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  • daneblazer
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 09-14-08
    • 27861

    #1
    The two post important poker stats
    VPIP & PFR

    If you don't know what they mean, look them up.

    Very basic, but all the difference in the world

  • CanuckG
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-23-10
    • 21978

    #2
    Yes. Most poker tracker software have this.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      lol

      poker??

      lol
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      • RudyRuetigger
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-24-10
        • 65084

        #4
        this 2008 or what??
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        • daneblazer
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 09-14-08
          • 27861

          #5
          Originally posted by CanuckG
          Yes. Most poker tracker software have this.
          yes...

          and... if you are a pro....you put live players on vpip/pfr too
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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #6
            It's very easy to fool players using this type of software, they are inherent suckers. Very easy.

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            • Dr.Gonzo
              SBR MVP
              • 12-05-09
              • 4660

              #7
              Originally posted by daneblazer
              yes...

              and... if you are a pro....you put live players on vpip/pfr too
              Not enough, you need to know their range and take into consideration how their range changes situationally.

              A top heavy range is very different from a balanced range, a player might be loose against fish but nitty against regs.
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #8
                Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                Not enough, you need to know their range and take into consideration how their range changes situationally.

                A top heavy range is very different from a balanced range, a player might be loose against fish but nitty against regs.
                I couldn't agree more, very situational.
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                • Dirty Sanchez
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-01-10
                  • 16031

                  #9
                  Only thing I know about Poker is every time I see it here at SBR I see that guy Bobby Waves whining about the totals being wrong
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    omg I am on the floor laughing here

                    poker was gone 7 years ago

                    all the pros broke too
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                    • Dr.Gonzo
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-05-09
                      • 4660

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      omg I am on the floor laughing here

                      poker was gone 7 years ago

                      all the pros broke too
                      You can make a living out of live poker in Vegas or Cali.

                      How many people are doing that out of sports?
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                      • gauchojake
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 09-17-10
                        • 34109

                        #12
                        Daner uses a HUD for SBR poker
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          most people in Vegas pal are broke playing daily poker including so called pros

                          It is a game of chance as the word Pro goes out the door

                          NFL is not a game of chance meaning players..They are PROS because some clown off the street cannot even touch them but in poker an 8th grader can win a poker tourney with 10 other pros in it

                          GAME OVER
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                          • gauchojake
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                            • 09-17-10
                            • 34109

                            #14
                            remember when jj was a poker pro? good times...
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                            • Dr.Gonzo
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-05-09
                              • 4660

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              most people in Vegas pal are broke playing daily poker including so called pros

                              It is a game of chance as the word Pro goes out the door

                              NFL is not a game of chance meaning players..They are PROS because some clown off the street cannot even touch them but in poker an 8th grader can win a poker tourney with 10 other pros in it

                              GAME OVER
                              And Billy Walters could be on the wrong side of a game whilst an 8th grader is on the winner, what kind of result orientated nonsense is this?

                              To be a pro you simply need to have a positive hourly expectation that allows you a livable income and put in work.

                              I agree, the poker balla is a myth but the grinding cash game pro is not.

                              I'm not in the US but I bet horses for a living, and if I was in the US I'd be in Cali playing poker.
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                              • gauchojake
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 09-17-10
                                • 34109

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                And Billy Walters could be on the wrong side of a game whilst an 8th grader is on the winner, what kind of result orientated nonsense is this?

                                To be a pro you simply need to have a positive hourly expectation that allows you a livable income and put in work.

                                I agree, the poker balla is a myth but the grinding cash game pro is not.

                                I'm not in the US but I bet horses for a living, and if I was in the US I'd be in Cali playing poker.
                                jj's head is going to fukkin explode like that dude in scanners
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                                • Ballerholic
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-16-13
                                  • 2767

                                  #17
                                  i'm always doing something else when playing sbr poker so I don't pay attention to other players, but can you imagine if you had a HUD for these games? Literally shooting fish in a barrel, as if it wasn't already...
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                                  • Auto Donk
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-03-13
                                    • 43558

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    most people in Vegas pal are broke playing daily poker including so called pros

                                    It is a game of chance as the word Pro goes out the door

                                    NFL is not a game of chance meaning players..They are PROS because some clown off the street cannot even touch them but in poker an 8th grader can win a poker tourney with 10 other pros in it

                                    GAME OVER
                                    penetrate all those acronyms JJ, but you better mutha fukkin' remember I'm a mutha fuckin' VIP and PIMP!!!!
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                                    • daneblazer
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 09-14-08
                                      • 27861

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Ballerholic
                                      i'm always doing something else when playing sbr poker so I don't pay attention to other players, but can you imagine if you had a HUD for these games? Literally shooting fish in a barrel, as if it wasn't already...

                                      Indicator works for SBR. It makes the rigged threads all the more funny when you see the guy playing 60/10 poker
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                                      • gauchojake
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 09-17-10
                                        • 34109

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by daneblazer
                                        Indicator works for SBR. It makes the rigged threads all the more funny when you see the guy playing 60/10 poker
                                        Gimme my stats daner. Sample size probably pretty low.
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                          And Billy Walters could be on the wrong side of a game whilst an 8th grader is on the winner, what kind of result orientated nonsense is this?

                                          To be a pro you simply need to have a positive hourly expectation that allows you a livable income and put in work.

                                          I agree, the poker balla is a myth but the grinding cash game pro is not.

                                          I'm not in the US but I bet horses for a living, and if I was in the US I'd be in Cali playing poker.
                                          Walters made 85% Of his money booking and real estate not sports betting
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                                          • bobbywaves
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-06-08
                                            • 13280

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
                                            Only thing I know about Poker is every time I see it here at SBR I see that guy Bobby Waves whining about the totals being wrong
                                            If I had ever done this, then the totals were obviously wrong. It would be a public service announcement by bringing it to Sammy's attention, not whining.

                                            Obviously you know nothing about poker, as your lack of poker badges & broke dikk status clearly indicate.
                                            Last edited by bobbywaves; 02-24-16, 03:47 PM.
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                                            • daneblazer
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 09-14-08
                                              • 27861

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by gauchojake
                                              Gimme my stats daner. Sample size probably pretty low.

                                              I may run it tonight if I have time. gotta do some work on my laptop. indicator resets after every session, so I don't have history
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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by daneblazer
                                                Indicator works for SBR. It makes the rigged threads all the more funny when you see the guy playing 60/10 poker
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                                                • boscokid
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-03-10
                                                  • 1496

                                                  #25
                                                  What percent of SBR players would still lose even if we played the cards face up? 30-40% ?
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by boscokid
                                                    What percent of SBR players would still lose even if we played the cards face up? 30-40% ?
                                                    Some guys would never win as they always raise pre flop with shit cards, somehow thinking they are "bluffing."

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                                                    • daneblazer
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 09-14-08
                                                      • 27861

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                                      Not enough, you need to know their range and take into consideration how their range changes situationally.

                                                      A top heavy range is very different from a balanced range, a player might be loose against fish but nitty against regs.

                                                      Gonzo I'm not trying to get too in depth here. You have always been one of the sharpest posters here
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                                                      • adila1401
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-16-11
                                                        • 2014

                                                        #28
                                                        Wait, why is this news? Most people have known this for a while.
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                                                        • sweethook
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-21-07
                                                          • 12667

                                                          #29
                                                          you cant just like poker a lot , you have to love poker to make a living at it ,
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                                                          • Optional
                                                            Administrator
                                                            • 06-10-10
                                                            • 61356

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by daneblazer


                                                            Gonzo I'm not trying to get too in depth here. You have always been one of the sharpest posters here
                                                            Google tells me these two stats basically tell you their range.

                                                            How else do you find their range first and why are these stats so important if you need to work that out some other way?

                                                            (you asked me to google it)
                                                            .
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                                                            • yahoonino
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-10-07
                                                              • 2651

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                                              most people in Vegas pal are broke playing daily poker including so called pros

                                                              It is a game of chance as the word Pro goes out the door

                                                              NFL is not a game of chance meaning players..They are PROS because some clown off the street cannot even touch them but in poker an 8th grader can win a poker tourney with 10 other pros in it

                                                              GAME OVER
                                                              I agree
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