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    Automoto
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    What's better? Tailing hot players or going against losers?

    I noticed that there are many posts with players that seem to be very successful and they have their followers but is it better to tail them of find the worst players and go against them?

    Your thoughts?


    Automoto


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    It's all about short-term gain. In the long run, it'll all end up close to the same. I'd rather tail someone successful than fade someone who is struggling though.

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    i keep watching the lang fade over on the service players board....its fuckin gold....but i know the minute i start tailing dime for dime he will go on one of those months where he actually profits like 300 dimes

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    Who is Lang?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Automoto View Post
    Who is Lang?
    go over to the service plays board...ask around...theyll explain...too much for me to type right now...fading him is a gold mine though...im just too chicken shit cause once in awhile hell have a good month and if i jump and he gets hot ill be pissed

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    LOL... I just found him.... Brandon Lang 7-19-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Automoto View Post
    LOL... I just found him.... Brandon Lang 7-19-1
    yes. if you do not trust your own picks there is nothing on this forum more profitable than fading lang.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    yes. if you do not trust your own picks there is nothing on this forum more profitable than fading lang.............
    pauly...tell me why im such a pussy..i know fading this guy is like printing money...a key to my financial success/happiness.....yet i cant fuckin hop on the train

    im afraid ill jump on at the wrong time....lang ll hit for like 300 dimes of a profit and ill never forgive myself and will have been owned by that fuckin clown

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    It looks like he is streaky... so I will fade him while he is losing.

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    auto...the thing is...yer just looking at his numbers from this year.....go back and look at last years numbers....or the year before....the guy has winning months.....but overall if you stay in the race you are making tons of fuckin money...im just scared to hop in and get buried alive

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobby heenan View Post
    pauly...tell me why im such a pussy..i know fading this guy is like printing money...a key to my financial success/happiness.....yet i cant fuckin hop on the train im afraid ill jump on at the wrong time....lang ll hit for like 300 dimes of a profit and ill never forgive myself and will have been owned by that fuckin clown
    I don't fade him but I make sure he is not on any of my plays before I place them and if he by chance is on the other side I double up on them...........

    If you do fade him though,you have to do it for the long haul and you will be successful as long as you do not add your own or other plays.....

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    ya i think youd need a nice 10k bankroll to start...in case he has a hot month or two off the bat.....10 bucks a dime and you should be golden

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    Logic would suggest that it is every bit as 'hard' to hit at 45% as it is to hit at 55% and just as it is nigh on impossible to hit at 60% (long term) it is equally improbable to flounder at 40%. However there is plenty of evidence that 'the public' as a whole hits at slightly below 50% meaning that fading the ultimate hamburger should produce slightly better results than tailing a superstar.

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    Tailing Pinnacle

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    Lang Mighty Quinn Brock Landers etc

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    try to make my own plays unless I read a write up and points info that I hadnt considered

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    Hi All!

    Great info! I appreciate them all! I will definitely look at their picks after I make mine to be sure I am not thinking like them on a particular game.

    You guys all rock!!

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    Both strategies are obviously garbage. Put more time into gathering a few outs and shopping the best prices on what ever side it is you want and your results will instantly get better.

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    Tailing/Fading is for guys who are already established losers IMO. They can't pick their own winners, so the next logical step is to do zero work, and just tail/do the opposite of someone whose doing worse than them.

    Problem is, people never know when to jump on the tail/fade train.

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    Finding your own +ev plays is the best way to make money

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul2008 View Post
    Tailing Pinnacle

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    i would recommend both. but dont bet heavy if u r doing either of these strategies.

    you gotta trust yourself if you are going to go big. B/c afterall its "your money" GL

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    i will tell you what i do is if i like a game already and then I see Tracer is on it I go fukking huge.

    only use other peoples opinions to give you reassurance for your own leans

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    fade my pucks plays and tail jjgold's picks when he posts a thread

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    If you want to make good $ wait for Lang, Brock Landers, and Henryhill all to be on the same play.
    It works 60% of the time, everytime.

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    Lang is the best capper alive. I doubt it is possible to be so consistently wrong and not have a job in government.

    You're just looking at his picks wrong.

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    Everyday, I look at who lang is on, and the only way I am not on the otherside, is if I can't rationally think of the otherside hitting.

    i.e. going against Wichita State the other day.

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