1. 04-18-12 01:11 AM #1
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    I like Heritage, but......

    They have expanded the wagering menu WAY beyond where they had it previously, but there are still some problems. First off, they are the only major book that offers nothing to horseplayers, no rebates, no bonuses. To their credit, not much in the way of limits, but most books offer something extra. Further, they cut off wagering early on WAY too many events. If any non-major event is delayed, they stop wagering at the original closing time, and mostly refuse to reopen wagering. As an example, if a NASCAR race is delayed due to weather, they normally close wagering at the original close time. All in all, a mostly positive experience, but not without problems, IMHO.
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  2. 04-18-12 01:29 AM #2
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    Just give them time. They have gone from not even offering baseball a few years ago to offering a gazillion props on the Grand Salami. I am very impressed with their progress.

    Horses are very hard to book unless you have a horse staff and critical mass. They probably need another year on the horses. Good point on the NASCAR example. I'm sure they will read this and appreciate you for taking the time to point out an area they could improve in.
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  3. 04-18-12 04:34 AM #3
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    Real problem with heritage is their limits, they handcuff you you a 250-nick limit in tennis and most sports that are not mainstream.
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  4. 04-18-12 05:16 AM #4
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    Surprised limits low on tennis..ATP and WTA Events should be 1000

    Anything less they should not offer it
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  5. 04-18-12 05:20 AM #5
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    Heritage CS is solid, they pay on time, solid book, and agree with Lou, they seem to always be progressing.
    B+ book, and if you place a premium on CS and getting paid, make that grade an A- or even an A
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  6. 04-18-12 06:45 AM #6
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    wish they can offer more bonus for re-deposits.
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  7. 04-18-12 10:10 AM #7
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    Like what I am hearing about Heritage. Just setup an account and might gets some funds in it soon after my BI rollover is complete.
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  8. 04-18-12 01:32 PM #8
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    I've personally been loving their super-early NBA overnights, they put every game up, by like 11 AM eastern or something, and leave them up

    yeah the limits are 250, but you can hit them again every time they move, most of them move at least once, a lot of them move several times
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  9. 04-18-12 03:31 PM #9
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    [QUOTE=jjgold;14484936]Surprised limits low on tennis..ATP and WTA Events should be 1000

    Anything less they should not offer it[/
    You have to call em and they usually authorize it for a higher amount....might have to bitch a lil sometimes.
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  10. 04-18-12 04:21 PM #10
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    Heritage best all around book out there right now.
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  11. 04-18-12 04:46 PM #11
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    only thing heritage does right is pays

    money is always safe there

    5 dimes much better book. they pay also with 1000 more betting options.
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  12. 04-18-12 04:55 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post

    5 dimes much better book. they pay also with 1000 more betting options.
    really? what does 5d have that heritage doesnt have?
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  13. 04-18-12 05:00 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeDime View Post
    really? what does 5d have that heritage doesnt have?
    everything-2 many too fukkin list-heritage sucks

    dont fukkin question me carper

    go investigate if your so interested
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  14. 04-18-12 05:19 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    everything-2 many too fukkin list-heritage sucks

    dont fukkin question me carper

    go investigate if your so interested
    bronxer i could have you whacked before the first pitch in the yankee game if i wanted

    5dimes great book of course but what the fuk do they have that heritage doesnt have? open parlays? high school hockey? list the top 3 tough guy
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  15. 04-18-12 05:20 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeDime View Post
    bronxer i could have you whacked before the first pitch in the yankee game if i wanted

    5dimes great book of course but what the fuk do they have that heritage doesnt have? open parlays? high school hockey? list the top 3 tough guy

    group odds in nascar

    live wagering on 100x more events than heritage

    20x the props on all events

    closest book to pinny lines for americans that exists

    horse rebates
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  16. 04-18-12 05:24 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeDime View Post
    bronxer i could have you whacked before the first pitch in the yankee game if i wanted

    put them stem down Carper
    your starting to believe those delusions of grandeur
    no body touches bronxer with out a sit down first
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  17. 04-18-12 05:24 PM #17
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    5dimes doesn't limit you on " underground" sporting events. I have been limited by heritage to 250-500 for tennis, Korean and Japanese soccer, international basketball, handball, and i'm sure a few others I can't think of. 5 dimes limit is no where near as low for events such as this.
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  18. 04-18-12 05:24 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by minet123 View Post

    put them stem down Carper
    your starting to believe those delusions of grandeur
    no body touches bronxer with out a sit down first

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  19. 04-18-12 05:27 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeDime View Post
    really? what does 5d have that heritage doesnt have?
    Much more prop action for starters.

    As much as I love Heritage, and I do, they are top, top tier, they are a 1/2 notch below 5D, and that is by no means a knock on Heritage.
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  20. 04-18-12 06:00 PM #20
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    If an event hasn't started but its off the board... call up wagering and they'll put the bet in for you.
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  21. 04-18-12 08:44 PM #21
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    I like Heritage. They have AH lines in EPL, but not as good a selection as 5Dimes.
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  22. 04-18-12 09:10 PM #22
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    Ganch is the reason Heritage took off
    Lets not kid ourselves

    He is mastermind
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  23. 04-18-12 10:54 PM #23
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    I liked Heritage until now. Why?

    1) No more 30% reload bonus. I don't care about the .8% rebate. That's 100 x .008....LOL.
    2) The software used to be good, the upgrade is buggy.
    3) When I called in to get my reload bonus 2 hours after the deposit, CS said "I'll make a 1 time exception and give it to you, next time you have to call in right away." Seriously Heritage? Don't fuking insult your clients. Other shops are more than happy to take your clients.

    I have been hearing great things about 5Dimes baseball offers for a few seasons but never bother to try. The timing is just right.
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  24. 04-18-12 11:46 PM #24
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    You complain about reload bonuses, then you say you want to go to 5dimes?

    Okay...
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  25. 04-18-12 11:49 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Ganch is the reason Heritage took off
    Lets not kid ourselves

    He is mastermind
    I'd say the reason they took off last year is because they aquired alot of the oddsmakers at Greek... certainly helped.
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  26. 04-18-12 11:52 PM #26
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    fukin jinxed there lately
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  27. 04-19-12 01:20 AM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    You complain about reload bonuses, then you say you want to go to 5dimes?

    Okay...
    Reload bonus is only 1 of the reason that I like Heritage. When you take away the incentive for your client to stay, they will leave to try other shops. It's that simple. Time to try out reduced juice at 5Dimes.
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  28. 04-19-12 01:51 AM #28
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    meh, got limited there pretty quickly and they took away my wager rebates
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  29. 04-19-12 01:57 AM #29
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    is the 8th deposit still free there?
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  30. 04-19-12 05:40 AM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    You complain about reload bonuses, then you say you want to go to 5dimes?

    Okay...
    5D offers a 40$ FP bonus, on deposits of 100-249. Unlocked 8$ at a time per 100 risked. Really not to bad to get 40% bonus on 100. Heritage cash back is a total joke, I do like the "deposit 7 times without a pay out and the 8th is on us." Still no where near 5ds fixed 40$ FP. Of course you have to abandon the reduced juice, but well worth it IMO if you deposit often.
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  31. 04-19-12 08:27 AM #31
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    Lol...you must bet very small for that 40 dollar fp to mean more then the cash back.

    And again lol at people praising 5d reduced juice....its a 500 dollar max bet otherwise its full juice.

    So... if I'm betting 4k on a game.... you can get 500 on -105 and 3500 on -110..... of 4k straight up on -108 at heritage.
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  32. 04-19-12 09:30 AM #32
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    brianl what games are you seeing $4k limits for? if you start winning you won't be able to bet that much at heritage again, you'll just get your limits cut
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    Quote Originally Posted by lecubs28 View Post
    brianl what games are you seeing $4k limits for? if you start winning you won't be able to bet that much at heritage again, you'll just get your limits cut
    I have 10k limits on MLB.... and I'm up like 20k on them and I'm not limited at all.. compared to 5dimes which took away reduced juice a long time ago and they told me they don't want my action anymore.

    Heritage limits people who chase steam... otherwise they very rarely do.
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  34. 04-19-12 10:18 AM #34
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    If someone doesn't realize 5dimes offers a million more options than heritage they have never played at both. You'd have to have a learning disability to not realize this.
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  35. 04-19-12 10:31 AM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhat View Post
    If someone doesn't realize 5dimes offers a million more options than heritage they have never played at both. You'd have to have a learning disability to not realize this.
    Since when does more betting options= better book? I don't think anyone has argued that heritage has more options.
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