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    You're a 22 year old grad investing in the S&P 500 in spring of 1999...............

    Now that you're 35, you have seen this investment go from ...........

    1307.32 to the current levels of 1276.44



    NOW WHAT?

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    Stock Market is more -ev than sportsbetting for most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Now that you're 35, you have seen this investment go from ...........

    1307.32 to the current levels of 1276.44



    NOW WHAT?


    If you get back to even, BAIL................and feel lucky.

    All in all, it could have been a lot worse and you can look back on it as one of life's learning experiences.

    Always keep your guard up for people wanting your hard earned money, be it stockbrokers, touts, mechanics, used car salesman, etc., etc., etc.,

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    FH now put up how much he would have made if he invested $10000 in Intel and reinvested ever penny of dividend money ?

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    yo fish ..is that just a initial investment with no weekly/monthly contribution or just a one time investment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Now what???

    Its in and out only

    Long term forget it
    JJgold is plus even in the stock market.This is long term boys i'm plus even.

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    Now what???

    Its in and out only

    Long term forget it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Now what???

    Its in and out only

    Long term forget it
    JJgold is plus even in the stock market.This is long term boys i'm plus even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Now what???

    Its in and out only

    Long term forget it
    short term way to go quick money

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemart5 View Post
    FH now put up how much he would have made if he invested $10000 in Intel and reinvested ever penny of dividend money ?
    Lemart is this you?



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    At least the dollar's worth more now than in '99.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kmarinouofm View Post
    Lemart is this you?
    if i had to guess, this would be little lemmy


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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    At least the dollar's worth more now than in '99.


    If one would have bought 100 cans of CHEF-BOY-R-DEE in the spring of 1999, they would be better off than investing in the S&P

    The same will hold true over the next 10-14 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post


    If one would have bought 100 cans of CHEF-BOY-R-DEE in the spring of 1999, they would be better off than investing in the S&P

    The same will hold true over the next 10-14 years.
    beefaroni or ravioli?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmarinouofm View Post
    beefaroni or ravioli?

    Both, along with a host of others...................

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    a lost decade +

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    Obviously you have no clue how compound interest works on a continuous investment. Secondly are you assuming a 1 time investment or a continuous investment. On a last note losing less than 1% of your bankroll( portfolio), over 13 years is 1000000000% better than what the avg sports bettor will lose.

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    fishhead i think you are ignoring dividends which on the s&p 500 would add about 20% over the past 13 years?

    then again if someone was managing the money or it was in a mutual fund, the fees over the past 13 years would probably eat up that 20%...

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    Fish, your arguments have two pitfalls. First, you conveniently pick the highest point in recent history, excluding the big run up during the 90's. Second, you forgot to mention 2% dividend, and that should count at least +20% not showing in the index. But nobody can predict how market performs in the next 10 years. My guess the chance going up is much bigger than down. Don't forget inflation, that is going to be reflected in the price.
    Last edited by wrongturn; 01-04-12 at 04:28 PM.

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    On a side note if you expect to throw 1 lump sum into a single index fund and make anything more than 3% a year you were smoking crack so im not sure what your angle was here. Your not going to get rich investing in the S & P even in a booming economy.

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    Look at all those cups!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Now what???

    Its in and out only

    Long term forget it
    Are you talking about the stock market or your relationships with women coach?

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    Nobody should have a cent in the U.S. STOCK MARKET..........

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    Go back to 2006 and cash it out.

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    Really? We're doing this thread again?

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    gotta think LONG LONG LONG term as far as the stock market goes for the average person. Buy and hold for 40-50 years. Leave the more risky stuff to more learned folk

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    What about if you invested in 2008???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    If one would have bought 100 cans of CHEF-BOY-R-DEE in the spring of 1999, they would be better off than investing in the S&P

    The same will hold true over the next 10-14 years.
    That is an absurd statement about the future. You dont put out that the 1990s was the second best decade ever for S&P returns and people entered an overvalued market. Dow 36,000 may seem like a joke now but there is a reason that Paul Krugman labeled the last decade "The Big Zero". Zero stock gain, Zero job gain, Zero gains for homeowners, but whats amazing about the american stock market over the times of records is that through 18 decades, 16 of them were profitable, with returns averaging 10% per year during those 156 years.

    Even when you include the two losing decades, the average annual return is still 8.82%. and people still expect that 7-8 percent range and it seems to be the consensus for 2012.

    Somebody should bump all those stupid doomsday threads about the stock market in here. Its ridiculous how weak minded people are about the stock market and scared people get. So many gamblers are such weak minded people when it comes to the future, doomsday stock threads seems to start every week

    There is a great study of people who hypothetically invested after bear markets and after bull markets, http://moneyland.time.com/2011/12/02...our-portfolio/,

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    SBRJohn still likes his $10 BAC calls I'm sure....

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    When the market goes down, you buy, when it goes up you sell. And I'm up plenty doing this.

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    LOL I started gambling a year before that. But I cashed out in 08. I out performed everything but guys who scammed people with Internet properties. Anyone who has a clue could have gotten probably 15-20 times their money out just betting generic numbers with little to no shopping. I got little over 30 times from betting alone, another nice windfall from a couple houses I bought (with gambling winnings) and then sold before the collapse. That was just more luck and timing rather than knowledge. I moved out of Vegas in 06 and sold that one right before it shit the bed. Sold my NB house right before I got married in 08, not at the peak but quite a bit more than I paid for it.

    Number one rule anyone should follow is invest in yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    If you get back to even, BAIL................and feel lucky.

    All in all, it could have been a lot worse and you can look back on it as one of life's learning experiences.

    Always keep your guard up for people wanting your hard earned money, be it stockbrokers, touts, mechanics, used car salesman, etc., etc., etc.,
    $1307.32 is not even close to even.... there has been a lot of inflation since 1999.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrongturn View Post
    Fish, your arguments have two pitfalls. First, you conveniently pick the highest point in recent history, excluding the big run up during the 90's. Second, you forgot to mention 2% dividend, and that should count at least +20% not showing in the index. But nobody can predict how market performs in the next 10 years. My guess the chance going up is much bigger than down. Don't forget inflation, that is going to be reflected in the price.

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