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    Detroit should handle Nashville

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    pitt
    NJ
    boston
    ottawa
    nashville
    PHX
    SJ
    Vancouver

    all through to round 2

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    Someone get some lines out..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbawks View Post
    pitt
    NJ
    boston
    ottawa
    nashville
    PHX
    SJ
    Vancouver

    all through to round 2
    I get the homer pick in Ottawa but why the SJ pick?

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    NHL Stanley Cup Odds (based on 2012 NHL Playoffs played 50,000 times):
    Region Seed Team Conf Semifinals Conf Finals Stanley Cup Finals Champ.
    Eastern 1 NYR 65.9% 42.4% 27.1% 16.9%
    Eastern 8 Ott 34.1% 12.1% 4.3% 1.6%
    Eastern 4 Pit 63.8% 33.5% 15.0% 7.3%
    Eastern 5 Phi 36.2% 18.2% 7.8% 3.1%
    Eastern 3 Fla 60.4% 35.2% 14.8% 6.7%
    Eastern 6 NJ 39.6% 13.1% 5.7% 2.3%
    Eastern 2 Bos 66.4% 30.6% 19.9% 11.6%
    Eastern 7 Was 33.6% 14.9% 5.3% 2.0%
    Region Seed Team Conf Semifinals Conf Finals Stanley Cup Finals Champ.
    Western 1 Van 63.5% 40.0% 26.4% 15.1%
    Western 8 LA 36.5% 14.8% 5.6% 2.0%
    Western 4 Nsh 64.7% 30.5% 13.5% 5.7%
    Western 5 Det 35.3% 16.8% 7.3% 3.1%
    Western 3 Pho 64.3% 40.2% 17.4% 8.7%
    Western 6 Chi 35.8% 12.5% 5.5% 2.0%
    Western 2 StL 62.2% 28.7% 18.3% 9.6%
    Western 7 SJ 37.8% 16.5% 5.9% 2.3%

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    homer pick? Ottawa owns New York

    this is all just first glance, SJ has playoff experience they will break out one of these years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Someone get some lines out..........
    unreal isnt it?>

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    wtf where are these things

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    I'm going to be playing some underdog picks. I don't know why, but I think the Sharks are going to beat St. Louis.

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    Why are books so slow to get lines out? Very strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaWoj View Post
    NHL Stanley Cup Odds (based on 2012 NHL Playoffs played 50,000 times):
    Region Seed Team Conf Semifinals Conf Finals Stanley Cup Finals Champ.
    Eastern 1 NYR 65.9% 42.4% 27.1% 16.9%
    Eastern 8 Ott 34.1% 12.1% 4.3% 1.6%
    Eastern 4 Pit 63.8% 33.5% 15.0% 7.3%
    Eastern 5 Phi 36.2% 18.2% 7.8% 3.1%
    Eastern 3 Fla 60.4% 35.2% 14.8% 6.7%
    Eastern 6 NJ 39.6% 13.1% 5.7% 2.3%
    Eastern 2 Bos 66.4% 30.6% 19.9% 11.6%
    Eastern 7 Was 33.6% 14.9% 5.3% 2.0%
    Region Seed Team Conf Semifinals Conf Finals Stanley Cup Finals Champ.
    Western 1 Van 63.5% 40.0% 26.4% 15.1%
    Western 8 LA 36.5% 14.8% 5.6% 2.0%
    Western 4 Nsh 64.7% 30.5% 13.5% 5.7%
    Western 5 Det 35.3% 16.8% 7.3% 3.1%
    Western 3 Pho 64.3% 40.2% 17.4% 8.7%
    Western 6 Chi 35.8% 12.5% 5.5% 2.0%
    Western 2 StL 62.2% 28.7% 18.3% 9.6%
    Western 7 SJ 37.8% 16.5% 5.9% 2.3%
    This is pretty much useless because it does not adjust for personnel. Just look at Pittsburgh. They are nearly the fourth choice to win the East per this table while they are the favorites in real life because Crosby is back.

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    Also how could Florida be 14.8% and New Jersey be 5.7%? The Devils will be favored in that series.

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    Updated Futures is all we have right now. This is becoming a real joke.

    NHL Stanley Cup 2011-2012
    Wed 4/11 7:35PM
    Pittsburgh Penguins +450
    Vancouver Canucks +500
    New York Rangers +600
    Boston Bruins +800
    St. Louis Blues +900
    Detroit Red Wings +1200
    Philadelphia Flyers +1400
    Chicago Blackhawks +1600
    Nashville Predators +1600
    Los Angeles Kings +2500
    New Jersey Devils +2500
    San Jose Sharks +2500
    Washington Capitals +3100
    Phoenix Coyotes +4000
    Florida Panthers +4500
    Ottawa Senators +5000

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    R coyotes really the worst in the west?

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    based on odds to win the stanley cup, yes the coyotes are the worst in the west even with the 3 seed. strange since they have home ice advantage for at least one round and quite possibly more

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    R coyotes really the worst in the west?
    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    based on odds to win the stanley cup, yes the coyotes are the worst in the west even with the 3 seed. strange since they have home ice advantage for at least one round and quite possibly more
    Even though Phoenix is a 3-seed, they will be underdogs vs. Chicago and underdogs in every series after that unless they miraculously draw LA in round 2, and even that would be close to Pick.

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    Huge Flyers fan here. Everyone is saying Phi/Pit is a toss up, I'm not seeing it. The Bryzzy/Fleury match up is not close at all. We have a proven champion and clutch player in Fleury against Bryzzy who has proven absolutely nothing in the playoffs. Malkin, The Byb, Neal.....they are too much.

    Pens in 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevek173 View Post
    Huge Flyers fan here. Everyone is saying Phi/Pit is a toss up, I'm not seeing it. The Bryzzy/Fleury match up is not close at all. We have a proven champion and clutch player in Fleury against Bryzzy who has proven absolutely nothing in the playoffs. Malkin, The Byb, Neal.....they are too much.

    Pens in 5.
    Pens are huge favorites to win cup. Pens-Flyers is not a toss up. My guess is pens -200 for series.

    I think phoenix and florida are both good bets for series first round.

    But where are the lines?!

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    Futures betting advice:

    If like a team but their odds are so and so right now, wait till they lose a game or two especially on the road then get them at great odds if you still feel confident. Obviously most people give up on that team if the series is 0-2 or 1-3.

    Last year Bruins were down 0-2 in the 1st round. They still won the cup. 50-1 or higher at that point
    Tampa was down 3-1 to Pens and then were one game away from the Finals. 125-1 or higher at that point.

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    good advice from k, like usual. this is not the nba where teams pack it in down 2-0 or 3-1 in the first round. where are the lines is the big mystery, thought for sure they would be out yesterday?

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    We got something....game 1 lines...


    NHL Hockey Spread Money Line Total Points

    Philadelphia Flyers at Pittsburgh Penguins - Eastern Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Wed 4/11 51 Philadelphia Flyers +1½ -240 +130 o5½ +100
    7:35PM 52 Pittsburgh Penguins -1½ +200 -150 u5½ -120

    Detroit Red Wings at Nashville Predators - Western Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Wed 4/11 53 Detroit Red Wings +1½ -265 +105 o5½ +120
    8:05PM 54 Nashville Predators -1½ +225 -125 u5½ -140

    Los Angeles Kings at Vancouver Canucks - Western Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Wed 4/11 55 Los Angeles Kings +1½ -235 +135 o5 -125
    10:35PM 56 Vancouver Canucks -1½ +195 -155 u5 +105

    Ottawa Senators at New York Rangers - Eastern Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Thu 4/12 57 Ottawa Senators +1½ -210 +155 o5 -130
    7:05PM 58 New York Rangers -1½ +175 -175 u5 +110

    Washington Capitals at Boston Bruins - Eastern Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Thu 4/12 59 Washington Capitals +1½ -200 +158 o5 -145
    7:35PM 60 Boston Bruins -1½ +170 -180 u5 +125

    San Jose Sharks at St. Louis Blues - Western Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Thu 4/12 61 San Jose Sharks +1½ -255 +115 o5 -120
    7:35PM 62 St. Louis Blues -1½ +215 -135 u5 +100

    Chicago Blackhawks at Phoenix Coyotes - Western Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Thu 4/12 63 Chicago Blackhawks +1½ -280 -105 o5 -140
    10:05PM 64 Phoenix Coyotes -1½ +240 -115 u5 +120

    New Jersey Devils at Florida Panthers - Eastern Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Fri 4/13 65 New Jersey Devils +1½ -270 +100 o5 -120
    7:05PM 66 Florida Panthers -1½ +230 -120 u5 +100

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    vancouver -155 seems like value, will probably shoot up in the next few days.

    interesting that phx and fla are both favorites, wonder what the series lines will be for those 2

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    these are from 5dimes, where are those others ones from?

    NHL Hockey Spread Money Line Total Points
    Philadelphia Flyers at Pittsburgh Penguins - Eastern Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Wed 4/11 51 Philadelphia Flyers +1½ -210 +150 o5½ -120
    7:35PM 52 Pittsburgh Penguins -1½ +175 -170 u5½ +100
    Detroit Red Wings at Nashville Predators - Western Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Wed 4/11 53 Detroit Red Wings +1½ -260 +115 o5½ +125
    8:05PM 54 Nashville Predators -1½ +220 -135 u5½ -145
    Los Angeles Kings at Vancouver Canucks - Western Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Wed 4/11 55 Los Angeles Kings +1½ -210 +145 o5 +105
    10:35PM 56 Vancouver Canucks -1½ +175 -165 u5 -125
    Ottawa Senators at New York Rangers - Eastern Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Thu 4/12 57 Ottawa Senators +1½ -185 +160 o5 -130
    7:05PM 58 New York Rangers -1½ +160 -185 u5 +110
    Washington Capitals at Boston Bruins - Eastern Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Thu 4/12 59 Washington Capitals +1½ -190 +158 o5 -145
    7:35PM 60 Boston Bruins -1½ +165 -180 u5 +125
    San Jose Sharks at St. Louis Blues - Western Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Thu 4/12 61 San Jose Sharks +1½ -230 +135 o5 -105
    7:35PM 62 St. Louis Blues -1½ +190 -155 u5 -115
    Chicago Blackhawks at Phoenix Coyotes - Western Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Thu 4/12 63 Chicago Blackhawks +1½ -320 -110 o5 -140
    10:05PM 64 Phoenix Coyotes -1½ +260 -110 u5 +120
    New Jersey Devils at Florida Panthers - Eastern Conference Playoffs - Game 1
    Fri 4/13 65 New Jersey Devils +1½ -320 -110 o5 -125
    7:05PM 66 Florida Panthers -1½ +260 -110 u5 +105

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    cup matchups

    NHL Stanley Cup Matchup
    Wed 4/11 7:35PM
    New York Rangers vs Vancouver Canucks +791
    Pittsburgh Penguins vs Vancouver Canucks +807
    New York Rangers vs St Louis Blues +1260
    Pittsburgh Penguins vs St Louis Blues +1285
    Boston Bruins vs Vancouver Canucks +1665
    New York Rangers vs Detroit Red Wings +2285
    Pittsburgh Penguins vs Detroit Red Wings +2330
    New York Rangers vs Chicago Blackhawks +2450
    New York Rangers vs Nashville Predators +2450
    Philadelphia Flyers vs Vancouver Canucks +2500
    Pittsburgh Penguins vs Chicago Blackhawks +2500
    Pittsburgh Penguins vs Nashville Predators +2500
    Boston Bruins vs St Louis Blues +2600
    New York Rangers vs San Jose Sharks +3725
    Pittsburgh Penguins vs San Jose Sharks +3800
    Philadelphia Flyers vs St Louis Blues +3875
    New Jersey Devils vs Vancouver Canucks +3900
    New York Rangers vs Los Angeles Kings +4050
    Pittsburgh Penguins vs Los Angeles Kings +4150
    Boston Bruins vs Detroit Red Wings +4650
    Boston Bruins vs Chicago Blackhawks +4975
    Boston Bruins vs Nashville Predators +4975
    Washington Capitals vs Vancouver Canucks +5000
    New Jersey Devils vs St Louis Blues +6000
    New York Rangers vs Phoenix Coyotes +6400
    Pittsburgh Penguins vs Phoenix Coyotes +6550
    Philadelphia Flyers vs Detroit Red Wings +6900
    Florida Panthers vs Vancouver Canucks +7050
    Philadelphia Flyers vs Chicago Blackhawks +7400
    Philadelphia Flyers vs Nashville Predators +7400
    Boston Bruins vs San Jose Sharks +7500
    Ottawa Senators vs Vancouver Canucks +7700
    Washington Capitals vs St Louis Blues +7700
    Boston Bruins vs Los Angeles Kings +8200
    New Jersey Devils vs Detroit Red Wings +10600
    Florida Panthers vs St Louis Blues +10800
    Philadelphia Flyers vs San Jose Sharks +11200
    New Jersey Devils vs Chicago Blackhawks +11400
    New Jersey Devils vs Nashville Predators +11400
    Ottawa Senators vs St Louis Blues +11800
    Philadelphia Flyers vs Los Angeles Kings +12200
    Boston Bruins vs Phoenix Coyotes +12900
    Washington Capitals vs Detroit Red Wings +13700
    Washington Capitals vs Chicago Blackhawks +14700
    Washington Capitals vs Nashville Predators +14700
    New Jersey Devils vs San Jose Sharks +17100
    New Jersey Devils vs Los Angeles Kings +18600
    Florida Panthers vs Detroit Red Wings +19100
    Philadelphia Flyers vs Phoenix Coyotes +19300
    Florida Panthers vs Chicago Blackhawks +20500
    Florida Panthers vs Nashville Predators +20500
    Ottawa Senators vs Detroit Red Wings +21000
    Washington Capitals vs San Jose Sharks +22000
    Ottawa Senators vs Chicago Blackhawks +22500
    Ottawa Senators vs Nashville Predators +22500
    Washington Capitals vs Los Angeles Kings +24000
    New Jersey Devils vs Phoenix Coyotes +29000
    Florida Panthers vs San Jose Sharks +30500
    Florida Panthers vs Los Angeles Kings +33500
    Ottawa Senators vs San Jose Sharks +33500
    Ottawa Senators vs Los Angeles Kings +36500
    Washington Capitals vs Phoenix Coyotes +38500
    Florida Panthers vs Phoenix Coyotes +52000
    Ottawa Senators vs Phoenix Coyotes +57000

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    under under under

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    People keep estimating this phi/pit series as a coin flip with all these -120, -150 lines.....meanwhile they will be one of the bigger faves in the 1st around along the lines of van/la

    bos/nyr
    pit/van
    stl

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    Wed 4/11 881 Philadelphia Flyers (Series) +165
    7:35PM 882 Pittsburgh Penguins (Series) -190
    Wed 4/11 883 Detroit Red Wings (Series) +110
    8:05PM 884 Nashville Predators (Series) -130
    Wed 4/11 885 Los Angeles Kings (Series) +140
    10:35PM 886 Vancouver Canucks (Series) -160
    Thu 4/12 887 Ottawa Senators (Series) +200
    7:05PM 888 New York Rangers (Series) -240
    Thu 4/12 889 Washington Capitals (Series) +190
    7:35PM 890 Boston Bruins (Series) -230
    Thu 4/12 891 San Jose Sharks (Series) +145
    7:35PM 892 St. Louis Blues (Series) -165
    Thu 4/12 893 Chicago Blackhawks (Series) -120
    10:05PM 894 Phoenix Coyotes (Series) +100
    Fri 4/13 895 New Jersey Devils (Series) -160
    7:05PM 896 Florida Panthers (Series) +140

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    Pinnacle....lines already moving quick.

    First Round Series (Best of Seven)
    Wed 4/11 Philadelphia Flyers vs Pittsburgh Penguins
    04:35 PM 881 Philadelphia Flyers +166
    882 Pittsburgh Penguins -185

    Wed 4/11 Detroit Red Wings vs Nashville Predators
    05:05 PM 883 Detroit Red Wings +110
    884 Nashville Predators -121

    Wed 4/11 Los Angeles Kings vs Vancouver Canucks
    07:35 PM 885 Los Angeles Kings +166
    886 Vancouver Canucks -185

    Thu 4/12 Ottawa Senators vs New York Rangers
    04:05 PM 887 Ottawa Senators +201
    888 New York Rangers -225

    Thu 4/12 Washington Capitals vs Boston Bruins
    04:35 PM 889 Washington Capitals +188
    890 Boston Bruins -210

    Thu 4/12 San Jose Sharks vs St. Louis Blues
    04:35 PM 891 San Jose Sharks +140
    892 St. Louis Blues -155

    Thu 4/12 Chicago Blackhawks vs Phoenix Coyotes
    07:05 PM 893 Chicago Blackhawks -111
    894 Phoenix Coyotes +101

    Fri 4/13 New Jersey Devils vs Florida Panthers
    04:05 PM 895 New Jersey Devils -165
    896 Florida Panthers +149

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    #1 overall seed only -175 vs #8 seed

    Gotta love hockey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    #1 overall seed only -175 vs #8 seed

    Gotta love hockey.
    Opened at -160 and up to -185 already I jumped on for it for $1750 as soon as I saw it.

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    Love NJ even at -165. Florida is going to be star struck in the playoffs.

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    New Jersey is already -170. Detroit +110 to +108. Philadephia + whatever is a great bet, same with Detroit + whatever.

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    Man vancouver doesnt look very scary after I took a long at the lineup. Great chance for LA kings here.

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    Just waiting for them to be up at the SBR Book now.

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    PHI Flyers +158
    PIT Penguins -175

    DET Red Wings +110
    NSH Predators -121

    LA Kings +159
    VAN Canucks -177

    OTT Senators +201
    NYR Rangers -225

    WAS Capitals +188
    BOS Bruins -210

    SJ Sharks +140
    STL Blues -155

    CHI Blackhawks -120
    PHO Coyotes +109

    NJ Devils -170
    FLA Panthers +153

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