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  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #1
    MLB : Early Game just for Action -- TB @ Fla
    TB for 0.5%

    Ov8 for 0.5%

  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #2
    no drinking today

    minor hangover
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      pass on game

      It just seems like a crapshoot
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      • Sam Odom
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-30-05
        • 58063

        #4
        probably a good call , jj

        will watch gm... needed a little action on it
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        • Smoke
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-09-09
          • 48111

          #5
          Don't do it sammy
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          • Manny0825
            SBR MVP
            • 10-09-15
            • 1452

            #6
            I like the rays, but also the under. Koehler has been pitching very well as of late. Also, they are coming off a night game. I believe the effort is low today and the score as well. However, bol!
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            • LT Profits
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-27-06
              • 90963

              #7
              I think Rays and Over are legitimately good plays, I would have played those if they were night games too.
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              • PorkChop
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-18-08
                • 8193

                #8
                Like Rays and FF Under
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                • LT Profits
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-27-06
                  • 90963

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Manny0825
                  Koehler has been pitching very well as of late.
                  Not really, the guy was very lucky his last two starts, he had five walks vs. four strikeouts each time yet somehow escaped damage. His xFIP is over 5.00, both my Rays play and Over play are heavily based on Koehler's regression.
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                  • PorkChop
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-18-08
                    • 8193

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                    Not really, the guy was very lucky his last two starts, he had five walks vs. four strikeouts each time yet somehow escaped damage. His xFIP is over 5.00, both my Rays play and Over play are heavily based on Koehler's regression.

                    As long as Koehler isn't walking, he's more than adequate
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                    • Manny0825
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-09-15
                      • 1452

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                      Not really, the guy was very lucky his last two starts, he had five walks vs. four strikeouts each time yet somehow escaped damage. His xFIP is over 5.00, both my Rays play and Over play are heavily based on Koehler's regression.
                      His era in his last 3 starts is 1.83. Compared to his overall era, thats progression.
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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                        I think Rays and Over are legitimately good plays, I would have played those if they were night games too.
                        I agree here. I have TB winning by about a run an a half, translating to value at both the opener and the current levels.

                        I also have a total of nearly 9.5, giving a signal on the OVER.

                        We are currently seeing a hefty amount of tickets on both TB and the Over, including line and price movement towards those two.

                        Most bettors like TB but I can see a few forecasts that produce totals between 7 and 8.5, giving a little more of a split on the total bets.

                        As far as the morning goes, I don't generally like this type of game winner alignment so early in the day, as it becomes a "parlay killer." That said, we are seeing value on the TB side with an hour to go until game time.

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                        • RubberKettle
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-28-09
                          • 6421

                          #13
                          Sammy dont fuk me here
                          Craving action bigtime
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Manny0825
                            His era in his last 3 starts is 1.83. Compared to his overall era, thats progression.
                            Means nothing when he had 12 walks vs. 16 strikeouts in 19.2 innings in those starts. That is why ERA is usually a useless stat.

                            Looking at his year-to-date, he has a 4.71 ERA, 4.44 FIP and 5.23 xFIP, so the 4.71 overall ERA seems like the better gauge of his true ability than the last three starts. But frankly, you'd be better off not even looking at ERA and just using peripheral stats.

                            Perfect example is David Price, he has a 5.53 ERA and my model rates him as around the sixth best pitcher in baseball right now.
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                            • LT Profits
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-27-06
                              • 90963

                              #15
                              Originally posted by KVB
                              I agree here. I have TB winning by about a run an a half, translating to value at both the opener and the current levels.

                              I also have a total of nearly 9.5, giving a signal on the OVER.

                              We are currently seeing a hefty amount of tickets on both TB and the Over, including line and price movement towards those two.

                              Most bettors like TB but I can see a few forecasts that produce totals between 7 and 8.5, giving a little more of a split on the total bets.

                              As far as the morning goes, I don't generally like this type of game winner alignment so early in the day, as it becomes a "parlay killer." That said, we are seeing value on the TB side with an hour to go until game time.

                              Seems we agree, my model has 9.3 total.
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                              • BeanTownClown88
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-08-13
                                • 1961

                                #16
                                Fk it..TB it is
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                                • iloseagain
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 06-29-10
                                  • 10681

                                  #17
                                  Koehler doing what he does best
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                                  • PorkChop
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-18-08
                                    • 8193

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by PorkChop
                                    Like Rays and FF Under


                                    Under better not F me here
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                                    • iloseagain
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 06-29-10
                                      • 10681

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by PorkChop
                                      Under better not F me here
                                      better than the bottom of the 5th
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                                      • l7ustin
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-09-08
                                        • 3914

                                        #20
                                        Just turned this on took Miami +2.5 at even money, we can still both win
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                                        • iloseagain
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 06-29-10
                                          • 10681

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by l7ustin
                                          Just turned this on took Miami +2.5 at even money, we can still both win
                                          good bet unless tb gets a couple here
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                                          • LT Profits
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-27-06
                                            • 90963

                                            #22
                                            The Rays not scoring as much as they should have vs. Koehler could ruin the Over. But I would take the split as long as they hold on to win.
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                                            • PorkChop
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-18-08
                                              • 8193

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by PorkChop
                                              Like Rays and FF Under

                                              Boom, boom.
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                                              • Sam Odom
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 10-30-05
                                                • 58063

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                TB for 0.5%

                                                Ov8 for 0.5%

                                                would be just awful to lose both with 3-4 score
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                                                • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 11-30-08
                                                  • 81450

                                                  #25
                                                  Sammy, its time to crack a beer!
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                                                  • Sam Odom
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-30-05
                                                    • 58063

                                                    #26
                                                    just now beginning to feel 'normal' from yesterday's drinking

                                                    passing today
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                                                    • l7ustin
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-09-08
                                                      • 3914

                                                      #27
                                                      im about to get started, going to the rangers game tonight.
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                                                      • Sam Odom
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-30-05
                                                        • 58063

                                                        #28
                                                        cannot lose both now
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                                                        • l7ustin
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-09-08
                                                          • 3914

                                                          #29
                                                          Exciting game, glad i got half of it. 4 beers in. Sammy you like angels or rangers tonight
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                                                          • Manny0825
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-09-15
                                                            • 1452

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Manny0825
                                                            I like the rays, but also the under. Koehler has been pitching very well as of late. Also, they are coming off a night game. I believe the effort is low today and the score as well. However, bol!
                                                            Called it.
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                                                            • Sam Odom
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-30-05
                                                              • 58063

                                                              #31
                                                              good call
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