View Poll Results: Is Slow Pay The Norm In The Offshore World Today?

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  • There is a growing slow pay trend in the offshore world...

    9 64.29%
  • I receive my money as fast as my deposit gets credited

    5 35.71%
  1. #1
    Cloak & Dagger
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    The Growing Offshore Trend In 2009......Slow Pay

    by the time you get YOUR funds...this is what you'll look like









    but always remember!!...when you deposit...IT GETS CREDITED FASTER THAN A PARIS HILTON SEXTAPE HITS THE INTERNET




    p.s. I look for a clown named 'cool ranch' to come in here and shill for the books stealing american money...dont mind him...its raining and his hut is starting to turn into a ball of mud

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    If Frank gets his bill through legalizing internet gambling, this trend will change fast
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by fearless View Post
    If Frank gets his bill through legalizing internet gambling, this trend will change fast
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    ya it will be like the old days...

    where their attitude is....WE NEED THEM

    right now their thinking is...THEY NEED US

    I stay away until the day its legalized

    Nevada ONLY for me until that day..if that day ever comes...BIG if

    C&D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloak & Dagger View Post
    ya it will be like the old days...

    where their attitude is....WE NEED THEM

    right now their thinking is...THEY NEED US

    I stay away until the day its legalized

    Nevada ONLY for me until that day..if that day ever comes...BIG if

    C&D
    There's no reason not to have faith with the democrats having nearly complete control of the government right now. The only reason the law banning internet betting was passed was because republicans had complete control of the government and just one republican got the ban through by attaching to another law. With the opposite situation there's no reason to believe Frank won't be successful, imho.

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    Checks received to the USA since the Super Bowl in less than 2 days:

    Greek (2)
    BetJM (2)
    5Dimes
    Bookmaker (3)
    DSI (3)
    Matchbook (3)


    I'd say the industry is paying as fast right now as it ever has in the post UIGEA environment.

    But, hey C&D don't let the facts get in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    Checks received to the USA since the Super Bowl in less than 2 days:

    Greek (2)
    BetJM (2)
    5Dimes
    Bookmaker (3)
    DSI (3)
    Matchbook (3)


    I'd say the industry is paying as fast right now as it ever has in the post UIGEA environment.

    But, hey C&D don't let the facts get in the way.

    Less than 2 days Not many places in the world you can mail anything and someone recieve it in 2 days. So you are saying you put in a request , it was processed and mailed and you recieved it in less than 2 days

    In my opinion less than 2 days would be either one day or the same day , so I call your bluff here Durito

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokernut9999 View Post
    Less than 2 days Not many places in the world you can mail anything and someone recieve it in 2 days. So you are saying you put in a request , it was processed and mailed and you recieved it in less than 2 days

    In my opinion less than 2 days would be either one day or the same day , so I call your bluff here Durito

    Put in a request for a fedex check monday morning at Greek and it will be delivered on tuesday. Check the Feb payouts thread in the S&I section for others reporting the same.

    edit: and I meant to write 2 days or less. So request monday, have by wednesday, as that's how long Cris group checks are taking.

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    I have noticed a definite trend of increasing slow-pay in recent times.

    A used-to-be reliable book like Bet Atlas has been taking 2 months to make payouts for over a year now. Bet Las Palmas has recently gone from quick and efficient to a-couple-months-or-whenever. A+ book WSEX has had many episodes of slow-pays and bounced cheques in the last year.

    I had some Matchbook and Bookmaker payouts take over a week. Not a disaster - just not something that used to happen.

    I think even the SBR guys would admit they are rating books on a curve, and the curve has slid. A couple years ago, there is no way a book retains an A+ rating while doing some of the stuff WSEX has done.

    But a lower level of service has become expected, part of the landscape.

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    Offshore slow pays may be a fact of life for US gamblers, with moneybookers and the books I play at 24 hours is a long time to wait to get paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokernut9999 View Post
    Less than 2 days Not many places in the world you can mail anything and someone recieve it in 2 days. So you are saying you put in a request , it was processed and mailed and you recieved it in less than 2 days

    In my opinion less than 2 days would be either one day or the same day , so I call your bluff here Durito
    dont pay attention to 'cool ranch'

    he is a shill for the EVERY OFFSHORE BOOK IN OPERATION

    he gets a 5% bonus with 1000x rollover every time he tells americans the offshore industry is safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudcat View Post
    I have noticed a definite trend of increasing slow-pay in recent times.

    A used-to-be reliable book like Bet Atlas has been taking 2 months to make payouts for over a year now. Bet Las Palmas has recently gone from quick and efficient to a-couple-months-or-whenever. A+ book WSEX has had many episodes of slow-pays and bounced cheques in the last year.

    I had some Matchbook and Bookmaker payouts take over a week. Not a disaster - just not something that used to happen.

    I think even the SBR guys would admit they are rating books on a curve, and the curve has slid. A couple years ago, there is no way a book retains an A+ rating while doing some of the stuff WSEX has done.

    But a lower level of service has become expected, part of the landscape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betplom View Post
    Offshore slow pays may be a fact of life for US gamblers, with moneybookers and the books I play at 24 hours is a long time to wait to get paid.
    ok so yes we have come to accept this as standard

    but why arent the funds REMOVED FROM THE ACCOUNT WHEN YOU REQUEST A WITHDRAW??

    Bowmans was my #1 book back in the days...they would remove the funds instantly

    IS THERE ANY BOOK THAT DOES THAT NOW DAYS??

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    Durito...Shut the fcuk up! You received 11 checks since Superbowl in 2 days yet you still live in a filthy apartment at a 3rd world country riding a donkey to the ATM to get cash.

    unreal

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Durito...Shut the fcuk up! You received 11 checks since Superbowl in 2 days yet you still live in a filthy apartment at a 3rd world country riding a donkey to the ATM to get cash.

    unreal
    Pavy I'm buying a car this week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloak & Dagger View Post
    ok so yes we have come to accept this as standard

    but why arent the funds REMOVED FROM THE ACCOUNT WHEN YOU REQUEST A WITHDRAW??

    Bowmans was my #1 book back in the days...they would remove the funds instantly

    IS THERE ANY BOOK THAT DOES THAT NOW DAYS??

    PInnacle processes neteller withdrawals up to $50,000 in less than 10 minutes.

    Sorry you live in a fascist country and can't play there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Durito...Shut the fcuk up! You received 11 checks since Superbowl in 2 days yet you still live in a filthy apartment at a 3rd world country riding a donkey to the ATM to get cash.

    unreal

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    PInnacle processes neteller withdrawals up to $50,000 in less than 10 minutes.

    Sorry you live in a fascist country and can't play there.
    the same country which you and the other crooks who hold our money make a living off of

    back to your hut my son

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloak & Dagger View Post
    the same country which you and the other crooks who hold our money make a living off of

    back to your hut my son
    You have that backwards. I take money from the crooks that run those books. I'm sorry they have what was once your money.

    FWIW, my neighborhood and apartment is far nicer than anything you could afford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    You have that backwards. I take money from the crooks that run those books. I'm sorry they have what was once your money.

    FWIW, my neighborhood and apartment is far nicer than anything you could afford.


    odd...you act as if you are the donald trump of your village

    yet...you spend your days shilling for offshore sportsbooks for PEANUTS in return

    I dunno...how much does shilling pay now days??

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    You are really confused.

    I don't shill for any book. Most books are horridly run pieces of shit that I wouldn't recommend anyone play with. I take their money. That is my job. There are a handful of honest books like Greek/BetJM that I recommend people play at. That's it.

    I don't live in a village. I live in a modern city of 4 million people with perfect weather and the most beautiful women in the world.

    If you'd ever left your state you might discover it's a big world out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    You are really confused.

    I don't shill for any book. Most books are horridly run pieces of shit that I wouldn't recommend anyone play with. I take their money. That is my job. There are a handful of honest books like Greek/BetJM that I recommend people play at. That's it.

    I don't live in a village. I live in a modern city of 4 million people with perfect weather and the most beautiful women in the world.

    If you'd ever left your state you might discover it's a big world out there.

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    I get paid by BetJam like clockwork

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    You might be the dumbest mother ****er around.

    The only reason I encourage idiots to play online is the books need losers to pay winners. I don't work for a book nor do I have any interest in doing so.

    Have fun at your $8 an hour job tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casperwaits View Post
    I get paid by BetJam like clockwork
    So does everyone. Which is part of my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casperwaits View Post
    I get paid by BetJam like clockwork
    I used to play with them...

    I stopped for 2 reasons...when there was a horse race dispute to the tune of about $20,000...the customers personal info was plastered all over 3 different offshore forums...wonder how that happened?

    and the second reason is 9 times out of 10 when I call their number I get a busy signal

    garbage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloak & Dagger View Post
    I used to play with them...

    I stopped for 2 reasons...when there was a horse race dispute to the tune of about $20,000...the customers personal info was plastered all over 3 different offshore forums...wonder how that happened?
    It was leaked by a third party mediator that got the info directly from the client without any contact with Jamaica. This was widely reported. One however, needs an IQ over 43 to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    You might be the dumbest mother ****er around.

    The only reason I encourage idiots to play online is the books need losers to pay winners. I don't work for a book nor do I have any interest in doing so.

    Have fun at your $8 an hour job tomorrow.
    you live in a fairytale world...me and you head to head in a handicapping challenge..you lose

    ill put my handle here on the line

    all this talk 'taking the books money' sounds good

    but we all know the truth dont we cool ranch

    you aint taking shit but a 3% bonus with a 15000x rollover in exchange for shameless promotion

    you're a sad being

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    Quote Originally Posted by durito View Post
    It was leaked by a third party mediator that got the info directly from the client without any contact with Jamaica. This was widely reported. One however, needs an IQ over 43 to understand.
    oh look...now you work for betjam

    hey...can you tell me how many times Tony from 5dimes wiped his ass this morning when he shit??

    Over/Under 8?


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    Why did it take BM to get me a wire if you get checks in 2 days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloak & Dagger View Post
    ok so yes we have come to accept this as standard

    but why arent the funds REMOVED FROM THE ACCOUNT WHEN YOU REQUEST A WITHDRAW??

    Bowmans was my #1 book back in the days...they would remove the funds instantly

    IS THERE ANY BOOK THAT DOES THAT NOW DAYS??
    carib yanks the funds immediately and so did/goes SIA. intertops would let it sit 3 days and eventually you'd touch it and fukk it

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    Durito is a shill for the books?

    I still like to browse this forum occasionally to see what happens to a place after idiocy is allowed (encouraged) to reach critical mass. A shame, but at the same time fascinating in a strange way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLD View Post
    Durito is a shill for the books?

    I still like to browse this forum occasionally to see what happens to a place after idiocy is allowed (encouraged) to reach critical mass. A shame, but at the same time fascinating in a strange way.
    can you read?

    he defended about 10 books in this thread alone....

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    Cloak and Dagger its true. The books Durito named are paying lightning fast these days. I can vouch for 2 of them. I've heard this from people I trust too.

    I have no complaints and never have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fearless View Post
    There's no reason not to have faith with the democrats having nearly complete control of the government right now. The only reason the law banning internet betting was passed was because republicans had complete control of the government and just one republican got the ban through by attaching to another law. With the opposite situation there's no reason to believe Frank won't be successful, imho.


    I hope so. I still wish terrible things on Bill Frist [From my state] for doing that shit. Attaching a ****ing anti-gambling law to an anti-terrorism bill, **** him. I don't agree with Frank on all that many things but I'm cheering for him all the way here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fearless View Post
    There's no reason not to have faith with the democrats having nearly complete control of the government right now. The only reason the law banning internet betting was passed was because republicans had complete control of the government and just one republican got the ban through by attaching to another law. With the opposite situation there's no reason to believe Frank won't be successful, imho.
    Guys like 'Andywend' vote Republican and keep a poster of the Bush family in his living room

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