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    USA falls to #47 in freedom rankings and dropping like a rock

    Land of the free

    1 Finland -10,00
    3 Estonia -9,00
    - Netherlands -9,00
    5 Austria -8,00
    6 Iceland -7,00
    - Luxembourg -7,00
    8 Switzerland -6,20
    9 Cape Verde -6,00
    10 Canada -5,67
    - Denmark -5,67
    12 Sweden -5,50
    13 New Zealand -5,33
    14 Czech Republic -5,00
    15 Ireland -4,00
    16 Cyprus -3,00
    - Jamaica -3,00
    - Germany -3,00
    19 Costa Rica -2,25
    20 Belgium -2,00
    - Namibia -2,00
    22 Japan -1,00
    - Surinam -1,00
    24 Poland -0,67
    25 Mali 0,00
    - OECS 0,00
    - Slovakia 0,00
    28 United Kingdom 2,00
    29 Niger 2,50
    30 Australia 4,00
    - Lithuania 4,00
    32 Uruguay 4,25
    33 Portugal 5,33
    34 Tanzania 6,00
    35 Papua New Guinea 9,00
    36 Slovenia 9,14
    37 El Salvador 9,30
    38 France 9,50
    39 Spain 9,75
    40 Hungary 10,00
    41 Ghana 11,00
    42 South Africa 12,00
    - Botswana 12,00
    44 South Korea 12,67
    45 Comoros 13,00
    - Taiwan 13,00
    47 United States of America 14,00
    - Argentina 14,00
    - Romania 14,00
    50 Latvia 15,00
    - Trinidad and Tobago 15,00
    52 Haiti 15,67


    http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-inde...2012,1043.html

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    Fukk it im moving to namibia

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    this is what happens when the police have no accountability.

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    and the Government passes laws like NDAA where they can kill and disappear you.

    where police can outright murder you and just get a slap on the wrist.

    homeland security harassing you

    TSA agents strip searching you

    Patriot Act giving government unlimited powers

    I think it should have been dropped much lower

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    President Obama Signs Indefinite Detention Into Law

    President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) today, allowing indefinite detention to be codified into law. As you know, the White House had threatened to veto an earlier version of the NDAA but reversed course shortly before Congress voted on the final bill.


    ^ From ACLU Website ^

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    LMAO, this is based of off protesters getting arrested. How stupid is that ? lived in D.C. for many years, there were protest every week and most of the time it was fine. People have the right to a peaceful assembly, but their are rules that must bet followed. That is how order works. Get over yourself Emily. You are to world knowledge, what the average gambler is to gambling. You swear your a sharp, but your just a broke dikk wannabe. You bash the United States online every chance you get ... your life is so sorry. Get outside, take the tin foil off your head, enjoy life.

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    we won't be that high for long

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsPedagogy View Post

    LMAO, this is based of off protesters getting arrested.

    Not funny when you are the one protesting...


    First they came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for the Catholics,
    and I didn't speak out because I was Protestant.

    Then they came for me
    and there was no one left to speak out for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsPedagogy View Post
    LMAO, this is based of off protesters getting arrested. How stupid is that ? lived in D.C. for many years, there were protest every week and most of the time it was fine. People have the right to a peaceful assembly, but their are rules that must bet followed. That is how order works. Get over yourself Emily. You are to world knowledge, what the average gambler is to gambling. You swear your a sharp, but your just a broke dikk wannabe. You bash the United States online every chance you get ... your life is so sorry. Get outside, take the tin foil off your head, enjoy life.
    Another brain dead zombie oblivious to the laws that have been changed that strip away our basic freedoms. One of this guys that thinks the USA does nothing wrong and anyone that posts anything negative he goes off the deep end with insults.

    Yeah they really kick me out of books and close my accounts because I suck at gambling.

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    people who took the poll ....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post


    Not funny when you are the one protesting...
    Have you seen the video that was filmed right before those kids got maced ?
    The cops came up and asked them to clear the road. They told them they can protest in the grass, but cant block the road. That seems pretty fair to me ... what would you have liked the cops to do ? Allow the kids to keep blocking the road ? How is that fair to the people who are trying to access it ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post

    Another brain dead zombie oblivious to the laws that have been changed that strip away our basic freedoms. One of this guys that thinks the USA does nothing wrong and anyone that posts anything negative he goes off the deep end with insults.

    Yeah they really kick me out of books and close my accounts because I suck at gambling.
    My freedom to what ? Get held indefinitely ? Something that must be approved by the president ? I should feel unfree because if i am suspected of terrorist activity to the point where the president steps in and says "Hold that guy" .. i could be held indefinitely ?

    You are making it sound like cops can just walk up to a group of people and arrest one for no reason and throw away the key. There is a big difference.

    i dont think the U.S. is perfect, i do not think any country is.

    B.T.W. if i had a dollar for every time somebody on this site said they were kicked out of a book or a book lowered their limits to $1.00 .....

    i have only ever seen you post 1 pick .. it didnt turn out to well... still waiting for that "Free Money"

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    I agree that a lot of liberties are missing in the u.s. but most of the top 46 have have laws against "offensive" speech that should bump them WAY down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsPedagogy View Post
    LMAO, this is based of off protesters getting arrested. How stupid is that ? lived in D.C. for many years, there were protest every week and most of the time it was fine. People have the right to a peaceful assembly, but their are rules that must bet followed. That is how order works. Get over yourself Emily. You are to world knowledge, what the average gambler is to gambling. You swear your a sharp, but your just a broke dikk wannabe. You bash the United States online every chance you get ... your life is so sorry. Get outside, take the tin foil off your head, enjoy life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    and the Government passes laws like NDAA where they can kill and disappear you.

    where police can outright murder you and just get a slap on the wrist.

    homeland security harassing you

    TSA agents strip searching you

    Patriot Act giving government unlimited powers

    I think it should have been dropped much lower
    The rankings you list have little/nothing to do with these things. They refer to press freedoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourLengthsClear View Post
    The rankings you list have little/nothing to do with these things. They refer to press freedoms.
    yes this thread is a perfect example why most people should not be allowed to vote.

    they have no reading comprehension skills or an ability to digest information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    Land of the free

    1 Finland -10,00
    3 Estonia -9,00
    - Netherlands -9,00
    5 Austria -8,00
    6 Iceland -7,00
    - Luxembourg -7,00
    8 Switzerland -6,20
    9 Cape Verde -6,00
    10 Canada -5,67
    - Denmark -5,67
    12 Sweden -5,50
    13 New Zealand -5,33
    14 Czech Republic -5,00
    15 Ireland -4,00
    16 Cyprus -3,00
    - Jamaica -3,00
    - Germany -3,00
    19 Costa Rica -2,25
    20 Belgium -2,00
    - Namibia -2,00
    22 Japan -1,00
    - Surinam -1,00
    24 Poland -0,67
    25 Mali 0,00
    - OECS 0,00
    - Slovakia 0,00
    28 United Kingdom 2,00
    29 Niger 2,50
    30 Australia 4,00
    - Lithuania 4,00
    32 Uruguay 4,25
    33 Portugal 5,33
    34 Tanzania 6,00
    35 Papua New Guinea 9,00
    36 Slovenia 9,14
    37 El Salvador 9,30
    38 France 9,50
    39 Spain 9,75
    40 Hungary 10,00
    41 Ghana 11,00
    42 South Africa 12,00
    - Botswana 12,00
    44 South Korea 12,67
    45 Comoros 13,00
    - Taiwan 13,00
    47 United States of America 14,00
    - Argentina 14,00
    - Romania 14,00
    50 Latvia 15,00
    - Trinidad and Tobago 15,00
    52 Haiti 15,67


    http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-inde...2012,1043.html

    You're joking right?

    Besides, you can't even read your own source. Press freedom and freedom are very different.

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    So, should we not trust the news?

    MSNBC and FOX seem legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    So, should we not trust the news?

    MSNBC and FOX seem legit.

    Some of the info on the news is propaganda for the left or the right. I guess you have to decide who you can trust.

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    Very odd, and interesting, comparing the data from Emily's and Mathy's linkage. Take Australia for example: according to Emily's site the government there is trying to pass an internet watchdog akin to the great firewall of China (amongst other things), yet Mathy's linkage has them as the third "most free" country in the world.

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    Emily Haines and forsberg. Uncanny.

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    Emily's mere existence disproves her theory that the government will make the "less-desirables" disappear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mar View Post
    Emily's mere existence disproves her theory that the government will make the "less-desirables" disappear.
    *HIS




    True story

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    I have no complaints living in the US. I'm not being harassed by the police. I get medical care when I need it. I have a good job with steady income. Can do anything I want, when I want, which does't include sitting on my couch playing online poker I'd choose living here over every country ahead of us on this particular chart. I've been to a lot of those countries and they're very nice and I could be happy there but I like living here. I don't need a study to make my mind up for me.

    So keep on posting how bad it is here and I'll keep on living my life and being happy. To eacht their own I guess
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    uhh haiti was 51? really? nah.... this is bs..

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    The whole debate seems rather subjective... Found this adjustable one that has the US 179 out 195 on the important issues...

    http://www.freeexistence.org/freedom...&Reverse=false

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    kinda true. russians and chinese can still play online poker.

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    also you have to admit, those scandanavian countries are doing something right. america should learn from them.

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