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    Gambling addiction stories

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    Michael Osborne once figured he could make a living by betting on sports.

    “Winning 700, 800 bucks at 15 when I was working in the grocery store making $200 a week, I thought I was a big deal. It was nice walking around in high school with that wad in your pocket,” recalled Osborne, now 37. “That’s the hook, line and sinker. I’m thinking, 'This is easy. I know sports, I love sports. I might never have to work again.”’
    He ended up $500,000 in debt, in legal trouble and ultimately, suicidal.


    “I lost everything,” Osborne said. “Cars, family, house, career. There was nothing left for me to lose.”


    With treatment, Osborne shed his gambling addiction. Now, instead of seeking to support himself by wagering on sports, he’s dedicated his life to helping others with the same misguided notion.


    Osborne is owner and executive director of Baltimore-based Harbour Pointe, a residential treatment facility that is solely dedicated to curing addiction to gambling. Founded in 1985, Harbour Pointe treated 104 people last year, including women and CEOs.


    “I’ve handled everyone from millionaires to people whose parents, uncles, brothers and friends chipped in to get them a month of care,” said Dr. Jack Vaeth, a board certified psychiatrist and a member of the Harbour Pointe medical staff.


    The National Gambling Impact Study Commission estimates that each year an average of $230 billion is illegally wagered on sports in the United States. A study by the National Institute of Mental Health concluded 4.2 million Americans are addicted to gambling, 60 percent of whom have yearly incomes under $25,000.


    “Gamblers are difficult to treat. People love to bet on football because they think they know the game and believe they can beat the odds,” said Jeffrey M. Beck, managerial assistant at the New Jersey-based Council of Compulsive Gambling.


    Osborne’s first experience with Harbour Pointe came when he was 19. His parents bailed him out of a $6,000 debt to a bookie under the stipulation he receive treatment for his problem.


    “They brought me here and dropped me off. But once the bookie was taken care of, I felt like I had learned my lesson,” Osborne said. “I told myself I would never get to that point again. I started calling in bets from here. I did what I needed to do to get through it and that was the end.”


    Only it wasn’t. Osborne got a job in real estate and stole from customers’ escrow accounts to pay off debts to offshore bookmakers. In August 2003, facing jail time after violating probation, he was homeless and walking along the side of railroad tracks trying to decide what to do next.


    “There was nothing else to live for,” he said. “It was either going to be death or one last-ditch effort of getting help and trying to come out of this.”


    He returned to Harbour Pointe, finally righted himself and, in 2006, took control of the facility.


    Osborne receives personal and vocational support from LeRoy Yegge, his best friend and Harbour Pointe’s business development manager. The 43-year-old Yegge has a story that’s very similar to Osborne’s.
    “I started pitching coins at 7 years old after school. I was winning and feeling good about it,” Yegge said. “I went to the racetrack at 12 years old. Went with $20 and walked out with $180. It was the greatest thing I’d ever seen.”


    He got a job at the track at 15, and in high school was booking bets for his teachers to feed his habit.


    “I’d bet on sports, horses, cards,” Yegge recalled. “If there were two flies in a room, I’d bet on which one landed first.”


    Yegge remained afloat until 2002, when he stole his wife’s identity and maxed out her ************ to pay off his gambling tab. She threw him out of the house, and Yegge was living on the streets of Baltimore before he finally checked himself into Harbour Pointe.


    Having battled their own demons, Osborne and Yegge know firsthand of gambling’s addictive power. Summoned by desperate families, they have traveled as far as California for “an intervention.”


    “We go out with two plane tickets and book three to come back,” Osborne said. “There’s an immediate connection. I say, ’I’m not a doctor and I won’t pretend to be one. But I can tell you where you’ve been, where you’re at now and where you still have to go.’ That gets their attention.”


    About 93 percent of those visited return to Harbour Pointe even though the eight-bed facility is not cheap: A five-week session costs $20,000.


    A man who cured his gambling addiction at Gamblers Anonymous scoffed at the price.


    “It’s a moneymaking deal,” said Chris, who would not give his last name. “If people really want help, they can come to GA for nothing.”
    Harbour Pointe officials insist the individual treatment they offer is far more effective. Each patient receives one-on-one attention in meetings with the medical staff and former gamblers such as Osborne and Yegge.


    “What we find is that gamblers are manipulators and liars,” Osborne said, “so if you put them in groups all day what you do is give them a path to not look at their own issues.”


    Psychologist Thomas T. Truss, the clinical director at Harbour Pointe, said, “I value the role that Gamblers Anonymous plays as a self-help group, but there’s a world of difference in what we offer: an in-depth exploration of the subject’s life history.”


    Vaeth said, “The key is the individual one-on-one treatment. My role is to look at the whole person. When someone comes here, our goal is not only to get him to quit gambling, but to have him emerge as the optimal person he can be.”


    Yegge says he started gambling because his parents divorced at an early age and betting served as an escape.


    “Typically, what we ultimately find is that gambling ends up being a smaller problem of a bigger problem,” Osborne said. “That’s where we’re different. Programs these days only treat the addiction and not the overall person. And it’s equally important for us at Harbour Point to find what we call the fuel to the fire. If we only treated the gambling, when these real issues came to the surface again an individual will relapse.”


    Says Yegge: “Coming here is not a cure. It helps you realize what’s going on with yourself.”


    Osborne says the abstinence rate after leaving Harbour Pointe is around 73 percent. He plans to open a new facility in West Palm Beach, Fla., next year.


    Osborne hasn’t made a bet since 2003 but is still paying for his mistakes. He was told recently to appear before the real estate commission because he stole $28,819 and owes more than $126,000 in fines.


    Osborne has no desire to make a bet to get the money back. Similarly, Yegge knows exactly what would happen if he ever succumbed to the urge to gamble again.


    “If I went out today and played a dollar on my number, my luck is so bad that I’d probably win,” he said. “I’d have all that money in front of me. The very first bet I’d make could send me down that road again.”

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    he should have stuck to betting on the ponies

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    Quote Originally Posted by wtf View Post
    he should have stuck to betting on the ponies
    With a 20 - 25% house rake, I don't see how anybody can make money on the horses.

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    We have a lot of frustrated losers in this forum that should be strapped to a bed and dragged to Harbor Pointe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obama our lord View Post
    With a 20 - 25% house rake, I don't see how anybody can make money on the horses.
    Just got to be smarter than the horse, OOL. God bless.

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    Baltimore huh may have to check myself in to this place haha

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    Family doctor loses £300,000 because of gambling addiction

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...addiction.html

    Dr Mathew Amos, 44, blew £300,000 on his addiction which also cost him his wife, home, career and even a car he was reduced to living in.

    He stole from colleagues and friends to finance his habit and was suspended from practising by the General Medical Council when his employers feared he was involved in fraud and being blackmailed.

    Amos, a GP for 11 years, admitted 13 offences of theft and dishonesty totalling £5,366 when he appeared at Sheffield Crown Court.



    Simon Phillips, his barrister, described him as having previously been a "man who had everything".



    He had sporting ability as a youngster, was talented and happily married with three children and clearly well-respected as a successful GP in Thurnscoe, South Yorkshire.



    But his downfall came when he started gambling about ten years ago after suffering a depressive illness.



    Mr Phillips said: "Because of his position as a GP on a good income and with his interest in sport as a youth these factors put together facilitated his compulsion to gamble."



    Medical reports presented to the court revealed that Amos was suffering from a depressive illness and his own family believed he was mentally unwell.



    He has been attending Gamblers Anonymous for some time.



    Judge Michael Murphy said Amos had either decided to adopt a life of crime, which he thought bizarre at his age, or more likely he had suffered a "mid-life crisis or breakdown".



    Amos had acted as he did in a "mean and unsophisticated" way believing his old life was not worth living.



    The judge told him: "You have burned your boats with a vengeance. It is an awful waste of talent. You have lost your practice, your good character and a lot of friends who have been taken for a ride by your dishonesty."



    Judge Murphy place Amos a community order and he will have to undertake 200 hours of unpaid work in the community and be supervised for the next 12 months.



    Amos has been divorced by his wife Rachel and now lives on incapacity benefits in Doncaster with a new girlfriend who he hopes to marry. He left court without comment.



    He graduated from Sheffield University before joining the medical profession and is currently suspended from practicing by the GMC and his registration now likely to be rescinded.



    Samantha Thompson, prosecuting, said three of the offences involved Amos' then neighbours, his colleague Dr Peter Claydon and his wife Kim in the summer of 2006.



    The Claydons went on holiday leaving a key to their home with the Amos in case of an emergency. When Mrs Claydon returned she found a cheque had been cashed for £538 from a new cheque book sent to her while she was away.



    A few days later Amos tried to cash a further cheque for £1,000 at a bank. When seen by the police, he claimed the cheque book had been sent to his address by mistake.



    Three days after being bailed for those matters, Amos opened a fuel account at a garage where he knew the proprietor but provided a false address and work details to obtain petrol and cash.



    After his marriage broke up he became homeless and for a time lived in his car.

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    Prison Program Explores Gambling's Dark Heart

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    The downside of the gambling high life meets weekly in a classroom at the York Correctional Institution in Niantic.

    This is where the phony promises from the lottery and the casinos are slowly unraveled, where dreams are translated into a nightmare of larceny convictions, hundreds of thousands of dollars squandered, ruined marriages and children left at home when mom goes to jail.

    "The most I ever won was $300," Deborah Czarneski tells the group, explaining how she paid for her habit by stealing from her nonprofit employer. She was spending more than $100 a day, burning her loser scratch tickets in the backyard to hide the evidence. That was before the larceny arrest.

    "When I was arrested, they never even asked if I had a gambling problem," Czarneski said.

    Sometimes nobody ever asks, and the gambling continues through the next casino or scratch-ticket bender.

    But now, at a time when rehabilitation is unexpectedly edging back into the prison conversation, the York program is an attempt at beginning to heal these women before they get out.

    "We were ending up with a lot of women gamblers," Brian Garnett, a Department of Correction spokesman, told me. "It was a very serious issue."

    I drove down to York with Donna Zaharevitz, a grandmother from Windsor Locks who knows of what she speaks. A few years ago, Zaharevitz lost her marriage of 36 years when she was caught stealing and writing checks to finance her casino habit. A few years ago she became a counselor for the Wheeler Clinic, where she works with the state's growing number of chronic gamblers, including women at York.

    "This is an addiction," Zaharevitz said as we approach the gray walls of the women's prison in Niantic. "We are not bad people. We have all paid the consequences."

    For most of the women, it's the first time they are talking about how gambling has changed their lives — and what they have done to themselves. In this group of a dozen or so, they are middle-aged and young, white and black. Some of them used to own homes, have husbands, jobs and businesses.

    Laura lost her salon in a fog of scratch tickets and blackjack games. Lynda didn't gamble till she was 50, when she hit it big on a slot machine. Now, she said, "I've started peeling the layers off."

    "There's a lot of women in here with a gambling addiction. It destroyed my life, my childrens' life. It's hard."

    Before her arrest and she lost everything, Joan Dent told me that she would go for "three- or four-day stretches at the casino. If I couldn't get to the casino I went to the corner store."

    "I lost a 17-year marriage. I lost everything down to the shoes on my feet," Dent said. For the first time, she said, she is now assembling a plan for a life without gambling.

    When she was sentenced for stealing more than $150,000 from her job, the prosecutor called Dent "a dishonest thief" and said that "gambling was just a symptom of her criminology."

    Her former boss, the Vernon superintendent of schools, asked for the maximum penalty. The judge said that "a gambling problem can't be justification for the thefts."

    These women aren't looking for justification or an excuse. They are trying to figure out how to live in a world where this week the lottery launched a game tailor-made for addicts: "Lucky-4-Life" promises "$2,000 a week for life."

    The odds of winning the top prize in this numbers game are 1 in 3,207,789. Chronic gamblers could not care less about those odds. Because, as Czarneski said to me, you can't win if you don't play.

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    great a whole new market segment to approach!

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    Gambling has made me so sad....

    http://www.dailystrength.org/people/...ournal/1305718

    I am so very, very sad....sad for all the money I have lost...sad that I have lied to those who love me....sad that today I lost 1500.00 dollars....money I could have bought help for my husband in the yard...money I could have bought clothes for my daughter..money for a hair appointment for homecoming...money for my daughter to pay off her debt or move into an apartment....money I could have used to finish our downstairs...fix the brakes on my car, pay off the dentist...get a crown for my tooth, actually two of them...money I could have given to my 82 year old dad to make his life more special...some how I always have excuses to not spend the money on those things but always make it ok to spend it on slots. This past week I even left work early to go gambling...which makes it about 4-5 times I have done that this year.....I lie, lie, lie to everyone ...even myself....in all honesty the credit card debt and the need to file bankruptcy was caused by my gambling...I sold stock and gambled it away...I took loans against my 401K and gambled it away....I have my husband cashing out retirement and I am gambling it away....I gambled away my bonus and I have utilized payday loans..up to 7 at a time to cover my losses...I am sick and tired of being sick and tired....nothing interests me but gambling..it used to be an "escape" but now it only brings sadness...I have a great job and will now work remote and I am scared to death that all I will want to do is gamble.....the more I try to stop the more I want to go...at least I have contacted a counselor, I need help. At least on the positive I banned myself from the casinos closest to my house and have not gone there for fear of being arrested...I have not sunk that low yet.....the really, really sad part is it is not even fun anymore...the stress of losing makes me physically sick and depressed...why do I do this to myself......you never win, never, never, never...sure you will a little bit but you put it right back....you never win for while you may not give it back at the moment you will within the next few weeks. I am truly at the bottom today ...I don't want to lose my husband (I am sure he knows I am lying)....don't want the financial strain anymore....want to do fabulous at my new job and want to find happiness and peace at my home.....not the constant anxiety I feel today. God help me please find the way out of this pain....find the way to make my marriage better....improve my health and my finances....please help me to stop.

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    Shake it off , it will get better, Smile and enjoy the break,

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    sell your ass to raise more capital...it's easy

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    Does anyone else think this might be OOL's wife crying for help?

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    Gambling does this to everyone who gets addicted to it. Your story is not unique. What I mean by this is to say, don't feel like you're worse than anyone else. Gambling is an equal opportunity menace. It will wreak havoc on your life no matter if you are male or female, young or old, tall or short, beautiful or plain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obama our lord View Post
    http://www.dailystrength.org/people/...ournal/1305718

    I am so very, very sad....sad for all the money I have lost...sad that I have lied to those who love me....sad that today I lost 1500.00 dollars....money I could have bought help for my husband in the yard...money I could have bought clothes for my daughter..money for a hair appointment for homecoming...money for my daughter to pay off her debt or move into an apartment....money I could have used to finish our downstairs...fix the brakes on my car, pay off the dentist...get a crown for my tooth, actually two of them...money I could have given to my 82 year old dad to make his life more special...some how I always have excuses to not spend the money on those things but always make it ok to spend it on slots. This past week I even left work early to go gambling...which makes it about 4-5 times I have done that this year.....I lie, lie, lie to everyone ...even myself....in all honesty the credit card debt and the need to file bankruptcy was caused by my gambling...I sold stock and gambled it away...I took loans against my 401K and gambled it away....I have my husband cashing out retirement and I am gambling it away....I gambled away my bonus and I have utilized payday loans..up to 7 at a time to cover my losses...I am sick and tired of being sick and tired....nothing interests me but gambling..it used to be an "escape" but now it only brings sadness...I have a great job and will now work remote and I am scared to death that all I will want to do is gamble.....the more I try to stop the more I want to go...at least I have contacted a counselor, I need help. At least on the positive I banned myself from the casinos closest to my house and have not gone there for fear of being arrested...I have not sunk that low yet.....the really, really sad part is it is not even fun anymore...the stress of losing makes me physically sick and depressed...why do I do this to myself......you never win, never, never, never...sure you will a little bit but you put it right back....you never win for while you may not give it back at the moment you will within the next few weeks. I am truly at the bottom today ...I don't want to lose my husband (I am sure he knows I am lying)....don't want the financial strain anymore....want to do fabulous at my new job and want to find happiness and peace at my home.....not the constant anxiety I feel today. God help me please find the way out of this pain....find the way to make my marriage better....improve my health and my finances....please help me to stop.


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    Draw your own conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinBlank View Post
    Draw your own conclusions.

    OOL starts two threads. One from the "GayPatriot" the other from "DailyStrength".
    Yes, I have drawn my own conclusions. I think I will keep them to myself, but let's just say I probably won't have much of an appetite until dinner, if you catch my drift.

    If you saw the conclusions I couldn't help but draw in my head, you probably wouldn't have much an appetite either. They're pretty fukkin gross, to put it bluntly. But I can't deny the reality of what they are, and they're just the result of the evidence that was presented to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie Bee View Post
    Does anyone else think this might be OOL's wife crying for help?
    Does anyone else think that OOL=the "wife" in the story and OOL=Brock Landers. Both deliver pizza, you know.

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    Alright, OOL. Now tell us how that's all Obama's fault. We're waiting.

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    What's interesting is we've seen several threads started by OOL that are similar to this, pushing the gambling is bad, mmmkay message. Yet he moans over not having PMs -- which should be obvious why to someone that intimates being smarter than the rest of us -- and can't sign up for any gambling contests. It's puzzling, doncha' think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie Bee View Post
    What's interesting is we've seen several threads started by OOL that are similar to this, pushing the gambling is bad, mmmkay message. Yet he moans over not having PMs -- which should be obvious why to someone that intimates being smarter than the rest of us -- and can't sign up for any gambling contests. It's puzzling, doncha' think?
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    Gambling:Our trusted bookkeeper bankrupted our business, 23 employees lost their jobs

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    My husband and I owned a small family business in the construction industry for 10 years in Fenton, Missouri. In our 8th year, we decided to expand, and for the first time we hired a bookkeeper to take over some of the functions we no longer had time to do ourselves. We hired a woman I will call Jane Doe, who we found to be extremely sharp and helpful. She was positive, perky, and funny, and quickly won our hearts. She always seemed to be looking for ways to protect our interests and take on more responsibility. She was meticulously organized. We endearingly called her our "right arm."

    Jane worked for us for a year and a half. When our cash flow got tight during a particularly busy time, we starting looking for investors, thinking that being able to fund construction costs in-house would solve the problem. Just as we were about to bring on our first investor, Jane told us she had been offered another job for more money. After 2 weeks notice, she said a tearful goodbye.

    Immediately after Jane left, we took over the bookkeeping again ourselves, and my husband discovered a problem. Some funds we thought were still receivables at a title company were not there. We went to pull the bank statements and couldn't locate them. In the process, we discovered all of the cancelled checks and bank statements for the time period that Jane worked were missing.

    So, we got copies of a couple of statements from the bank. We found that a large check was deposited, but not entered on our books. We ordered more statements and copies of a few suspicious checks from the bank. When we were sure of what we were looking at, we called the FBI.

    Our nightmare had only begun. We spent hundreds of hours piecing together evidence for the FBI, trying to reconstruct our books, responding to creditors, customers, collectors, and lawsuits, and trying to figure out what taxes were paid and what are missing. It became my full time job, except with no pay.

    All summer long, we begged the bank for copies of our missing checks so we could file an insurance claim. They never came through. Since we could not reconstruct our books and reimbursement from the insurance company was delayed indefinitely by the bank, we turned down all new business at our main location, hoping we could just complete our existing construction projects and pay our bills when the insurance claim went through.

    The FBI traced ATM transactions from Jane's account to three St. Louis area casinos. After Jane was indicted by a federal grand jury, she pleaded guilty to one of three counts, and was released on her own recognizance until sentencing. During those few months, she went out of control. She violated her probation by gambling at the casinos again, tried to steal from another employer, and was arrested in Illinois for shoplifting. At sentencing, Jane told the judge she had a terrible gambling problem, and that she was sorry she hurt her family. She did not apologize to us. The penal code may say the penalty for this type of crime is years but the actual sentencing guidelines often amount to only a few months. Jane got 27 months in federal prison.

    The amount of collateral damage from this crime was huge. It was a domino effect. In early October of 2004, we were forced to close the doors of our business. Our inventory and vehicles were repossessed. Our reputation was damaged. Our credit was ruined. We could not continue to help my husband's children with college. Our personal savings were exhausted. We almost lost our home. Our peace of mind and plans for retirement were gone. At the peak of our business, we had about 23 employees, which we had cut down to a skeletal crew at the end. They all lost their jobs.

    We faced multiple lawsuits against us for money owed and tax liens because Jane had diverted payments but entered them as paid. We dealt daily with ugly phone calls and letters from creditors.

    The stress and emotional impact took its toll. I had to get medication for depression because I was crying all the time. Neither of us could really sleep for several months. My husband was working night and day to try to minimize the damage to everyone. I was busy with the legal mess and piecing together evidence. It strained our marriage. My husband took a new job the next month. We had to file for personal bankruptcy. Then a few months later, my husband had a heart attack. Thankfully, he recovered without major surgery.

    When there is a crime such as this, people assume that all you have to do is rely on the laws, insurance, and guarantees to solve things. In real life, it doesn't work like that. We had insurance. It's been 2 years and they have yet to pay. We thought the bank's policies protected our money. They didn't.

    You may be wondering, "How did you not see this coming?" It's easy to say that. But if you think gambling addiction
    embezzlement couldn't happen to you, you are a prime target. We were a construction company in which large transactions are common. In my research, I found references to the vulnerabilities of doctors, lawyers, auto dealers, small businesses, courts, and non-profit agencies, including churches.

    If you are in business, you are at risk of embezzlement. In many small businesses, owners need to keep overheads low and work long hours. When they find competent, hard working, dependable employees who enjoy their job, they are relieved to find someone they can trust, which plays right into the embezzler's hand.

    People have asked me how I keep going through this long, life-altering experience. I needed a daily reminder to put this ordeal in perspective. In Genesis 50:20, Joseph told his brothers, "And as for you, you meant evil against me, {but} God meant it for good in order to bring about this present result, to preserve many people alive." (NAS)

    Please learn from my experience. Casinos promise money, but bring crime and loss to families and communities. Please help Casino Watch stop them.

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    Willie wins.

    I am still laughing at "Gambling is bad mmmmmmkay".

    Do we have an Eric Cartman among us? Of all the whackanuts among the SBR community--who is our very own Cartman?

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    our eric cartman is english mike

    he is a fat ass with a filthy mouth

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    A 5-week treatment at the facility costs 20000???

    First the articles says 60% of the 4.2 mil gambling addicts in this country make less than 25k a year, then it says a 5 week treatment costs 20k, that's basically a years salary

    Hey honey I no longer have a gambling problem, now I owe 20k to Harbour Pointe instead of my bookie

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    Quote Originally Posted by bettilimbroke999 View Post
    A 5-week treatment at the facility costs 20000???

    First the articles says 60% of the 4.2 mil gambling addicts in this country make less than 25k a year, then it says a 5 week treatment costs 20k, that's basically a years salary

    Hey honey I no longer have a gambling problem, now I owe 20k to Harbour Pointe instead of my bookie
    I missed the cost of that.

    For 4K a week, I can hole up in a very nice Maui locale and cure my gambling ills.

    Only in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinBlank View Post
    I missed the cost of that.

    For 4K a week, I can hole up in a very nice Maui locale and cure my gambling ills.

    Only in America.
    No shit, hell I thought this was like a free program to help compulsive gamblers, 4k a week fuk its cheaper just to keep the gambling problem

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    We hired a woman I will call Jane Doe, who we found to be extremely sharp and helpful.
    Why in the hell would they feel any need whatsoever to protect this person's true identity? I smell fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie Bee View Post
    Why in the hell would they feel any need whatsoever to protect this person's true identity? I smell fish.
    She was a hell of a worker during that 2 week stretch she worked for them and emptied their bank account, they grew attached

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    Just to make it fair, OOL, why don't you include the shopping addiction, sex addiction, internet surfing addiction, stamp collecting addiction, and stock market addiction stories next time as well.

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    the difference between me and every other addict is that i can lower my stakes when my bankroll declines. Thats what ends up killing every addict and that is self control. They cant stop when their down and when their bankroll is low they cant lower their stakes and i feel bad for them. I'm not going to lie in the last 3 years even when i was on vaction with my family and spring break with my friends i checked the lines everyday and i cant even really control it but im sure you all have been there.

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