1. 04-22-12 12:37 PM #1
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    Interesting Perfect Game Statistics

    Phil Humber with the perfect game yesterday. Here's what the last three pitchers who have tossed a perfect game have done in their next starts:

    Mark Buehrle - 0-4
    Dallas Braden - 0-8
    Roy Halladay - 1-3

    All aboard the Humber fade train next week.
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  2. 04-22-12 12:40 PM #2
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  3. 04-22-12 12:42 PM #3
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    first two guys were not good pitchers though but those numbers are kinda crazy
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  4. 04-22-12 12:45 PM #4
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    Lol Mark Buehrle not a good pitcher? You serious, bro?
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  5. 04-22-12 12:49 PM #5
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    Maybe fatigue? High expectations?

    Opponents trying to hit "Mr. Perfect" hard, show em up a little bit.
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  6. 04-22-12 12:49 PM #6
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    Career ERA is almost 4 and he is on the downside velocity down, basically he is and average pitcher who stayed healthy he was never good to me and a little past his prime at the time.
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    Mark Buehrle. 200+ innings in EVERY year of his career.
    Only one year below .500 and he was 12-13.
    He is 41 games over .500 for his career (162-121)
    Has a career era of 3.82.
    Has 27 complete games.
    Has a no-hitter.
    Has a perfect game.
    Has won a World Series.
    Was the winning pitcher in an All-Star game.

    What else can he do to make you think he's a good pitcher? He's Andy Pettitte-lite.
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  8. 04-22-12 03:57 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadDog View Post
    Mark Buehrle. 200+ innings in EVERY year of his career.
    Only one year below .500 and he was 12-13.
    He is 41 games over .500 for his career (162-121)
    Has a career era of 3.82.
    Has 27 complete games.
    Has a no-hitter.
    Has a perfect game.
    Has won a World Series.
    Was the winning pitcher in an All-Star game.

    What else can he do to make you think he's a good pitcher? He's Andy Pettitte-lite.


    wish i sucked that bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    Career ERA is almost 4 and he is on the downside velocity down, basically he is and average pitcher who stayed healthy he was never good to me and a little past his prime at the time.
    fyi this day and age in the AL that's over a half run better than league average

    and he just turned 33 so he's hardly past his prime...dont be surprised if he ends up around 3 era in the NL
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    Mark Buehrle not a good pitcher? STFU.
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    Buehrle is not an exciting pitcher to watch by any means, but that doesnt correlate to being bad.
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  12. 04-22-12 06:58 PM #12
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    20 games over .500 for a location pitcher is pretty damn good...dont think hes hit 90 on the gun since he was 21
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    He is the God of Groundballs
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  14. 04-22-12 07:25 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlejc View Post
    20 games over .500 for a location pitcher is pretty damn good...dont think hes hit 90 on the gun since he was 21
    41 games over .500
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    Buehrle is under-rated
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    Attention, attention, attention. The next few starts for a pitcher after he throws a perfect game are studied and studied some more so it can not be duplicated again. Ofers make sense after perfectos. You can get damn out of this world odds that he will not throw a perfect game or no hitter in his next start.
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    Perfect game to 0-8 is unreal. I think it would be even more amazing if a Pitcher went 0-8 and THEN threw a perfect game. Do you have any stats on Pitchers records BEFORE they threw a perfect game?
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    nobody said career, he said next games folks, chill
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  19. 04-22-12 08:19 PM #19
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    Good thread. Makes total sense. Will be pounding the fade hard here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadDog View Post
    Phil Humber with the perfect game yesterday. Here's what the last three pitchers who have tossed a perfect game have done in their next starts:

    Mark Buehrle - 0-4
    Dallas Braden - 0-8
    Roy Halladay - 1-3

    All aboard the Humber fade train next week.

    Halladay threw his perfect game on May 29, 2010. He finished 15-7, no fade

    Braden's on May 09, 2010 and finished 8-15, +6.7u on the fade

    Buehrle's on July 23, 2009 and finished 4-9 , +7.45u on the fade

    R. Johnson's on May 18, 2004 and while going 5-0 in his next 5 starts finished 12-14, +6.65u on the fade
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    Buehrle took a perfect game into the 6th inning in his very next start after his perfect game

    Braden went 8 innings in his next start and had a 3.00 era over his next 3 starts. In that 0-8 streak the A's gave scored 2 runs or less in 7 of those games

    Halladay may have been 1-3 but 3 of those 4 were quality starts. Phillies scored 7 total runs in those 4 games.

    Randy Johnson threw 4 quality starts in his next 5 games and 8 out of 10 (likely would have been 9 with better defense).

    I don't think there's much to this
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  22. 04-22-12 09:05 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw View Post
    Buehrle took a perfect game into the 6th inning in his very next start after his perfect game

    Braden went 8 innings in his next start and had a 3.00 era over his next 3 starts

    Halladay may have been 1-3 but 3 of those 4 were quality starts

    Randy Johnson threw 4 quality starts in his next 5 games and 8 out of 10 (likely would have been 9 with better defense).

    I don't think there's much to this
    Was just posting what I heard on the radio, bro. No need to go all sabermetrics on me
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  23. 04-26-12 12:58 AM #23
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    Bump for Thursday.
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  24. 04-26-12 02:09 AM #24
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    You can't compare the M's line up to the Red Sox line up. Humber will end the year with an era around 4.
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  25. 04-26-12 03:08 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    first two guys were not good pitchers though but those numbers are kinda crazy
    And Humber Is?
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    Perfect game is a bum jugg..
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  27. 04-26-12 05:35 AM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMon View Post
    Halladay threw his perfect game on May 29, 2010. He finished 15-7, no fade

    Braden's on May 09, 2010 and finished 8-15, +6.7u on the fade

    Buehrle's on July 23, 2009 and finished 4-9 , +7.45u on the fade

    R. Johnson's on May 18, 2004 and while going 5-0 in his next 5 starts finished 12-14, +6.65u on the fade
    great info mate thanks. can i ask what your source is?
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  28. 04-26-12 06:29 AM #28
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    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb

    Good article about performances after perfecto...
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    has anyone

    has anyone thrown back to back perfect games in mlb history
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    Quote Originally Posted by the-phenomenal-1 View Post
    has anyone thrown back to back perfect games in mlb history
    There have only been 21 perfect games. What do you think?
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    If you were to come on this forum knowing nothing about baseball, you would think EVERY pitcher in the majors sucked (especially relievers)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadDog View Post
    Phil Humber with the perfect game yesterday. Here's what the last three pitchers who have tossed a perfect game have done in their next starts:

    Mark Buehrle - 0-4
    Dallas Braden - 0-8
    Roy Halladay - 1-3

    All aboard the Humber fade train next week.
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  33. 04-26-12 09:48 PM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    first two guys were not good pitchers though but those numbers are kinda crazy

    Come on man youre better than this. Not even "good"? That's ridiculous, and obviously just coming off the cuff. Mark Buehrle is more than a good pitcher.
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  34. 04-26-12 10:10 PM #34
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    Would be interesting to know what the Ba of the team that gets no hit is. Of course chucking a no hitter or pgame is an incredible achievement but I think it has a bit to do with facing a lite hitting club
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    FADE Seattle????
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