
themike78SBR MVP
- 07-01-13
- 4873
#433Country music is awful and it does make people do crazy things. He probably just wanted to go to sleep and that god awful music kept him up.Comment -
Roadtrip635SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-07-10
- 6129
#434Comment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
- 63165
#435WASHINGTON — The House could pass legislation as early as this week that would roll back decades-old restrictions on gun silencers, opening up the market for a device that critics say would make it difficult in a mass shooting to detect where gunfire is coming from.
The House is also expected to move this fall on separate legislation that would allow people to carry their legally concealed weapons across state lines into jurisdictions, such as California, that tightly restrict weapons concealment.
The silencer measure is part of the Sportsmen Heritage and Recreational Enhancement Act, a broad-ranging gun bill delayed in June after House GOP Whip Steve Scalise, R-La., and two Capitol Hill police officers were wounded by a gunman who opened fire on a congressional baseball practice session.
Critics say silencers — called noise suppressors by supporters and heavily regulated by the federal government for more than eight decades — would make it harder for police officers to locate a shooter in an attack.
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“What it does is it disperses the sound, so you can’t identify where the sound is coming from,” said Rep. Mike Thompson, a St. Helena Democrat and avid hunter who opposes the bill. “It puts both law enforcement and the public at risk.”
But Republicans say the provision, called the Hearing Protection Act, doesn’t really silence the sound of gunfire, only diminishes it enough to shield hunters and recreational shooters from hearing damage.
“It isn’t a silencer because it still makes sound, but what it does is cuts the percentage of the noise down to make shooting sports a little nicer for people’s hearing,” said Rep. Doug LaMalfa, R-Richvale (Butte County).
“There’s a lot of false narrative being driven by this,” he said. “Anything to do with making guns more available or more convenient for people is going to find opposition by the left.”
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, said Republicans have the votes to pass both bills. Democrats can probably block them in the Senate with a filibuster, but the legislation shows the GOP in full pursuit of a pro-gun agenda despite a rise in mass shooting incidents, including one that struck their own.
On a broad basis, the 144-page bill seeks to loosen restrictions on hunting and shooting on public lands. It would, for example, reverse an Obama administration ban on lead tackle and ammunition from most federal lands; amend the Migratory Bird Treaty Act to allow shooting of birds over unharvested cropland; ease fishing restrictions in marine sanctuaries; remove Endangered Species Act protections for Great Lakes gray wolves; and ban the purchase of new wetland and bird habitat.
It would also legalize the sale of armor-piercing bullets so long as the manufacturer claims the ammunition is made for “sporting purposes.”
The legislation is a top priority for the National Rifle Association, while environmental groups and those pushing greater gun regulation are strongly opposed. A number of city police chiefs have signed a letter of opposition.
In their letter, the police chiefs said the main market for silencers now is “military tactical teams who use silencers to confuse the sound of gunfire and confound an enemy’s response to surprise attack.”
“The widespread and uncontrolled distribution of silencers to an unwary civilian population, combined with the sheer number of firearms freely available in America,” the letter said, “is a step in the wrong direction and will result in tragedy, including violence directed at police officers that will be difficult or impossible to investigate effectively.”
The second major weapons legislation the House is planning to consider separately this fall would allow people to carry concealed weapons in any state if it is allowed in the state where they live.
The bill would undermine regulations in states such as California and New York that require applicants for such a permit to demonstrate a need and submit to background checks. A dozen states have no permit requirement for carrying a concealed weapon.
Thompson, who has led a Democratic task force to reduce gun violence since the 2012 Sandy Hook elementary school shooting, said the bill “would allow people to carry their guns wherever they wanted to carry them.”
Republicans are advertising the bills “under a facade of, ‘It’s for hunters,’” Pelosi said. “Hunters need armor-piercing bullets? They need silencers? They need to conceal and carry to hunt?”
The House Natural Resources Committee approved the Sportsman Heritage and Recreational Enhancement Act, known as the Share Act, last month on a party-line vote, with four California Republicans — LaMalfa, Tom McClintock of Elk Grove (Sacramento County), Paul Cook of Yucca Valley (San Bernardino County) and Jeff Denham of Turlock (Stanislaus County) — joining the majority.
The National Rifle Association said versions of the bill have passed the House before, but that this one is “the most ambitious and consequential yet,” in part because of the silencer provision. A key backer is Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, who appeared in a video touting their use to increase hearing safety and also get “little kids into the game” because the devices reduce a gun’s recoil.
Critics argue that gun sales have slumped since Trump’s election, leading gunmakers to look for a new source of revenue, and they have found one in silencers.
“If you buy one, you’ve got to buy a gun to put it on, because the barrel’s got to be threaded,” Thompson said.
Silencers, like machine guns, have been strictly regulated since 1934 under the National Firearms Act, in response to mob killings. Current law requires buyers to submit fingerprints and a photograph, pay a special tax, submit to a background check and notify local law enforcement.
“No one who is willing to go through the process has a problem obtaining one,” said Peter Ambler, executive director of Americans for Responsible Solutions, a gun violence prevention organization founded by former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was gravely wounded in a gun attack in 2011.
But because of the regulation, Ambler said, “you see remarkably few crimes committed with silencers or machine guns, compared to guns writ large, where our current laws are inadequate to deal with crimes being committed by them.”
Ambler’s group is putting pressure on seven California House Republicans representing districts that Hillary Clinton won last November, releasing polls showing that both bills are unpopular in their districts.
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388179
#436Trump is going WednesdayComment -
allingSBR MVP
- 05-13-10
- 1405
#438Comment -
dlowillySBR Posting Legend
- 11-09-16
- 13862
#439Actually most acts of violence is about someone pissed off about their own life, their own choices or their own circumstances and blaming other people for it. It's easier to blame Trump or Obama, Muslims or Christians, Blacks or Whites, than to take responsibility for their own failures.Comment -
The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-25-11
- 28918
#440Well, as cuser would say, it has begun
You boys have fun trying to convince each other that you’re rightComment -
JMobileSBR Posting Legend
- 08-21-10
- 19074
#441Is Bobby ok though?Comment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
- 44709
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388179
#444whoever rented room to him could be fukked if they knew him
That chick he was with might of worked thereComment -
khicks26SBR Aristocracy
- 09-16-06
- 45593
#447Why does everyone assume that this attack had anything to do with politics, what happened to the usual reasons? The dude might have worked for Mandalay Bay and got fired and went postal, maybe his old lady left him for another guy and he found out they were gonna be at the concert, maybe he really hates country music, maybe he's crazy and the voices in his head told him to do it, maybe he dropped some acid and got paranoid and freaked out, maybe he got himself into a deep hole gambling and decided to go out in a blaze.
Everybody seems to try to make everything fit their agendas, not everything that happens has anything to do with Trump, Hillary, Obama, Putin... Sometimes people are just crazy on their own and don't need politics to show it.
George Orwell.Comment -
The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-25-11
- 28918
#448Oh common Brooks, no need to edit, you're not hurting anyones feelings
Lets be real, we already know the narrative here. This will come as a huge surprise to everyone that knew him. He's likely a polarized political guy that falls far left or right on the spectrum. He's full of hate. Instead of directing that anger and hate in the right direction, he took the easy road, loaded up on rifles and shot fish in a barrel. Fukking coward. Too bad he died so quickly.
I get that people are full of anger right now but why a random shooting? What does that do to right wrongs? If he was an avid Hillary guy, why not go do this at a Trump rally, or if he's a trump guy why not go to a BLM rally and do this? At least direct it towards the people you hate and feel wronged by.
But to shoot up a bunch of concert goers? WTFComment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83686
#449This guy had assault riffles and just unloaded clips on a concert crowd from a hotel casino room.. WOW.. That was clever and opens up a whole new level of terrorism....
Gotta get these assault riffles out of cities somehow, gotta get these extreme Muslims out too... That kinda fire power in any city is deadly.. Speechless, just woke up and seeing this now..Comment -
A4KSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-08-12
- 5243
#450Oh common Brooks, no need to edit, you're not hurting anyones feelings
Lets be real, we already know the narrative here. This will come as a huge surprise to everyone that knew him. He's likely a polarized political guy that falls far left or right on the spectrum. He's full of hate. Instead of directing that anger and hate in the right direction, he took the easy road, loaded up on rifles and shot fish in a barrel. Fukking coward. Too bad he died so quickly.
I get that people are full of anger right now but why a random shooting? What does that do to right wrongs? If he was an avid Hillary guy, why not go do this at a Trump rally, or if he's a trump guy why not go to a BLM rally and do this? At least direct it towards the people you hate and feel wronged by.
But to shoot up a bunch of concert goers? WTFComment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
- 44709
#451Oh common Brooks, no need to edit, you're not hurting anyones feelings
Lets be real, we already know the narrative here. This will come as a huge surprise to everyone that knew him. He's likely a polarized political guy that falls far left or right on the spectrum. He's full of hate. Instead of directing that anger and hate in the right direction, he took the easy road, loaded up on rifles and shot fish in a barrel. Fukking coward. Too bad he died so quickly.
I get that people are full of anger right now but why a random shooting? What does that do to right wrongs? If he was an avid Hillary guy, why not go do this at a Trump rally, or if he's a trump guy why not go to a BLM rally and do this? At least direct it towards the people you hate and feel wronged by.
But to shoot up a bunch of concert goers? WTFComment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83686
#452This shooter has an American name.. Maybe just a crazy guy and not Islamic.. Anyone confirm?Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388179
#453Interesting he used two different windows to fire out ofComment -
khicks26SBR Aristocracy
- 09-16-06
- 45593
#454
a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophreniaComment -
Roadtrip635SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-07-10
- 6129
#455
He may have been pissed that OJ just got released for all we know.Comment
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