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    focused83
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    Able to change bets on a online crap table need help to know how to profit from it

    I know I am new to this forum and I know this isn't a craps forum but I was hoping someone would be able to help if they don't mind. I had a program coded for me about a year ago and it was supposed to allow me to be able to change the outcome of spin on a roulette table it was based around the nogir script well it never worked there were so many more elements I and coder didn't consider anyhow I was messing around with it again lastnight and realized I could roll on a craps game with no risk at all usually at this casino you need to put a risk bet to get the roll button to activate but I am able to do this without it at all so I began looking at what else I could do and I can do the following

    1. I can spin without any risk at all I can keep spinning until I see a 7’s a row etc.
    2. I can place chips on the board anywhere at anytime except the pass line and the dont pass line but I can place them anywhere else on the board providing that I have the amount in my game account if not the amount will be -1. An example is say I put chips on 4,5,6,8,9,10 I can take those chips off and place them back on whenever I like or anywhere else on the board minus the pass and dont pass line.
    3. I can place bets on the pass and dont pass at the start and I can take them off after the first spin all of them without penalty.
    I’m sure there is more I could do but again I really dont know a thing about craps so if anyone has any advice on what I could do or a strategy again I would be grateful.
    I WILL reward the person if their strategy works (If there is even one with the above little tricks for now I’ve been waiting till I see three 7’s in a row and I start betting it hasnt lost yet eventhough I’m sure one will eventually come with 4 sevens in a row,

    I will pay also for help if its actually a proper strategy I don’t mind paying first. if anyone has skype also feel free to add me ngrant1983

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    SO let me get this straight. You can past post on a craps table and you posted about it on a public internet forum asking strangers for advice? Is your google broken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindTheLock View Post
    SO let me get this straight. You can past post on a craps table and you posted about it on a public internet forum asking strangers for advice? Is your google broken?
    Sorry I literally came here for help.. I don't even know why everyone is upset.. Is it possible to get help with this at all or can you tell me what I did wrong? I am completely lost.

    I did try youtube I'm just asking if any of those things I can do on the game could I exploit if money is the issue I don't mind paying for the advice..

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    All these things you are doing in 2 and 3 are able to be done all the time by any player, anyone can bet numbers and take them off anytime they want.Except fpr the following paragraph.

    The only way that you would be able to make BIG money would be if you could bet the pass line,,,then after any point is made take it off,so in essence you would be betting a 7 or 11 on your side vs 2-12,but you CAN'T take the pass line bet down after a number has been established...AS YOU STATE, SO IT'S A MUTE POINT.

    Taking down a don't pass bet after a point has been established is allowed because you now have an edge....so of course the casino would allow you to remove a bet that is +ev,you'd have to be semi stupid to do this ,because leaving it up and now placing the same point would leave you in a push or win situation.

    To sumarize for you,

    The only way to gaurantee yourself a good way to cheat,because this is what you are asking,is if your program can take down your pass line bet after any number has come out.
    Last edited by Al Masters; 01-27-12 at 09:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Masters View Post
    All these things you are doing in 2 and 3 are able to be done all the time by any player, anyone can bet numbers and take them off anytime they want.Except fpr the following paragraph.

    The only way that you would be able to make BIG money would be if you could bet the pass line,,,then after any point is made take it off,so in essence you would be betting a 7 or 11 on your side vs 2-12,but you CAN'T take the pass line bet down after a number has been established...AS YOU STATE, SO IT'S A MUTE POINT.

    Taking down a don't pass bet after a point has been established is allowed because you now have an edge....so of course the casino would allow you to remove a bet that is +ev,you'd have to be semi stupid to do this ,because leaving it up and now placing the same point would leave you in a push or win situation.

    To sumarize for you,

    The only way to gaurantee yourself a good way to cheat,because this is what you are asking,is if your program can take down your pass line bet after any number has come out.
    Thank for the response I will try to take it down I did try a few times. Could you tell me a few other things that you usually can't do and I can try with the program or is taking down the pass line bet the only thing that is beneficial? Is there any opportunities that are better than others to bet on certain elements on the board?

    and thanks in advance for your answer I appreciate any help at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Masters View Post
    All these things you are doing in 2 and 3 are able to be done all the time by any player, anyone can bet numbers and take them off anytime they want.Except fpr the following paragraph.

    The only way that you would be able to make BIG money would be if you could bet the pass line,,,then after any point is made take it off,so in essence you would be betting a 7 or 11 on your side vs 2-12,but you CAN'T take the pass line bet down after a number has been established...AS YOU STATE, SO IT'S A MUTE POINT.

    Taking down a don't pass bet after a point has been established is allowed because you now have an edge....so of course the casino would allow you to remove a bet that is +ev,you'd have to be semi stupid to do this ,because leaving it up and now placing the same point would leave you in a push or win situation.

    To sumarize for you,

    The only way to gaurantee yourself a good way to cheat,because this is what you are asking,is if your program can take down your pass line bet after any number has come out.
    Ok if you are still online and can see this I can do this to start the game I put a bet on the pass and don't pass line. I spin and take them all off. I can I realized put a bet either on the pass or dont pass line after the point is established am I right in thinking I should put the bet now on the dont pass line and leave the pass line empty? because I can do this? Please ignore my ignorance

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    wtf is this rookie shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninersnut View Post
    wtf is this rookie shit?
    Seriously sorry if I'm annoying anyone with the questions. I usually only play roulette have never played craps I did look at the rules of the game and do understand most of it but wasn't sure if anything I can do with my program would somewhat give me advantage I do think that the last guy was right though I'm placing the bet on the past line right after I clear the DP and The PL I just put it back to the DP line and nothing on the PL. I think it is doing something but I'll keep experimenting. Sincerely sorry if I upset anyone with the questions just again I never play craps so just wanted advice.

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    Jump off a fukkin cliff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke View Post
    Do the world a favor

    Jump off a fukkin cliff
    .. seriously what did I do wrong again..

    it's ok no one has to give me advice and I apologize for asking here I didn't know it wasn't allowed.
    Last edited by focused83; 01-27-12 at 10:04 PM.

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    You don't need a tutorial on how to rig a craps table with a program that "lets" you cheat. You need a tutorial on how to play craps at it's most basic level. How can you cheat if you don't know how to play? Go google the game and then figure out what your program can do that you can't do without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindTheLock View Post
    You don't need a tutorial on how to rig a craps table with a program that "lets" you cheat. You need a tutorial on how to play craps at it's most basic level. How can you cheat if you don't know how to play? Go google the game and then figure out what your program can do that you can't do without it.
    I will and you are right I should study the basics more before asking. Sorry for upsetting anyone on here with my questions. Won't happen again.

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    don't worry dude...it's all just rejects on here, don't get scared off but it sounds like you should just learn basic strategy and go from there...bet the pass line only and then take it off if it wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrozenMAN View Post
    don't worry dude...it's all just rejects on here, don't get scared off but it sounds like you should just learn basic strategy and go from there...bet the pass line only and then take it off if it wins
    Thanks for your comment. I'm looking at some youtube videos on craps beginner tutorials now. I'll focus on the pass line and dont pass line though I know my program can take them off and on whenever so I know that must be a strategy somewhere I'll find it and thanks again for being helpful.

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    I used to past-post (cap) my 'dont pass' line bets after the # was established - had to be a full busy table downtown vegas with rookie dealers

    that was long long long time ago , I've since made amends

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    I used to past-post (cap) my 'dont pass' line bets after the # was established - had to be a full busy table downtown vegas with rookie dealers

    that was long long long time ago , I've since made amends

    I looked at some videos does anyone think this is a good strategy since 6 and 8 is the best numbers to be rolled out would it be best to wait till one of those becomes a point than bet on pass line with max pass line odds?

    Since I can spin for free until I get a 6 or 8

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    GTFO.No wait is this system for sale?I need to win points bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fieldysnuts44 View Post
    GTFO.No wait is this system for sale?I need to win points bad.
    The pass line and max odds strategy I saw on youtube just now.

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    I'd look at controlled dice throwing as I've had lots of luck online doing it... With your software it should be golden...

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    @ LV

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    hey focused. i can understand completely having lived in vegas for 15 years.

    i dont like to give out to much "secret" advice. gamblers sworn to secrecy. and craps secrets go for a premium around town.

    butt hair u go.


    http://www.pokerblog.com/news/wynn-c...-cheating.html

    gl. to u sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVHerbie View Post
    I'd look at controlled dice throwing as I've had lots of luck online doing it... With your software it should be golden...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vividjohn45 View Post
    hey focused. i can understand completely having lived in vegas for 15 years.

    i dont like to give out to much "secret" advice. gamblers sworn to secrecy. and craps secrets go for a premium around town.

    butt hair u go.


    http://www.pokerblog.com/news/wynn-c...-cheating.html

    gl. to u sir.
    Thank you for that and also for those who pm'd me asking what else I can do or did not know my meanings here is a better explanation with examples With my program I don’t have to put any bets on the pass line or the dont pass line I can establish a point without any risk with the program and still get a point established and still bet.Example : I put 1 dollar on the pass line and 1 dollar on the don’t pass line at the start I use my software and take away both bets but the game still thinks I have bets on the table eventhough there is none on the table anymore the game spins and I’m able to get a point established and bet anywhere else on the board except the pl and don’t pass line. Is there a strategy I can use if I can do that? I know you usually wouldn’t be able to but I am able to do this. Please any help would be greatly appreciated. I don’t know how to say it again but I can place bets on the table anywhere else except the PL and the Don’t Pass line after the game is in session and I can also change the amount of those bets an example of this I place 1 dollar on 4,5,6,8,9,10 I can change that to any amount anytime during play or anywhere else on the board this included the come and field sections and all over. I can take away the money also when it expects me to bet an example is that I see that when a point is established it and the white chip says on it won’t let me spin for free but wants me to bet but I can spin for free still with my program an example of this is I have now got lets say 8 as a point the roll button will not activate until there are bets on the table but I can with the program bypass this and still spin for free with no risk. I hope that clarifies a bit more again I am sure I can do alot more with the program I just don’t know what to look for to try. I did look at some youtube videos which is why I thought since I could spin for free with no risk is to wait till I get a point like 6 or 8 since those number have the best dice combo to come out than I could bet the pass line with max pass line odds that a 6 or 8 will rolled? I did try it and it worked several times just don’t know how good of a strategy that actually is. Anyhow please anyone with more advice can you help even if its suggestions on things to check that the program will do. I will give the program I coded for FREE or money for help of a strategy that will help me monopolize on these factors that the game normally block me from doing etc.

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    I have a bridge for sale, if anyone is interested.
    Quite old but still fully functional. Will arrange delivery as soon as payment is received.



    Anyone interested can skype me at 1borneveryminute

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourLengthsClear View Post
    I have a bridge for sale, if anyone is interested.
    Quite old but still fully functional. Will arrange delivery as soon as payment is received.



    Anyone interested can skype me at 1borneveryminute
    that's a nice bridge man! I bet you had to save up for a while to get your hands on that! How much are you looking to sell it for?

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    I now know how to make a dice roll a certain number all the time. I had help on another forum. Thank you all who PM'd me here and those who helped on skype those who helped I will send them money when I get my withdrawal (especially two members on here who were patient enough to show me the basics through teamviewer)

    Thank you
    Last edited by focused83; 01-28-12 at 04:01 PM.

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    Welcome to sbr u cheatin sumbitch!!!

    I like this guy already.

    Never fukkin heard of you but give us a winner pal. Common!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiggityDaggityDo View Post
    Welcome to sbr u cheatin sumbitch!!!

    I like this guy already.

    Never fukkin heard of you but give us a winner pal. Common!!!
    Thank you and for those who PM'd me asking if I need anymore help I do not. Thanks to the two people on here and one person from another forum I did like I said now know how to get the dice to roll a certain number and due to that know exactly where to bet now. I never asked for money but said the opposite and will NEVER ask anyone for money for anything online. Thanks again to the people who were kind enough to respond on here and I guess I can thank the people who wrote rude comments also because it literally brought the good people to me who helped. I honestly probably will never share this but again I will reward the two members who helped me on here tremendously. Happy exploits. Happy Botiting. Good luck to you all.

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    Just a video of my exploit working I AM NOT SELLING IT just posting it to show people my success. Thanks again for all those who helped I have now cashed out more than 6 times.


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    Yea, and your broken english isn't shady or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjaycuny View Post
    Yea, and your broken english isn't shady or anything.
    Don't really care for the rude comments just posting my success. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by focused83 View Post
    Just a video of my exploit working I AM NOT SELLING IT just posting it to show people my success. Thanks again for all those who helped I have now cashed out more than 6 times.



    Pretty clear that you incorporated my ideas of controlled rolling into this so feel free to add me on the payment list...

    Until the first check arrives I'm not above accepting SBR's points (note the gold coin below my post)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVHerbie View Post


    Pretty clear that you incorporated my ideas of controlled rolling into this so feel free to add me on the payment list...

    Until the first check arrives I'm not above accepting SBR's points (note the gold coin below my post)...
    well wasnt controlled rolling lol semi controlled by a program I guess and I will consider sending you some funds. Thanks for your fun comment though appreciate those unlike the rude ones.

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