1. 01-17-12 12:44 AM #1
    Jonah
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    Tebow Should Have Guarded Gronkowski

    Hopefully next year...You know he can. Tebow didn't play well on Saturday, but that D played much worse. Tebow would have helped.
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  2. 01-17-12 12:48 AM #2
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    This wouldn't work...Tebow knows nothing about passing...doesn't know when, why, how, if, or anything else about a pass including guarding against one...
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  3. 01-17-12 12:55 AM #3
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    tebow can play defense for all 11 guys
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  4. 01-17-12 12:56 AM #4
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    Almost impossible to single cover Gronkowski. Think of it like an entry pass in basketball. If keep him in front, you are giving up the catch and if you jump the route, you're eventually going to get beat over the top. DB has to play perfect 3/4 coverage, and even then you leave a window to fit the pass in.

    Give it a few years. We're going to start seeing 6'4" DB's to cover the new wave of monster sized receivers and TE's. I don't get the hype over the honey badger at all. He's going to get squashed like a bug in the NFL.
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  5. 01-17-12 12:57 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie Mccracken View Post

    I don't get the hype over the honey badger at all. He's going to get squashed like a bug in the NFL.

    NFL??? Alabama made him look bad... Real bad!
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  6. 01-17-12 01:00 AM #6
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    It's like at the end of games in the NBA...All of a sudden Lebron is on Rose, Jordan on whomever, Kobe on Dirk. You put your clutch guys wherever and they will deliver. Don't overthink it.
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  7. 01-17-12 01:03 AM #7
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    Only way to guard these new-age tight ends is to crack their ribs on those high passes. League made rules against that, though.
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  8. 01-17-12 01:04 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie Mccracken View Post
    Almost impossible to single cover Gronkowski. Think of it like an entry pass in basketball. If keep him in front, you are giving up the catch and if you jump the route, you're eventually going to get beat over the top. DB has to play perfect 3/4 coverage, and even then you leave a window to fit the pass in.

    Give it a few years. We're going to start seeing 6'4" DB's to cover the new wave of monster sized receivers and TE's. I don't get the hype over the honey badger at all. He's going to get squashed like a bug in the NFL.
    First of all, I can single cover Gronk...Couldn't tackle the guy, but am pretty confident I could blanket him. I would be a liability in the run game tho, so coach might have to sit me.

    We will see some 6'4 Db's, not a ton of them. The specific skill set required to play Corner does not come in the the above 6 foot model very often.

    You bring up a good point tho. I wonder if Seattle would match up well v the Pats. Maybe.
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  9. 01-17-12 01:09 AM #9
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    Timmy could probably start in the NFL on defense for at least one team if he worked at it...

    No doubt he is an overall athletic offensive NFL player who could start for several teams. QB, TE, HB, Fullback, Slot receiver. He is the Jim Kiick of 21st century
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  10. 01-17-12 01:16 AM #10
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    I do too Sam...

    Isn't this what this Circus needs?

    If he has to play with those backs and receivers again, and that D plays like that - some shark will need to be jumped.
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  11. 01-17-12 01:20 AM #11
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    heard that back when randy moss came into the league and gates, corners have actually gotten shorter somehow
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  12. 01-17-12 01:31 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    heard that back when randy moss came into the league and gates, corners have actually gotten shorter somehow
    It takes ridiculous hips to play corner, especially since you can't lay a finger on the receivers (unless you are the Texans)

    Ever wonder why it looks like these corners are terrible at playing the ball, especially in college. Truth is a lot of these guys are terrible athletes in a lot of other respects. Can't catch, hardly any ball awareness. Again, the low center of gravity and hip thing is real rare. Add the ability to come up and play the run on top of that - even more rare.
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  13. 01-17-12 01:46 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    heard that back when randy moss came into the league and gates, corners have actually gotten shorter somehow

    Moss was ahead of his time and one of a kind at the time. No one wanted to change their D for 1 guy, so he caught about a whillion TD's despite not really even being into football. Couple aspects of the game have changed over the past few years.

    1) Recievers/TE's are bigger and stronger, on average. Not just 1-2 guys anymore. Now it's Gates, Graham, Gronkowski, Hernandez, Davis, Megatron, Dez Bryant, Andre Johnson, Rice, Marshal, Nicks, Jackson, and so on. Blackmon looks like a beast, too. This trend is going to continue.

    2) Passing games have evolved. Top QB's have been increasingly successful throwing into ridiculous amounts of coverage because of the physical mismatches. How many times did Stafford toss it up for grabs in megatron's direction? This is becoming the norm, not the exception. You can have 2 or 3 super speedy defenders running stride for stride, but unable to make a play on the ball or disrupt the passing lane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie Mccracken View Post
    Moss was ahead of his time and one of a kind at the time. No one wanted to change their D for 1 guy, so he caught about a whillion TD's despite not really even being into football. Couple aspects of the game have changed over the past few years.

    1) Recievers/TE's are bigger and stronger, on average. Not just 1-2 guys anymore. Now it's Gates, Graham, Gronkowski, Hernandez, Davis, Megatron, Dez Bryant, Andre Johnson, Rice, Marshal, Nicks, Jackson, and so on. Blackmon looks like a beast, too. This trend is going to continue.

    2) Passing games have evolved. Top QB's have been increasingly successful throwing into ridiculous amounts of coverage because of the physical mismatches. How many times did Stafford toss it up for grabs in megatron's direction? This is becoming the norm, not the exception. You can have 2 or 3 super speedy defenders running stride for stride, but unable to make a play on the ball or disrupt the passing lane.

    Could a Lester Hayes start today?
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  15. 01-17-12 02:16 AM #15
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    uh no team now could beat any team of 20 years ago except the worst teams in the league then
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  16. 01-17-12 07:02 AM #16
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    Since when Have TE's been "small"?
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