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05-13-12 04:43 PM #1
Obama Offered Former Pastor $150,000 To Stay Quiet During 2008 Campaign
Nomination(s):This post was nominated 2 times . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: ttwarrior1, and TankHankerous
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05-13-12 06:31 PM #2
In b4 house niggga
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05-13-12 06:44 PM #3
Are you one of those racist Nazi people??
Originally Posted by TankHankerous
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05-13-12 08:54 PM #4
Think about how much it cost them to cover up his birth certificate.
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05-13-12 08:58 PM #5
*Facepalm* Originally Posted by Carseller4
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05-13-12 09:00 PM #6
The only TRUE thang in the video IMO is his mama aint voting for a gay loving black man. Multiply her by all of the old black folks
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05-13-12 09:02 PM #7
Originally Posted by Sam Odom
The only TRUE thang in the video IMO is his mama aint voting for a gay loving black man. Multiply her by all of the old black folks
That one is good.
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05-13-12 09:07 PM #8
lol Originally Posted by Sam Odom
The only TRUE thang in the video IMO is his mama aint voting for a gay loving black man. Multiply her by all of the old black folks
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05-13-12 09:08 PM #9
That Newsweek Cover is NOT a joke...
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05-13-12 09:13 PM #10
you're right...no joke:
http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AtmC_4Y...qUE5fxW9gHgkI-
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05-13-12 09:13 PM #11
Haha totally not...how i love mass media Originally Posted by Sam Odom
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05-13-12 09:14 PM #12
Incredible IMO "The First Gay President" With an Halo
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05-13-12 09:17 PM #13
If only McCain offered Palin to do the same, the repubs wouldn't be up in arms, pretending things would be significantly different.
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05-13-12 09:21 PM #14
C Dog... I know Newsweek thinks they are helping Obama...
i dont see how this helps him in:
Missouri
Ind
Ohio
Virgina
N.Car
Fla
The swing states
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05-13-12 09:25 PM #15
I get all my news from YouTube.
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05-13-12 09:31 PM #16
No idea really. Haven't really looked at the angle yet. As a person who supports allowing anyone regardless of sexual preference to enter into contractual misery, I am just happy to see him stop pulling the Christian bullshit. Originally Posted by Sam Odom
I do know that a large percentage of the population knows someone who is gay, and as a result, regardless of political affiliation agree with Obama.
As far as I am concerned, this was done far enough out, to not really effect the election. It could also be an attempt to back Romney into a religious zealot corner.
Christians are going to have a hard time voting for a guy who believes the Garden of Eden is in Jackson County, Missouri. And, furthermore, God turned the skin color of non-believers to red (i.e. - modern day Indians).
Christians are not a fan of that faith.
In short, I would guess this was an attempt to give Romney some rope to hang himself, without bothering his base whatsoever.
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05-13-12 09:36 PM #17
This gay thing will unite those hardliners behind Romney whereas he was on shaky ground with'em - We shall see...
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05-13-12 09:52 PM #18
Never know. The nut ***** on either side, wont move over, regardless. Romney can say he enjoys getting his shit pushed in, and the republican hardliners wouldn't vote for Obama. Originally Posted by Sam Odom
Finesse that edges.
Ton of undecideds, that don't have a clue about politics, and only take notice of huge headlines, or something that generates talk at the water cooler. Only way a majority of apathetic Americans hear about issues.
Gay marriage is overwhelmingly popular. Turning into a valence issue.
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05-13-12 09:55 PM #19
Originally Posted by ChalkyDog
where did you get that Idea ? what's the win/loss record when put before State voters ?
National Polls are a coin toss
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05-13-12 10:03 PM #20
I literally know not a single person opposed to it. Originally Posted by Sam Odom
where did you get that Idea ? what's the win/loss record when put before State voters ?
National Polls are a coin toss
The only people that are opposed are religious zealots or painfully uneducated.
This being an issue is laughable. Especially with the current real issues that face the country. Who gives a fukk?
Same bullshit when everyone was in a uproar about Clinton getting a blowjob. The failure to focus on things that matter is the undoing of this nation.
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05-13-12 10:08 PM #21
Originally Posted by ChalkyDog
Personally I dont care... Have friends who are gay
But... those religious zealots or painfully uneducated will vote when Jesus is under attack (sorta joking but not really)
I believe when put to the voters in States gay marriage is 0-31 in passing
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05-13-12 10:13 PM #22
You must not get out much. Originally Posted by ChalkyDog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-se..._United_States
There have been 31 state elections regarding gay marriage. The only won that passed in favor of it was Arizona, and that was just to allow Arizona to recognize gay marriages from other states, not to legalize it there.
In these elections there was a total of 59,088,713 voters, of that 34,514,361 voted against it. That is about 58.5% opposition.
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05-13-12 10:14 PM #23
I see you quoting polls often. I don't know if things have changed. When I was in undergrad, I worked for various political campaigns, on bot sides of the aisle, and did the whole phone polling for a long time. Originally Posted by Sam Odom
Back then, hell, especially 4 years ago, poll were insanely skewed. Their inherent flaw is the fact that the numbers used to poll, were all landlines. I don't know about you - but only person I know with a landline is my parents and mother-in-law. Point being, the demographic being polled were either older (i.e. still haven't gone wireless) or rural (just look at the stats for the 2008 election, and rural was overwhelmingly red).
Bottom line, polls used to be skewed painfully right.
I don't know if they use the internet now, or are able to call cell phones, or if they are still stuck using landlines. If it is the latter, I would move whatever poll you see about 5-10 points left come voting day, depending on the issue.
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05-13-12 10:16 PM #24
C Dog , that 0-31 is real results from elections
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05-13-12 10:17 PM #25
I'll admit, I don't go out often. I live in a painfully regressive state (Arizona), and my boss, and the majority of the firm are either Mormon or church going Christians, and not a single person in this firm - about 20 in all, are against gay marriage. Originally Posted by Carseller4
They take the apathetic stance that you see from Odom. Who knows what they do in the privacy of the voting booth. But publicly, there is not a person I know who is against gay marriage.
DOMA is garbage.
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05-13-12 10:18 PM #26
Propositions are painful or the average joe. About 10-15% of the voting public know what they are voting for when they are voting on props. Originally Posted by Sam Odom
Outside of specific tax ones that I pay attention to, and legalization of Marijuana, I tend to not care.
I do mail it in though, and sit down and look up the props briefly before I vote, but I guarantee I am in the minority.
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05-13-12 10:25 PM #27
A female co-worker and friend of my wife is a lez. She is in her late 40s and a RN at the hospital
5 yrs ago she fell in love with a 23yo gal - they lived together for 3 yrs and the youngster never worked, just attended a FEW post grad classes
They broke-up... My wife's co-worker had to pay the gold digger 1200.00 month for maintenance for 24 months.
Bottom line: The Lez told us , "fuk that shit" y'all straight guys can keep this love/marriage thing. She dates now but no more 'Life Partners' in California
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05-13-12 10:38 PM #28
Hummm...... These Dems can read the tea leaves
Vulnerable Democratic senators balk at Obama's gay marriage endorsement
Senate Democrats facing difficult reelections are breaking with President Obama’s endorsement of same-sex marriage, a sign the issue is politically dangerous in battleground states.
Sens. Jon Tester (Mont.) and Claire McCaskill (Mo.), the two most vulnerable Democratic senators, have declined to endorse Obama’s call for the legalization of gay marriage.
Sens. Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Bob Casey (Pa.) and Bill Nelson (Fla.), Democrats who have easier races but in states that could become more competitive by November, have also backed away from Obama’s stance.They all represent states with constitutional amendments or laws banning same-sex marriage.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/2...f-gay-marriage
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05-13-12 10:45 PM #29
Evangelicals are going to come out for Romney, but this will not only get virtually every gay voter to show up at the polls, but also re-energize the young lib crowd. Obama was going to have a really tough sell on his hands with NDAA, but he's going to make this election into Romney's sterile Mormon weirdness vs. rights for women/gays/minorities etc.
The man is a brilliant pol. Lesser of two evils isn't enough for me though, so I'm for Jill Stein.
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05-14-12 07:54 AM #30
Obama has thrown his hands in the air. He doesn't want to be re elected. Just lost the bible belt with those comments.
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05-14-12 08:02 AM #31
I think Obama is not getting the fundraising that he anticpated, so he came out in favor of it to get some more Hollywood and other far left contributions.
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05-14-12 08:46 AM #32
That's certainly a valid choice for her to make, but shouldn't it be her choice? Originally Posted by Sam Odom
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05-14-12 09:07 AM #33
umm if theyre Mormon (practicing that is) then they are opposed to gay marriage. If they arent then they arent really LDS thats for sure. Originally Posted by ChalkyDog
Obama is about 7 or 8 years too late to the Gay train. Back when gay was cool and chic he might have gotten away with it. When TV was throwing anything gay they could on TV and really trying to make it cool.
While there is more mainstream acceptance and coverage of gay things going on it isnt as cool and chic as it used to be, having straight people pretending to be gay to be more popular.
The thing about gay and homosexual stuff is that it is all fine and dandy until you REALLY think about it. Except of course for pervs who like lesbo porn and think all gay women look and act like that. But think of Rosie O Donnel and whatever beast she is munching on if you want to solve that daydream.
While MARRIAGE isnt a shadow of what it used to be the last bastion of its definition is that it is still (supposed) to be between a man and a woman. As far it goes now these homosexual couples have every LEGAL right that traditional couple have. Since marriage for the most part these days is a legal contract entered into by two people they should be satisfied. But it is just another cause for a 'minority' to get behind and sucker or guilt trip others into backing because they want to cause a 'revolution'.
The irony is they have the legal version, but they seem to want the 'religious' under tones. Which no matter what anyone says is against true religion.
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05-14-12 12:19 PM #34
Originally Posted by d2bets
If you mean should Gay Marriage be her choice... It is up to the states to decide if she has that choice - There are tons of things people are restricted from because of Law in its various forms
But my point in that post : Some gays realize Gay Marriage is a double edged sword and arent 100% wholeheartedly in fav of it
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05-14-12 02:49 PM #35
It's more than a state issue, it's a federal issue too. A state may allow same-sex marriage, but what if it doesn't apply for federal tax purposes? Not the same. The Fed Govt needs to get rid of DOMA and say that if a state recognized your marriage then the Fed Govt will as well. Originally Posted by Sam Odom
And it's not a double-edged sword for anyone. Nobody is forced to enter into any marriage.
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