[Edward-RAS]

I am rarely wrong, one of most powerful guys offshore even to this day

Ok so your saying I can quit my fukkin job digging holes for fukkin fences busted my fukkin balls for $9 per hr and installing security cameras where as I get made fun of because of my bald head and peculiar behaviors in the house?

I can buy this package and just bet your plays and wear leather pants and gold chains with a broad hanging all over me??

Eddie all I ever wanted was to be a sugar daddy in Vegas

So this will happen??

No, it isn't that easy. This service is targeted towards sophisticated/professional bettors with sufficient bankrolls to justify the cost of the service. It requires necessary bankroll, money management skills, discipline, time, and resources (outs) to achieve optimal results.

[baskets]

so you make more money selling your product than betting your product?

[Bluehorseshoe]

I think it goes without saying that RAS may be the only tout that has sportsbooks purchasing his plays...

wantitall4moi, what is your background with sportsbetting? you made a comment that you used to move pinny prices .05 to .08 cents in bases there...personally, i believe that is completely false, but if you gave us a little background, we might understand...were you part of a group or something? just curious...i like to know the past experience of some guys who express as many opinions as you do...

His and Dr. Bob's. One of the PPH sites give their clients access to the info.

[dredmahawkus]

I wouldnt doubt if there was some kind of agenda like middling.....if someone had something that worked....they would bet on it themselves and not tell anyone. the second you give away the secret then its not profitable for you. selling picks is profitable to them......betting picks is not.....now middling picks when they know it will move the line is very very very profitable!

[Bluehorseshoe]

No, it isn't that easy. This service is targeted towards sophisticated/professional bettors with sufficient bankrolls to justify the cost of the service. It requires necessary bankroll, money management skills, discipline, time, and resources (outs) to achieve optimal results.

You also have to be next to a computer (at certain times of the day) 7 days a week.

[Edward-RAS]

His and Dr. Bob's. One of the PPH sites give their clients access to the info.

Access to what info?

[Edward-RAS]

I wouldnt doubt if there was some kind of agenda like middling.....if someone had something that worked....they would bet on it themselves and not tell anyone. the second you give away the secret then its not profitable for you. selling picks is profitable to them......betting picks is not.....now middling picks when they know it will move the line is very very very profitable!

Why would betting picks not be profitable?

[Bluehorseshoe]

Access to what info?

Your plays?

[Edward-RAS]

Your plays?

Not sure I get what your saying. A PPH subscribes and gives other sportsbooks the info? Wouldn't it be hard to do so timely enough for them to benefit?

[jjgold]

No, it isn't that easy. This service is targeted towards sophisticated/professional bettors with sufficient bankrolls to justify the cost of the service. It requires necessary bankroll, money management skills, discipline, time, and resources (outs) to achieve optimal results.

I need to interview you for SBR

[Bluehorseshoe]

Not sure I get what your saying. A PPH subscribes and gives other sportsbooks the info? Wouldn't it be hard to do so timely enough for them to benefit?

What do you mean? You know 5 Dimes moves their lines off of it. Why wouldn't a PPH shop that's just a mirror of a sportsbook do the same?

The PPH shop lets you log into your account and see the released plays after the fact. I guess so their clients could see if his players are playing those plays. It's some kind of courtesy they throw out there.

[minet123]

Ed...Give up
I don't pay for your subscription
I don't pay for anyone's picks
But your record speak for itself
and you are 100% clear on the web site on how your subscription works
I have been told by others who sell subscriptions that you "oversell"
but not counting beaver ball
08-09 +62.95
09-10 +71.65
10-11 10.70
not to shabby
while you don't spell it out it's kind of clear that you can have no life to play the service
and must have instant access to the top spots-CRIS,Grande,Pinnacle
arguing with a JJ...they guy start a thread about sleeping with his aunt and once made a video of himself painted black
Is pointless
Do not get in the middle of his mentors(Kenny RIP/Russ) #1 rule
Drama Sells

[baskets]

08-09 +62.95
09-10 +71.65
10-11 10.70

that don't mean shit. post the actual numbers.


180-120, +48.00

that's 60% at -110 over 300 picks.


but if you if you just go '2010, +50 units' ... come on, that don't mean shit

[Edward-RAS]

while you don't spell it out it's kind of clear that you can have no life to play the service and must have instant access to the top spots-CRIS,Grande,Pinnacle

Other than Saturday's from 9-3pm PST, you can have a life. We have set release times that are pretty routine on all the other days.

I think we spell everything out pretty clearly.

[Bluehorseshoe]

Other than Saturday's from 9-3pm PST, you can have a life. We have set release times that are pretty routine on all the other days.

I think we spell everything out pretty clearly.

How can you say that? You have to be near a computer when the plays come out twice a day, (because of the window to get the plays in) 7 days a week. Most people have jobs. How do you expect them to drop what they're doing at their job and put the plays in twice a day. It's not realistic.

You're service is geared to a certain type of player and there's nothing wrong with it. It's just not geared to the majority.

[Edward-RAS]

How can you say that? You have to be near a computer when the plays come out twice a day, (because of the window to get the plays in) 7 days a week. Most people have jobs. How do you expect them to drop what they're doing at their job and put the plays in twice a day. It's not realistic.

You're service is geared to a certain type of player and there's nothing wrong with it. It's just not geared to the majority.

I absolutely agree, but having to be near the computer for predetermined release windows (that also come with a 5 minute e-mail/warning text) a few times a day is a lot different that not being able to have a life.

[Bluehorseshoe]

I absolutely agree, but having to be near the computer for predetermined release windows (that also come with a 5 minute e-mail/warning text) a few times a day is a lot different that not being able to have a life.

No it isn't.

[Edward-RAS]

No it isn't.

With the advanced warnings and predetermined release windows, you don't have to be glued to your computer all day, like some like to make it out to be. The only day that can be difficult is Saturday morning/early afternoon.

[d2bets]

Do you guys release your plays by e-mail, text, phone, something else?

[Edward-RAS]

Do you guys release your plays by e-mail, text, phone, something else?

We have a countdown timer release page. When the timer hits zero, you hit refresh and the pick is displayed for everyone at the same time. We also send them out via e-mail and text, but those tend to not be as timely or reliable, and may put you at a disadvantage competing for best numbers.

We also send a warning out via e-mail/text 5 minutes before the start of every release so everyone gets some time to be prepared.

[sweep]

How's Edward been doing in the tourny this year

Anyone subscribe?

[LT Profits]

Well, he is an excellent 61-38 for all of March.

2016-2017 COLLEGE BASKETBALL PICK RESULTS

March 2017 Picks: 61-38 | Units: +20.05 | Win Rate: 61.62% | CLV: +2.23
Date	Matchup	Rating	Score	Result	Close	CLV
03/24/17	UCLA/Kentucky Under 168.5	1.00	UK 86-75 (161)	Win	167.5	+1.0
03/22/17	Idaho/Texas State Under 69.5 2H	1.00	TXST 40-32 (72)	Loss
03/20/17	UMKC/Wyoming Over 167.5	1.00	WYO 72-61 (133)	Loss	171.5	+4.0
03/20/17	Tennessee Martin/Campbell Under 77 2H	1.00	UTM 37-36 (73)	Win
03/20/17	Weber State/Texas A&M-Corpus Christi Over 145	1.00	AMCC 82-73 (155)	Win	150.5	+5.5
03/19/17	Michigan State/Kansas Under 80.5 2H	1.00	KU 50-35 (85)	Loss
03/19/17	Wichita State/Kentucky Under 152	1.00	UK 65-62 (127)	Win	149.5	+2.5
03/19/17	Michigan vs. Louisville -3	1.00	MICH 73-69	Loss	-3.0	0.0
03/18/17	Virginia vs. Florida -1	1.00	FLA 65-39	Win	-1.5	+0.5
03/17/17	Marquette/South Carolina Under 147	1.00	SC 93-73 (166)	Loss	143.5	+3.5
03/17/17	Texas Southern vs. North Carolina -25	1.00	UNC 103-64	Win	-26.5	+1.5
03/17/17	Jacksonville State/Louisville Under 61 1H	1.00	LOU 38-31 (69)	Loss
03/16/17	Weber State/CS Fullerton Over 78 2H	1.00	WEB 45-43 (88)	Win
03/16/17	Weber State vs. CS Fullerton -1.5	1.00	WEB 80-76	Loss	-2.5	+1.0
03/16/17	VCU/Saint Mary's Over 71.5 2H	1.00	VCU 46-39 (85)	Win
03/16/17	Stony Brook vs. Illinois-Chicago -1.5	1.50	UIC 71-69	Win	-2.5	+1.0
03/16/17	UNC Asheville -4 vs. Tennessee Martin	1.50	UTM 89-75	Loss	-5.0	+1.0
03/16/17	VCU/Saint Mary's Over 127	1.00	SMC 85-77 (162)	Win	128.5	+1.5
03/16/17	Furman -5 vs. South Carolina State	1.00	FUR 79-57	Win	-6.5	+1.5
03/16/17	East Tennessee State/Florida Over 145	1.00	FLA 80-65 (145)	Push	148.5	+3.5
03/16/17	South Dakota State/Gonzaga Over 153	1.00	GONZ 66-46 (112)	Loss	157.5	+4.5
03/16/17	North Carolina Wilmington/Virginia Over 131.5	1.00	UVA 76-71 (147)	Win	133	+2.5
03/16/17	North Carolina Wilmington +8.5 vs. Virginia	1.00	UVA 76-71	Win	+8.0	+0.5
03/15/17	Texas-Arlington/BYU Under 168.5	1.00	UTA 105-89 (194)	Loss	166.5	+2.0
03/15/17	USC -1.5 vs. Providence	1.00	USC 75-71	Win	-2.5	+1.0
03/15/17	Akron/Houston U Under 146	1.00	AKR 78-75 (153)	Loss	143.5	+2.5
03/15/17	UNC Greensboro/Syracuse Under 148.5	1.00	SYR 80-77 (157)	Loss	146	+2.5
03/15/17	Fairfield/MD Baltimore Co Under 157	1.00	UMBC 88-83 (171)	Loss	152.5	+4.5
03/15/17	Ball State/IPFW Over 165.5	1.00	IPFW 88-80 (168)	Win	171	+5.5
03/15/17	NC Central -3 (-115) vs. UC Davis	1.00	UCD 67-63	Loss	-3.5	+0.5
03/14/17	Kansas State/Wake Forest Under 151.5	1.00	KSU 95-88 (183)	Loss	147	+4.5
03/14/17	Indiana/Georgia Tech Under 146	1.00	GT 75-63 (138)	Win	143	+3.0
03/11/17	Weber State +2 vs. North Dakota	1.00	UND 93-89*	Loss	+1.5	+0.5
03/11/17	Alcorn State vs. Texas Southern -2 2H	1.00	Alcorn State 29-27	Loss
03/11/17	Richmond vs. VCU -2.5 2H	1.00	VCU 51-46*	Win
03/11/17	Troy vs. Georgia State +2 2H	1.00	TROY 46-26	Loss
03/11/17	Albany NY/Vermont Under 58.5 1H	1.00	27-27 (54)	Win
03/10/17	CS Fullerton +3 vs. UC Davis	1.00	UCD 66-64*	Win	+2.0	+1.0
03/10/17	California/Oregon Over 70.5 2H	1.00	ORE 37-32 (69)	Loss
03/10/17	Northwestern/Maryland Under 75 2H	1.00	NW 38-28 (66)	Win
03/10/17	Kansas State +6 vs. West Virginia	1.00	WVU 51-50	Win	+6.0	0.0
03/10/17	California/Oregon Over 58 1H	1.00	ORE 36-33 (69)	Win
03/10/17	Tulsa/Cincinnati Over 69.5 2H	1.00	CIN 40-36 (76)	Win
03/10/17	Tulsa/Cincinnati Over 58.5 1H	1.00	CIN 40-25 (65)	Win
03/10/17	Ball State/Akron Under 149	1.00	AKR 74-70 (144)	Win	145.5	+3.5
03/10/17	Davidson/Dayton Under 76.5 2H	1.00	DAY 42-36 (78)	Loss
03/09/17	Kansas State +5 vs. Baylor	1.00	KSU 70-64	Win	+4.5	+0.5
03/09/17	Virginia/Notre Dame Over 55.5 1H	1.00	ND 32-26 (58)	Win
03/09/17	Kent State vs. Buffalo U -2	1.00	KENT 68-65	Loss	-3.5	+1.5
03/09/17	Chicago State vs. New Mexico State -10.5 2H	1.00	NMSU 39-28	Win
03/09/17	Chicago State/New Mexico State Under 74.5 2H	1.00	NMSU 39-28 (67)	Win
03/09/17	Toledo/Ohio Under 78.5 2H	1.00	OHIO 36-29 (65)	Win
03/09/17	Toledo vs. Ohio -3.5 2H	1.50	OHIO 36-29	Win
03/09/17	Montana -3.5 (-115) vs. Idaho 2H	1.00	MONT 43-40	Loss
03/09/17	Howard vs. Morgan State -2	1.00	HOW 68-65	Loss	-4.0	+2.0
03/09/17	Arizona State/Oregon Under 80.5 2H	1.00	ORE 46-26 (72)	Win
03/09/17	Western Michigan -2 vs. Ball State 2H	1.00	WMU 30-28	Push
03/09/17	Cal Poly/UC Davis Under 138.5	1.00	UCD 66-55 (121)	Win	133.5	+5.0
03/09/17	Massachusetts/St. Bonaventure Under 145	1.00	SBON 73-60 (133)	Win	143	+3.0
03/08/17	Washington/USC Under 82 2H	1.00	USC 41-34 (75)	Win
03/08/17	Pittsburgh/Virginia Over 63 2H	1.00	UVA 41-40 (81)	Win
03/08/17	Pittsburgh/Virginia Over 53.5 1H	1.00	UVA 34-23 (57)	Win
03/08/17	Arkansas Little Rock/UL - Lafayette Under 142	1.00	ULL 78-71 (149)	Loss	137.5	+4.5
03/08/17	St. Joseph's/Massachusetts Under 141	1.00	MASS 70-63 (133)	Win	138.5	+2.5
03/08/17	St. Joseph's vs. Massachusetts -3	1.00	MASS 70-63	Win	-4.0	+1.0
03/08/17	Oregon State/California Over 56 1H	1.00	CAL 32-29 (61)	Win
03/08/17	Penn State/Nebraska Over 139	1.00	PSU 76-67* (143)	Win	142	+3.0
03/08/17	Stanford/Arizona State Over 81.5 2H	1.00	ASU 48-46* (94)	Win
03/07/17	South Dakota State -1.5 vs. Nebraska Omaha	1.00	SDSU 79-77	Win	-3.0	+1.5
03/07/17	Idaho State vs. Sacramento State -4.5	1.00	SAC 91-76	Win	-4.5	0.0
03/07/17	Idaho State/Sacramento State Under 143	1.00	SAC 91-76 (167)	Loss	138	+5.0
03/06/17	Siena/Iona Under 81.5 2H	1.00	IONA 52-49* (101)	Loss
03/06/17	IUPUI vs. Nebraska Omaha +1	1.00	UNOM 90-62	Win	+2.0	-1.0
03/06/17	South Dakota State +2.5 vs. South Dakota	1.00	SDSU 74-71	Win	+1.5	+1.0
03/06/17	Coll of Charleston vs. North Carolina Wilmington -1.5	1.00	UNCW 78-69	Win	-2.5	+1.0
03/05/17	Iona/St. Peter's Under 68.5 2H	1.00	IONA 49-37 (86)	Loss
03/05/17	Denver vs. South Dakota State -2.5	1.50	SDSU 83-73	Win	-4.0	+1.5
03/05/17	Purdue/Northwestern Under 139	1.00	PUR 69-65 (134)	Win	137	+2.0
03/04/17	IUPUI/North Dakota State Under 148	1.00	IUPU 76-57 (133)	Win	145.5	+2.5
03/04/17	Jacksonville State/Tennessee Martin Under 71 2H	1.00	UTM 32-30 (62)	Win
03/04/17	Colorado State/Nevada Under 145.5	1.00	NEV 85-72 (157)	Loss	141.5	+4.0
03/04/17	San Francisco PK vs. Santa Clara 2H	1.00	SCU 43-34	Loss
03/04/17	Arkansas Little Rock/Troy Under 139.5	1.00	TROY 57-54 (111)	Win	135	+4.5
03/04/17	Sacramento State/Northern Colorado Under 140	1.00	UNCO 70-67 (137)	Win	139	+1.0
03/04/17	Massachusetts/St. Bonaventure Under 152.5	1.00	SBON 60-56 (116)	Win	148.5	+2.0
03/04/17	Elon/William & Mary Under 156	1.00	W&M 71-66 (137)	Win	151.5	+4.5
03/04/17	Delaware/North Carolina Wilmington Over 145.5	1.00	UNCW 91-83 (174)	Win	150.5	+5.0
03/03/17	Portland vs. San Diego -3.5	1.00	PORT 60-55	Loss	-5.0	+1.5
03/03/17	Drexel vs. James Madison -3	1.00	JMU 80-70	Win	-3.5	+0.5
03/03/17	Toledo/Eastern Michigan Under 151.5	1.00	TOL 60-56 (116)	Win	148	+3.5
03/03/17	Delaware/Hofstra Under 66.5 1H	1.00	HOF 47-39 (86)	Loss
03/02/17	CS Northridge/Cal Poly Under 80.5 2H	1.00	CP 46-42 (88)	Loss
03/02/17	Murray State vs. Morehead State -2	1.00	MURR 75-69	Loss	-3.0	+1.0
03/02/17	Sacramento State/North Dakota Under 77 2H	1.00	SAC 33-30 (63)	Win
03/02/17	Radford vs. Liberty -3.5 (-115) 2H	1.00	Liberty 31-27	Win
03/01/17	La Salle -6 vs. Saint Louis	1.00	SLU 70-55	Loss	-7.5	+1.5
03/01/17	Boston College/Notre Dame Over 151	1.00	ND 82-66 (148)	Loss	154.5	+3.5
03/01/17	VCU/Dayton Under 140.5	1.00	DAY 79-72 (151)	Loss	138	+2.5
03/01/17	Tennessee State -4.5 vs. SE Missouri State	1.00	SEMO 78-75*	Loss	-5.0	+0.5
03/01/17	Tennessee State/SE Missouri State Under 138.5	1.00	SEMO 78-75* (153)	Loss	136	+2.5
03/01/17	Richmond/Massachusetts Under 150.5	1.00	RICH 75-64 (139)	Win	148.5	+2.0

[jjgold]

You never see the whole picture everybody has a solid month here and there


If you tail you'll be a lifetime loser

They do not even bet

[LT Profits]

You never see the whole picture everybody has a solid month here and there


If you tail you'll be a lifetime loser

They do not even bet

RAS is one of the few long-term winners, the issue with him is that you may have a tough time getting down on his lines because he moves them so much.

[newguy]

I remember years ago this guy was incredible. If you had proper money management you could do well under him. For a while people were tracking his record against the closing lines (i.e. The line you could for sure have gotten after it moved) and he was right around break even or so. That still case? LT or anyone track that??