[19th Hole]

ultimately this debate doesnt matter, only way that the usa could make room for soccer is to have a league on par with the premier league, la liga, or serie a. this is likely never going to happen in our lifetimes at least. people r never going to love these other leagues since they play in the middle of the afternoon during the week and like at 6am on saturday, also theyll likely never attend one of these matches in their lives.

You're assuming Americans could actually give a sh!t about the quality of soccer being played
here or elsewhere. .
Being a connoisseur of soccer is like being a connoisseur of farts....

[Vitooch]

Only way to settle it then. American football players would destroy European football players. Baseball players would kill soccer players too.

Destroy them in what? Hand to hand combat? What's your point?

[thetrinity]

You're assuming Americans could actually give a sh!t about the quality of soccer being played
here or elsewhere. .
Being a connoisseur of soccer is like being a connoisseur of farts....

they would actually. check the world cup ratings for 2014 in brazil when games are actually going to be live in primetime, not on at noon on tuesdays. if they didnt care about soccer at all you wouldnt get a game like the champions league final on fox, you would get a seinfield episode or some stupid movie instead.

[showtiime]

can u link to me to one of these lock threads i made? no you cant because i never made one

c'mon lunchie, do you really want me to dig up these threads & waste my time, no I won't - but I also won't not respond to this just because you don't want to be seen as telling porky pies. you may be nitpicking here because I used the term 'lock', but I would struggle to count the amount of threads you've posted on both hands touting 'pound this, pound that' over in the soccer forum since the turn of the year, unless of course someone else has the username 'lunchbawks' with the same amount of posts as yourself, if that is the case then sweep it under the rug because it's all a misunderstanding.

[gregm]

This is why Americans routinely just accept such poor options for wagering, most of these guys probably have no idea of the volume on soccer match or even know the first thing about betfair or the kind of volume sbobet may get on a soccer match or even the kind of action Happy valley in asia will get on horse races compared to american horse racing.

Its all about markets and compare how Euro books can sponsor tennis tournaments like bet at home does, or sponsor soccer clubs like bwin and real madrid, boylesports and sunderland, mansion and tottenham,etc. Bwin even sponsors motogp races, you see sportsbook advertising everywhere at sporting events. It is a totally different world where sportsbooks and gambling is regulated.

In America , maybe we have accepted this situation because alot of people just dont know anything different. I bet alot of these young guys dont even remember when Americans had access to pinnacle,neteller,matchbook and most of the books around the world.

Gambling in Europe and Asia and most of the world is just regulated and controlled and is on a totally different level and most Americans without friends or agents without access to euro books are forced to deal with these US facing books and their usually miserable lines and options.

[showtiime]

like the input there greggles

[MileHigh_Broncos]

You have obviously never played baseball. Throwing 100+ pitches requires very good endurance. In the summer, I'd be chugging water and still sometimes I would have cramps in my arms, legs, oblique during a 6 or 7 inning start. I wasn't a fat kid, weighed like 170 but I would still lose 7-8 pounds pitching a full game during the summer.

I don't care what your fat out of shape glory baseball days were like

Sitting in a dugout with water for 50+% of a game ain't no sport you sizzzie!
According to your theory: walking the slops and valleys and swing a golf club in dubai's 40degree heat is excretion enough to consider golf an endurance/cardio sport

[MileHigh_Broncos]

I love and watch all the US sports religiously, but when you get this kind of atmosphere at any US sport, then it can be compared to soccer.

[19th Hole]

What's the big deal....Adolf Hitler produced bigger cheers and bigger crowds.
Just goes to show what kind of pablum Eurotrash will eat!1
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I love and watch all the US sports religiously, but when you get this kind of atmosphere at any US sport, then it can be compared to soccer.

[frogsrangers]

Only time I watch soccer is the world cup or when USA is playing in an important international match(i.e. Gold Cup). Apart from that, I'd rather watch my town's water tower rust.

[a4u2fear]

Soccer is boring, I can usually tune in at 80' and see most of the action

[MileHigh_Broncos]

What's the big deal....Adolf Hitler produced bigger cheers and bigger crowds.
Just goes to show what kind of pablum Eurotrash will eat!1
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What's your point? Seems like your typical uniformed useless trash.
That atmosphere is not comparable to the american biased crum that know no better.

Interesting article here--- follow the money.
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7...-espn-magazine

[19th Hole]

[QUOTE=MileHigh_Broncos;14619492]What's your point? Seems like your typical uniformed useless trash.
That atmosphere is not comparable to the american biased crum that know no better.

Interesting article here--- follow the money.

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What's your point dipstick? Smokin' that MileHigh ditch weed??

Just goes to show that Eurotrash are an emotional lot.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

I don't care what your fat out of shape glory baseball days were like

Sitting in a dugout with water for 50+% of a game ain't no sport you sizzzie!
According to your theory: walking the slops and valleys and swing a golf club in dubai's 40degree heat is excretion enough to consider golf an endurance/cardio sport

LOL... you do realize that at any given point in a soccer match, half of the people on the field are walking/barely jogging, right?

[PickWinnerAllDay]

I don't care what your fat out of shape glory baseball days were like

Sitting in a dugout with water for 50+% of a game ain't no sport you sizzzie!
According to your theory: walking the slops and valleys and swing a golf club in dubai's 40degree heat is excretion enough to consider golf an endurance/cardio sport

You've obviously never played baseball at a high level. Pitching and catching takes a ton of energy out of you. There is a reason a pitcher can only start once every 5th day, it isn't just the shoulder trouble, he needs the other days to rest his legs/torso as well.

[BigTimeWinner]

LOL... you do realize that at any given point in a soccer match, half of the people on the field are walking/barely jogging, right?

LOL thats why you dont like soccer, cause you know nothing about it. On average, a soccer player runs about 8 km during the 90 minutes. The only one who does not run a lot is the goalie, because they have to take care of the goal and they cant run up forward. Every other player will move around, whether it is a corner, or just attacking, or even when defending, they have to stay close to the player they are assigned to mark, CONSTANTLY. Heck, I'd say a goalie in soccer runs more than a baseball player

Only active real American sports, as I said previously, are football and hockey. Even the NBA, but I hate them because they seem like they don't give a crap about the game ...

[BigTimeWinner]

Only time I watch soccer is the world cup or when USA is playing in an important international match(i.e. Gold Cup). Apart from that, I'd rather watch my town's water tower rust.

Yup, that's why its boring to you Stop being ignorant people, Soccer is the most famous and probably the best sport out there. END OF DISCUSSION.

[MatI]

American's will never never appreciate Soccer. In fact, they never appreciate anything they do not understand. This is what happens when you are constantly told you are the greatest, smartest, best country in the world. How many of you have you have even travelled overseas? I doubt more than 10 percent of American SBR posters have even been further abroad than Canada, and that would be being generous.

Personally, I can appreciate many different sports, who gives a shit about deciding which one is better? Let's pick winners instead of puffing our chest out in some kind of we are better than you tit-for-tat? Fukn gay.

[ZetaPsi808]

I like sports that have lots of scoring. NFL and NBA are the best leagues. NHL and MLB and soccer on 2nd tier.

I hate when any game ends in a tie (soccer)

[jjgold]

America is most narrow minded Country in the world

Small example we mainly just bet sides..totals
Very few would ever use an exchange

[RubberKettle]

Lots of dummys in here

[Punter101]

Lots of dummys in here

[Pat McCrotch]

yanks dont like soccer because their is no ad breaks, during ad breaks the yanks like to feed their big fat ugly greedy faces,

thats why the us is the fattest greasiest country in the world!!!!

[ultrasouth]

You dont like it dont watch it.Really its not that hard to do.

[Pat McCrotch]

and why the fukk are we calling it soccer

the real name is football

they should change nfl to pussy rugby!!!

[MileHigh_Broncos]

and why the fukk are we calling it soccer

the real name is football

they should change nfl to pussy rugby!!!

Signed sealed and delivered.

[showtiime]

[BigTimeWinner]

Soccer wins.

[jjgold]

Soccer always wins
This was a regular season game too

[thetrinity]

jj is right, america is very narrow minded. euros are much more cultured on average.

[RubberKettle]

Euro 2012 right round the corner

[NotSammySosa]

people that hate soccer probably saw a Minor League Soccer game. I was never that interested in the game until I moved out of the U.S.
Now I find myself watching more soccer than basketball games.

[thetrinity]

people that hate soccer probably saw a Minor League Soccer game. I was never that interested in the game until I moved out of the U.S.
Now I find myself watching more soccer than basketball games.

agree the mls actually is part of the problem. it has gotten better but is nowhere near the elite leagues in europe in terms of talent. it probably would draw the casual fan away from the game. the big problem with the euro leagues is that many of their matches come during the american workday or on saturday morning, so its hard to push them IMO. my feeling is that soccer has plateaued in america in terms of interest, way more popular then it was 20 years ago, but still not mainstream. i dont see it being mainstream without the mls becoming an elite league, which will likely never happen.

[swordsandtequila]

The cast of “Glee” has had more songs chart than the Beatles. Must be better, right? Stupid topic.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

agree the mls actually is part of the problem. it has gotten better but is nowhere near the elite leagues in europe in terms of talent. it probably would draw the casual fan away from the game. the big problem with the euro leagues is that many of their matches come during the american workday or on saturday morning, so its hard to push them IMO. my feeling is that soccer has plateaued in america in terms of interest, way more popular then it was 20 years ago, but still not mainstream. i dont see it being mainstream without the mls becoming an elite league, which will likely never happen.

Well it goes both ways then.

The baseball/basketball in other countries is deplorable compared to the level of competition here.