NFL opening night ratings down 12% or more

**VeggieDog** · 09-08-17, 11:37 AM

Protests. Unjustified suspensions. Brain injuries.

**newguy** · 09-08-17, 11:56 AM

Half of the south is worried about Irma. Texas still worried about Harvey. I'll admit I didn't watch it. Tired of hearing about hurricane (and i live on flo east coast) so just watched Netflix to get minds off it. I'm sure we weren't alone.

**Foxx** · 09-08-17, 12:42 PM

I watched. I also remain seated on the couch during the anthem.

**milwaukee mike** · 09-08-17, 01:08 PM

it's not just the nfl... ratings are down for most things, as millenials cut the cord and just don't watch as much tv/don't go to as many movies/don't go to the mall/etc

look at the vma's... ratings are 1/2 what they were just 3 years ago

**jjgold** · 09-08-17, 04:40 PM

I think Mike is right people are not watching much as they used to I don't even watch sports like I used other than tennis

**Roadtrip635** · 09-08-17, 04:49 PM

I'd rather Peters sit down than have to witness this.

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**reigle9** · 09-08-17, 04:57 PM

stopped watching when goodell took over...shit is gay af

**WWCD** · 09-08-17, 05:03 PM

People are turned off by the reality show bs.

I watch the NFL to watch football, that's it. I don't care who is singing the anthem, stands, who sits, the halftime show, Black history, politics, etc.

**RudyRuetigger** · 09-08-17, 05:14 PM

I'm not sure why, not even excited for nfl this year

I always wondered why old guys would go to high school football games

now I see why

**WWCD** · 09-08-17, 05:17 PM

My guess is that the Old guys go to high school games to look at the high school girls.

**reigle9** · 09-08-17, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by WWCD

My guess is that the Old guys go to high school games to look at the high school girls.

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**reigle9** · 09-08-17, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by reigle9

stopped watching when goodell took over

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**lakerboy** · 09-08-17, 06:33 PM

No need to watch sports until the playoffs

**Rich Boy** · 09-08-17, 06:34 PM

NFL has become a pussified circus over the years

I miss the good ol days of hard nosed football.

Guys like Randy Moss, TO, Ochocinco, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Manning

Players now are a bunch of jagoffs

**lakerboy** · 09-08-17, 06:38 PM

Patriot's ruining the league. No one cares anymore. People sick of the Billy and Tom show. The team wins but they are so boring.

**jjgold** · 09-08-17, 06:42 PM

Some think the ghetto players ruined it

**shady610** · 09-08-17, 06:50 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

it's doing what baseball did when they went steroid coverage 24/7. all the side stories are taking away interest in the actual game.

**2daBank** · 09-08-17, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by Rich Boy

NFL has become a pussified circus over the years

I miss the good ol days of hard nosed football.

Guys like Randy Moss, TO, Ochocinco, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Manning

Players now are a bunch of jagoffs

ever since the rules all starting changing to emphasize offense and legislate out hitting cause of "concussions" (more like cause fantasy and the masses love high scoring games) in the early 2000s game has went totally down hill.. little freaking 170lb dudes ain't afraid to go across the middle, qbs protected at all cost yet paid more than ever, every attempt to play defense results in some type of penalty.

I've always loved football but think it far less enjoyable now as the worst part of all these rule changes or "emphasizing" of some rules as they say is the fact that it has given the officials far far far too much say in deciding the outcomes of games..

I like playing fantasy fb too so guess I'm partly responsible but I'd be fine playing it without everyone putting up fraudulent stat lines achieved by most cause of all the changes made to allow for such..

I miss the days of hard nosed football where you had to be a grown ass man to go across the middle or stand in the face of pressure in the pocket knowing you were at risk of being crushed.

**JMobile** · 09-08-17, 07:11 PM

Texas and Florida residents don't have TV.

What does the ratings think that happened?

**krk1030** · 09-08-17, 07:14 PM

Hard to watch football when your house is underwater.

**Roadtrip635** · 09-08-17, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Some think the ghetto players ruined it

The league ruined it themselves with over-officiating, over-regulating, games have become too long due to commercials and trying to interpret the rules, they stopped viewing sports as the entertainment business that it was meant to be. The League themselves actively sought to become Social Justice Warriors before the Kaeps of the world starting kneeling during the anthem.

It used to be easy to determine what is a catch, now you need a team of lawyers just to define the wording of the rule and nobody is still really sure. Players were getting penalized for celebration dances, because we all know dancing is a huge problem. The league sought to highlight and promote social issues instead of promoting the fun of the sport. The league brought this upon themselves, they lost sight of what the sport was supposed to be about.

**Cuse0323** · 09-08-17, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by reigle9

stopped watching when goodell took over...shit is gay af

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It hasn't been the same since the clown took over.

I couldn't give a shit about players sitting really. Think it's dumb, but yeah. When they started throwing flags to touching a QB on the head, and ridiculous shit then I just don't care unless I have money on it.

Bullshit Colts/Titans game. Paco will know.

**lakerboy** · 09-08-17, 07:20 PM

Football was done when running backs became irrelevant. Guess who started that problem?

**Cuse0323** · 09-08-17, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by Roadtrip635

The league ruined it themselves with over-officiating, over-regulating, games have become too long due to commercials and trying to interpret the rules, they stopped viewing sports as the entertainment business that it was meant to be. The League themselves actively sought to become Social Justice Warriors before the Kaeps of the world starting kneeling during the anthem.

It used to be easy to determine what is a catch, now you need a team of lawyers just to define the wording of the rule and nobody is still really sure. Players were getting penalized for celebration dances, because we all know dancing is a huge problem. The league sought to highlight and promote social issues instead of promoting the fun of the sport. The league brought this upon themselves, they lost sight of what the sport was supposed to be about.

Nailed it. The times of fun are over. No more TO with popcorn, or Joe Horn grabbing a cell phone.

If a player ducks their head, and accidentally gets hit then penalty.

What's a catch? Let's look for 20 minutes to find out.

Shit is just penalties, and commercials.

**Roadtrip635** · 09-08-17, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Cuse0323

Nailed it. The times of fun are over. No more TO with popcorn, or Joe Horn grabbing a cell phone.

If a player ducks their head, and accidentally gets hit then penalty.

What's a catch? Let's look for 20 minutes to find out.

Shit is just penalties, and commercials.

I saw a study during the NFL playoffs that showed that there is roughly 17 minutes of actual action, from the time the ball is snapped/kicked to when the whistle is blown to stop the play, but games last 3.5 hours. The league screwed themselves and are trying to blame some guy sitting during a song, for their lagging ratings.

**GunShard** · 09-08-17, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

No need to watch sports until the playoffs

I also do that but with NBA, NHL and MLB.

**DrUppercut** · 09-08-17, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Rich Boy

NFL has become a pussified circus over the years

I miss the good ol days of hard nosed football.

Guys like Randy Moss, TO, Ochocinco, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Manning

Players now are a bunch of jagoffs

Lol at the idea of Randy moss being a hard nosed football player. Great yes hard nosed...no way

**2daBank** · 09-08-17, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Roadtrip635

I saw a study during the NFL playoffs that showed that there is roughly 17 minutes of actual action, from the time the ball is snapped/kicked to when the whistle is blown to stop the play, but games last 3.5 hours. The league screwed themselves and are trying to blame some guy sitting during a song, for their lagging ratings.

Can pretty much see whole game in 30 minutes in those condensed versions..

**lakerboy** · 09-08-17, 08:31 PM

American sports are ruined because of tv timeouts. The teams need too many timeouts as well. It's all bullshit

**2daBank** · 09-08-17, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

American sports are ruined because of tv timeouts. The teams need too many timeouts as well. It's all bullshit

Only way I can actually watch attentively is with about 4 games going at a time, even then still run into having a freaking commercial on every one of stinking games a few times.. . usually shit just on the tv and I'm not really paying any attention normally doing something else.

**DwightShrute** · 09-08-17, 08:49 PM

fukking assholes bringing politics into the game. People turn on the games to get away from all the 24/7 politics and nonsense that has plagued so much in society. I think that has a lot to do with it.

**lakerboy** · 09-08-17, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

fukking assholes bringing politics into the game. People turn on the games to get away from all the 24/7 politics and nonsense that has plagued so much in society. I think that has a lot to do with it.

I disagree. That anthem and kneeling team prayer nonsense is usually not something that the average tv fan watches. The game isn't good anymore.

**DwightShrute** · 09-08-17, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

American sports are ruined because of tv timeouts. The teams need too many timeouts as well. It's all bullshit

I know what you mean but that has a lot to do with the fans. They complained for years about how the refs suck and we need more instant replays. Now we have it. Challenge flags, then every scoring play inside 2 minutes is automatically reviewed, then every scoring play automatically reviewed. Heck, in the CFL you can challenge pass interference now. You want it you got it.

Originally posted by lakerboy

I disagree. That anthem and kneeling team prayer nonsense is usually not something that the average tv fan watches. The game isn't good anymore.

I think the game is as good as its ever been. Has there even been more parity?

**lakerboy** · 09-08-17, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

I know what you mean but that has a lot to do with the fans. They complained for years about how the refs suck and we need more instant replays. Now we have it. Challenge flags, then every scoring play inside 2 minutes is automatically reviewed, then every scoring play automatically reviewed. Heck, in the CFL you can challenge pass interference now. You want it you got it.

I think the game is as good as its ever been. Has there even been more parity?

Yeah so much for parity. The pats , Seahawks and the packers are in the playoffs every year.