[opie1988]

Shut up and learn from ur superiors u illiterate fukk for im only saying this once....
If u check my record across multiple forums over multiple years u will see clearly that i am a winning player. One of only a handful or two that can say so...If anything im more qualified to go tout than most here...
So y then if im a winning capper would i pay someone $20 for 2 months access to picks?? Why not?? Heard the guy was solid and for the large part this was correct. 1st and only time ive paid someone though...
So all of a sudden u have issues with creative investing??? Isnt ur country in like $15 trillion of debt from those who use 'creative' investing to send u back 25 years?? Yet u choose to rag on a single individual...Says so much about ur character by saying very little...

Cooch-

How much would I need to "donate" for your plays??

[SportsMushroom]

So y then if im a winning capper would i pay someone $20 for 2 months access to picks?? Why not?? Heard the guy was solid and for the large part this was correct. 1st and only time ive paid someone though...
So all of a sudden u have issues with creative investing???

thank you for proving my point, yes you paid because you heard he was good, no you didnt continue paying because he was not as good as advertised. like every tout

If anything im more qualified to go tout than most here[b]

yes that is why you are defending him, you want to go tout too

Shut up and learn from ur superiors u illiterate fukk for im only saying this once.... If u check my record across multiple forums over multiple years u will see clearly that i am a winning player. [b]One of only a handful or two that can say so...

yes a winning player that has the time or desire to post on multiple forums and pays for touts, you have everyone convinced

Yet u choose to rag on a single individual...Says so much about ur character by saying very little...

I did not rag on him, I repeatedly asked you to quote me raging him but you havent yet

Shut up and learn from ur superiors u illiterate fukk for im only saying this once.... Isnt ur country in like $15 trillion of debt from those who use 'creative' investing to send u back 25 years??

you insult me even though I havent insulted you, sign that you have no point to make and are using alternate tactics to try and convince everyone I dont know what I am talking about


also you assume I am from the US, you know what they say, when you assume, you are an ass

[Iwinyourmoney]

noone in this thread said he was a bad person yet you felt the need to point out that he is not


you are projecting your own thoughts, because in your mind what he did is not what good people do

wtf are you talking about. Who cares if he's a tout? Dont pay em if you dont want his picks.

[SportsMushroom]

wtf are you talking about. Who cares if he's a tout? Dont pay em if you dont want his picks.

If I was really that bored, I would sit down for a few hours so that I could sift through you posting history, find a post were you bash touts, quote it in here and call you a hypocrite, alas I will not so you can continue to pretend like this thread is meaningless

[Iwinyourmoney]

If I was really that bored, I would sit down for a few hours so that I could sift through you posting history, find a post were you bash touts, quote it in here and call you a hypocrite, alas I will not so you can continue to act like this thread is meaningless

Cause you wont. Sounds like your hurt that you can't get his plays for free anymore.

I think people who buy plays are stupid. I think touts sell their plays cause they arent as successful as they wish they really where. I think both side of the field are retarded.....the concept of it, not the person as a whole

[RudyRuetigger]

Good thread mushroom. You are taking unnecessary bashing and everyone against you has given pretty fukkin piss poor reasons

This forum should be here to protect the bettors, not help solicit touts.

[SportsMushroom]

Good thread mushroom. You are taking unnecessary bashing and everyone against you has given pretty fukkin piss poor reasons

This forum should be here to protect the bettors, not help solicit touts.

thank you sir

[SportsMushroom]

Cause you wont. Sounds like your hurt that you can't get his plays for free anymore.

I think people who buy plays are stupid. I think touts sell their plays cause they arent as successful as they wish they really where. I think both side of the field are retarded.....the concept of it, not the person as a whole

I dont agree with some stuff and agree with others

been gambling for probably around 12 years, maybe more


all this time have never once paid for picks, and have maybe followed someone elses picks, not more than 3-4 times

gambling is fun when you make your own picks not when you follow someone elses so I am not mad that I cant get pimikes plays for free


I would agree that the concept of touting is horrible, but as long as there are people willing to pay for it, there will be people trying to take advantage

[305GURU]

Met PI at the bash, cool dude, tout or not

[SportsMushroom]

Met PI at the bash, cool dude, tout or not

did I say anything bad about the guy?


I just pointed out that he is a tout that is obtaining personal information through sbr and uses it to promote his service, which he cleverly masks as a 'charity'


jesus fuking christ people act like I verbally assaulted the guy


people read what they want to read, I would have added a comment about how people do so because they are idiots but then I guess people will focus more on the fact of me cussing rather than the point I am trying to make

[raydog]

give mikey a break man...he is beginning to realize that the whole "god" thing is a fairy tale and he has been a loyal sheep to it all his life...he is depressed enough

[Mr. Lucky]

PIMike is my friend. I have been following his plays for the last 4 years. He taught me money management and has made playing fun. PIMike is responsible and cares. He is the only service that wins money every month and every year. I only lose when I pick my own plays, like stanford, packers, and 49ers and mikes plays have saved me from reloading. I would tell my own mommy to play his picks. Yes, I'm a shrill for him because I love money, winning and life. I even met him at the sbr bash in Vegas. My wife loves her silicon boobs that mikes plays won for her. This man changed my life for the better and he is worth a lot more than he charges.

[zsr]

WTF do you care if the guys a tout or not?

Also Lol at people thinking sbr is here to protect the bettor, they were before the point system, now there here to make money. They couldn't care less about the bettor, as long as there getting a piece of the action.

[SportsMushroom]

WTF do you care if the guys a tout or not?

Also Lol at people thinking sbr is here to protect the bettor, they were before the point system, now there here to make money. They couldn't care less about the bettor, as long as there getting a piece of the action.

a good part of the threads on sbr are people talking about touts, I wonder if you go in all of them and ask the OP what does he care! if you dont then you are a hypocrite and stop replying


sbr still protects the player, whenever someone posts something negative about a book they never take it down or censor it, even if it regards a sponsor, and when someone fills in a complaint form they always investigate and reach a fair decision

also this thread was not about protecting anyone, its just that touting is frowned upon by most posters, and when posters go tout most people consider them as scammers or traitors and bash them on here, yet noone seemed to be bothered or even realize what pimike was doing on here, which was offering free picks and then asking for a donation in order to continue giving out his 'free' picks

[zsr]

a good part of the threads on sbr are people talking about touts, I wonder if you go in all of them and ask the OP what does he care! if you dont then you are a hypocrite and stop replying


sbr still protects the player, whenever someone posts something negative about a book they never take it down or censor it, even if it regards a sponsor, and when someone fills in a complaint form they always investigate and reach a fair decision

also this thread was not about protecting anyone, its just that touting is frowned upon by most posters, and when posters go tout most people consider them as scammers or traitors and bash them on here, yet noone seemed to be bothered or even realize what pimike was doing on here, which was offering free picks and then asking for a donation

Just seems odd that you care so much about this guy, when no one else seems to give a shit.

Especially funny because you go into every thread and rant and complain about what everybody posts, but when everyone does it to your thread, you flip out

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Why do people care if someone touts their picks? If people are willing to buy it thats their choice. Why would you hate on someone for it. Its one thing if they are touting the forum by spamming but thats not the case. I dont see people mad at portfolio managers in the stock market of poker players that get staked. Some reason everyone has a hard on for hating anyone who can sell sportsbetting picks though.

[SportsMushroom]

Just seems odd that you care so much about this guy, when no one else seems to give a shit.

Especially funny because you go into every thread and rant and complain about what everybody posts, but when everyone does it to your thread, you flip out

is there a zsr dictionary out there? I searched on amazon but couldnt find it


you must have your own dictionary though because flip out in your dictionary must mean responded to every point with reasonable arguments and facts

and as evidenced by your latest reply, the only reason you are in this thread is because you dont like me, which makes anything you say in this thread subjective and irrelevant

[RudyRuetigger]

Also Lol at people thinking sbr is here to protect the bettor, they were before the point system, now there here to make money. They couldn't care less about the bettor, as long as there getting a piece of the action.

i have come to the realization you are too stupid to warrant a meaningful response.

[lakerboy]

PIMike is my friend. I have been following his plays for the last 4 years. He taught me money management and has made playing fun. PIMike is responsible and cares. He is the only service that wins money every month and every year. I only lose when I pick my own plays, like stanford, packers, and 49ers and mikes plays have saved me from reloading. I would tell my own mommy to play his picks. Yes, I'm a shrill for him because I love money, winning and life. I even met him at the sbr bash in Vegas. My wife loves her silicon boobs that mikes plays won for her. This man changed my life for the better and he is worth a lot more than he charges.

[rickbo528]

PIMike is my friend. I have been following his plays for the last 4 years. He taught me money management and has made playing fun. PIMike is responsible and cares. He is the only service that wins money every month and every year. I only lose when I pick my own plays, like stanford, packers, and 49ers and mikes plays have saved me from reloading. I would tell my own mommy to play his picks. Yes, I'm a shrill for him because I love money, winning and life. I even met him at the sbr bash in Vegas. My wife loves her silicon boobs that mikes plays won for her. This man changed my life for the better and he is worth a lot more than he charges.

Exactly!!!!!!!! I've been following his plays for a couple years now. I used to always reload when I was picking my own plays. But since I have been following him I have made several withdrawals which have paid for trips to Vegas. I've spent time in Vegas with Mike where I have tried to learn all the angles to capping. So I'm not sure why some are so down on a good person who helps people like myself win who would otherwise be losing and reloading. Only time I lose much is when I stray and pick my own plays.

[zsr]

i have come to the realization you are too stupid to warrant a meaningful response.

Go bitch and whine about how someone hit n ran you for 10 cents

[FrozenMAN]

he's just another tout....the donations thing was funny

[SportsMushroom]

Go bitch and whine about how someone hit n ran you for 10 cents

judges are with rudy on this one

dude you claim sbr is corrupt and working against the player yet you pay for and use their product every day, you obviously dont have good judgement or have no understanding of the meaning of the word 'irony'

[Walter Abrams Jr]

Why do people care if someone touts their picks? If people are willing to buy it thats their choice. Why would you hate on someone for it. Its one thing if they are touting the forum by spamming but thats not the case. I dont see people mad at portfolio managers in the stock market of poker players that get staked. Some reason everyone has a hard on for hating anyone who can sell sportsbetting picks though.

If you read through the older threads he touted harold camping and touted a scam sportsbook. He did both here at SBR with immunity. I dont think mushroom is hating. I just think he is pointing out he is protected here for whatever reason.

[Walter Abrams Jr]

Exactly!!!!!!!! I've been following his plays for a couple years now. I used to always reload when I was picking my own plays. But since I have been following him I have made several withdrawals which have paid for trips to Vegas. I've spent time in Vegas with Mike where I have tried to learn all the angles to capping. So I'm not sure why some are so down on a good person who helps people like myself win who would otherwise be losing and reloading. Only time I lose much is when I stray and pick my own plays.

There are some really dumb people in this world.

[mikemca]

I watched pimike transition from poster to tout.I called it beforehand as did a few other people and in the beginning caught him doing some shady things on his tout site like taking down losing picks.I've never tailed him or had anything to do with him. It just annoyed the hell out of me that he kept denying,denying,denying that he was trying to be a tout and then popped up asking for donations from a site that he says his kid gave him(lol). He acts like everyone is stupid by the shyt he does and says. Eventually I gave up because as you can see he seems to have a few followers who, I guess prove the last sentence correct if they buy into his bs . Maybe the problem he ran into is that his followers are $10 bettors.

[SportsMushroom]

If you read through the older threads he touted harold camping and touted a scam sportsbook. He did both here at SBR with immunity. I dont think mushroom is hating. I just think he is pointing out he is protected here for whatever reason.

thank you sir, thank god there is someone in this world able of reading and comprehending the english language

I watched pimike transition from poster to tout.I called it beforehand as did a few other people and in the beginning caught him doing some shady things on his tout site like taking down losing picks.I've never tailed him or had anything to do with him. It just annoyed the hell out of me that he kept denying,denying,denying that he was trying to be a tout and then popped up asking for donations from a site that he says his kid gave him(lol). He acts like everyone is stupid by the shyt he does and says. Eventually I gave up because as you can see he seems to have a few followers who, I guess prove the last sentence correct if they buy into his bs . Maybe the problem he ran into is that his followers are $10 bettors.

really? I swear I had no idea he was erasing losers from his record

[zsr]

judges are with rudy on this one

dude you claim sbr is corrupt and working against the player yet you pay for and use their product every day, you obviously dont have good judgement or have no understanding of the meaning of the word 'irony'

Lol. Mushroom, the only reason you started this thread is because you, as usual, went into a thread and attacked someone(pimike) calling him shill/liar because he posted a heritage line, you claimed there's no way the line is legit he's a liar blah blah blah, and as usual you were wrong, so you got mad and resorted to this thread.

Some guy on an anonymous Internet forum being a tout has nothing to do with you. Not sure why you care so much, actually I am sure, like I said in the first paragraph,

[The Kraken]

I certainly don't have a problem with him touting. I think we all agree he has the right to sell his plays. He's been around a while and knows a lot about a lot of things that many here have no clue about. Certainly this is worth something.

The only thing in question is how he goes about it. Apparently, someone has to donate for his free plays. At first it seems a bit disingenuous and dishonest. But actually it's neither because the 'buyer' still has to willingly click the 'donate' link to 'buy' the plays. It is made clear that to get his plays you must pay. Call it donation or buy or gift or tithe. Their is no scam. Maybe some fringe ambiguity but nothing more. IMO

[SportsMushroom]

Lol. Mushroom, the only reason you started this thread is because you, as usual, went into a thread and attacked someone(pimike) calling him shill/liar because he posted a heritage line, you claimed there's no way the line is legit he's a liar blah blah blah, and as usual you were wrong, so you got mad and resorted to this thread.

Some guy on an anonymous Internet forum being a tout has nothing to do with you. Not sure why you care so much, actually I am sure, like I said in the first paragraph,

and I am not sure why you care so much, you already have 4-5 replies in this thread so you obviously do

yes he is a shill, I know for a fact, and if you are not willing to believe me then read the replies in this thread again, guy has been a shill for a ton of books in the past, now that those books are not around anymore he found work at heritage

I dont get you, first you complain about sbr not watching out for the players, but then you dont take offense when shills come onto this forums and try to trick players by promoting horrible books, and heritage has more than one shill on this forum, only bad books need promotion by shills

[zsr]

I'm sure he's a shill, ive seen him shill for multiple books, B.I. Heritage, etc. Your right about that, I think he should be banned for SHILLING, not some stupid tout thing though. I can't imagine anyone is dumb enough to give a tout money for picks.

[The Kraken]

He's shilling for sponsors. Banning him for that would be hypocritical, don't ya think?

[zsr]

He's shilling for sponsors. Banning him for that would be hypocritical, don't ya think?

That was the point of my first post in the thread.

Sbr would obviously never do that, they want the affiliate money. The whole rating system is a joke.

[The Kraken]

SBR is the biggest shill around. You're right, the ratings are a meaningless now. Obvious conflict of interest. Even if accurate, they're perceived as bought. Honestly, I think everything has gone better than John's hoped for. He knew what and why he was getting into this. He's just done it much better than the others for that I guess

[zsr]

SBR is the biggest shill around. You're right, the ratings are a meaningless now. Obvious conflict of interest. Even if accurate, they're perceived as bought. Honestly, I think everything has gone better than John's hoped for. He knew what and why he was getting into this. He's just done it much better than the others for that I guess

Completely agree