[SBRPicks]

SBR Moderator Reload and Peter Loshak discuss the 2012 Kentucky Derby, giving picks and leans on matchup props.


Part 1: Discussing The Favorites





Part 2: Picks and Matchup Props

[Justin_sane]

Who is this joker?
He mentions Dullahan as his pick and how he has been over the Churchill surface 3 times but fails to mention he is O-ferrrr. Lengths beaten 6,7,8.

[str]

Who is this joker?
He mentions Dullahan as his pick and how he has been over the Churchill surface 3 times but fails to mention he is O-ferrrr. Lengths beaten 6,7,8.

That " joker" is one hell of a class act that takes many hours of his time to put together contests that I along with many others here have really enjoyed over the years.
You might not agree with his pick, but show a little respect if you will.
Why not give people your opinion and a reason why on the race and help others better understand the logic that handicappers use to formulate their picks? That's what Reload did. I think that it is darn nice of him to take the time to do so.

[Justin_sane]

Didn't bash his pick. He's just mis-informing ppl IMO.
I just went a little further and mentioned Dullahan has performed miserably on the Churchill dirt. That's all.

[Reload]

[jjgold]

Relaod looks like he just got out of fukkin prison man
I met this guy a few times and he has fukkin changed considerably
What happened to him???

Loshak has a fukin stain on his suit jacket????
Kid is something else, same jacket from 6 years ago

[Reload]

Relaod looks like he just got out of fukkin prison man
I met this guy a few times and he has fukkin changed considerably
What happened to him???

Loshak has a fukin stain on his suit jacket????
Kid is something else, same jacket from 6 years ago

[John Ryan]

From John Ryan: SBR contributor:

This race has veteran trainers such as D. Wayne Lukas, saddling his 45th Derby horse, the 50-1 Optimizer, and the current big-dog trainers, Todd Pletcher and Steve Asmussen, who both have top contenders. Pletcher's Gemologist (6-1 odds) is undefeated in five career starts. The distance is not supposed to be an issue for this son of Tiznow. Asmussen's Daddy Nose Best (15-1) has gotten a lot of Derby week buzz, and is another late-runner.
Fans of oddball owners and gray speed horses hit the exacta with Hansen. The horse, champion 2-year-old after nipping Union Rags in the Breeders Cup Juvenile, is named for the owner, Kendall Hansen, a Kentucky pain-management doctor who tried to paint his horse's tail blue for the Blue Grass Stakes - damn right, he's a UK fan - and throws out Hansen dolls to fans at the track.
The real speed should come from 50-1 Trinniberg, who could present problems for Hansen and any other horse who tries to keep up. However, Trinniberg has never run longer than seven furlongs. He may be going backward for those three additional furlongs.
Don't look for Union Rags to be among the early speedsters. There are questions about his pedigree for the 11/4-mile distance, although second dam Terpsichorist was a distance horse. His sire, former Haskell winner Dixie Union, excelled a little short of the mile and quarter.
The colt's dam, Tempo, brings sentimental pedigree as well, since Union Rags is not just owned by Wyeth, but bred by her, a family affair since Tempo was sired by Gone West, owned by Wyeth's parents.


so, Take hanson at 10:1 and Bodemeister at 4:1 to place .. and then Union Rages to show.. So, an exacta and trifecta as outlined with a solo bet on Hanson to win.

[Kindred]

Creative Cause

[CarpeDime]

Loshak has a fukin stain on his suit jacket????
Kid is something else, same jacket from 6 years ago

exCUSE ME??

stain on my jacket?? and where exactly, pray tell, do you see a stain on my jacket you fuk??

your just fukin JEALOUS because i can pull off a SOPFISTICATED UPPER CLASS gentelmen look with cuff links and pink in the shirt and you could never pull off that kind of look

[Jayvegas420]

Who is this joker?
He mentions Dullahan as his pick and how he has been over the Churchill surface 3 times but fails to mention he is O-ferrrr. Lengths beaten 6,7,8.

If youre gonna calla guy out for his picks before the race runs, at least have the decency to provide a pick yourself. So we can mock you after the race, only seems fair.
Anyway, I don't like his picks either. I am going with Pletcher's horses & Wayne Lukas' horse & disregarding Asmussen's horses & Baffert's horses.
Nothing scientific about it.
At least I made a pick
GEMOLOGIST.

Optomizer


El Padrino

[Justin_sane]

If youre gonna calla guy out for his picks before the race runs, at least have the decency to provide a pick yourself. So we can mock you after the race, only seems fair.
Anyway, I don't like his picks either. I am going with Pletcher's horses & Wayne Lukas' horse & disregarding Asmussen's horses & Baffert's horses.
Nothing scientific about it.
At least I made a pick
GEMOLOGIST.

Optomizer


El Padrino

And when did I ever say I didn't like his pick? Learn how to fuckkin read

[CarpeDime]

thanks loader

had fukin doolihans in a bunch of fukin matchup props, fukin cashed em all

took creative cause 4-1 to show at heritage, only big loser

killed it with matchup props though, THANKS PAL

[Reload]

thanks loader

had fukin doolihans in a bunch of fukin matchup props, fukin cashed em all

took creative cause 4-1 to show at heritage, only big loser

killed it with matchup props though, THANKS PAL

Glad the matchups cashed, Peter! Mine did well also - Dullahan over Gemologist, and Daddy Nose Best over Take Charge Indy.

[Jayvegas420]

Who is this joker?
He mentions Dullahan as his pick and how he has been over the Churchill surface 3 times but fails to mention he is O-ferrrr. Lengths beaten 6,7,8.

So, when you like someone's picks, this is the type of post you leave.
stop posting donk.

Reload, turned out to be good picks after all.
Hope you had a show bet on your horse!
GL in the Preak!

[Justin_sane]

So, when you like someone's picks, this is the type of post you leave.
stop posting donk.

Reload, turned out to be good picks after all.
Hope you had a show bet on your horse!
GL in the Preak!

Ur too stupid to realize I was bashing his bet, not his horse. A bet against a horse that had never been worse then....um....1st! and he was only getting +135

And his pick was 0/3 on the dirt, all at Churchill. I'd love to book anyones bets using that logic.