[bobby heenan]

Yeah. It will be crazy when the next guy to fight Floyd goes to touch gloves with Floyd at the beginning of the fight and then just throws a haymaker to his mouth instead and knocks him out. Floyd won't be able to complain though because you're supposed to protect yourself at all times, right?

ortiz hugged and kissed floyd...then tapped gloves and both guys went to the corners...cortez brought them back together and ortiz tried to hug him again.....how many times do u want to aplogize? how did floyd know vic wasnt gonna throw a punch right before he did? they were brought together by cortez to fight and ortiz tried to hug floyd while floyd had his gloves up to protect his face...keep crying...vic is weak minded...floyd is not

[Tree Rollins]

ortiz hugged and kissed floyd...then tapped gloves and both guys went to the corners...cortez brought them back together and ortiz tried to hug him again.....how many times do u want to aplogize? how did floyd know vic wasnt gonna throw a punch right before he did? they were brought together by cortez to fight and ortiz tried to hug floyd while floyd had his gloves up to protect his face...keep crying...vic is weak minded...floyd is not

Floyd CheapShot Mayweather isn't a retard. He knows when a guy is ready to fight and when he isn't. Was it against the rules to punch him there? No. Was it an unsportsmanlike and cowardly thing? No doubt about it. Like i said, i hope someone goes for the customary touch of the gloves at the start of his next fight, and just unloads on him instead. Would that be wrong? Apparently not to you, since it's within the rules. I just hope that when he punches his wife he at least waits til she's ready.
I hate to run into your kind in a street fight. You're the guy who punches someone when they aren't looking and then thinks they kicked someones ass. You don't realize that everyone else just thinks you're a pussy.

[daimoshokage]

Typical from BLACKS!

[bobby heenan]

Floyd CheapShot Mayweather isn't a retard. He knows when a guy is ready to fight and when he isn't. Was it against the rules to punch him there? No. Was it an unsportsmanlike and cowardly thing? No doubt about it. Like i said, i hope someone goes for the customary touch of the gloves at the start of his next fight, and just unloads on him instead. Would that be wrong? Apparently not to you, since it's within the rules. I just hope that when he punches his wife he at least waits til she's ready.
I hate to run into your kind in a street fight. You're the guy who punches someone when they aren't looking and then thinks they kicked someones ass. You don't realize that everyone else just thinks you're a pussy.

I love how its assumed I'm a real life cheapshot artist cuz I defend Floyd...never thrown one in my life...been on the receiving end of a few....as far as I'm concerned if u sucker me n I n up punching u in your balls its fair game...Vic started tht shit with the butt....n he wanted to kiss floyds ass multiple times after. Trying to make it a street fight....it was time to fight..not hug n kiss..floyd was statisically dominating him n landing lead right hands with ease...Vic was frustrated....Floyd was dominating a 165 lb southpaw..the guy tried to cut Floyd n risk floyds career with his head

[TexansFan]

I don't think any of us were there the night the offenses were alleged to have transpired, having said that I'm relieved that Floyd evaded a more serious sentence involving more jail-time. I'd like to see him dominate Pac and then retire on top, but he doesn't need the fight to cement his legacy. If he's not statistically the most accurate puncher ever, he's gotta be top 5.

He pled guilty, nothings alleged at this point. He knew if he went to trial he would have gotten much worse. With his money and his ability to hire the best lawyers, he knew he would have been found guilty and plea bargained for the best deal.

He's a pussy that hits women.

[William Walters]

Floyd is a great, great boxer, beyond wealthy, quite the P.R. man, at times donates to good causes, but is a pathetic excuse of a man/father.

[SBR_John]

He pled guilty, nothings alleged at this point. He knew if he went to trial he would have gotten much worse. With his money and his ability to hire the best lawyers, he knew he would have been found guilty and plea bargained for the best deal.

He's a pussy that hits women.

Can't stand the guy. He is by far the most over rated fighter since Clooney.(was that his name? Cooney?)

My toes actually curl when guys put him in the league of a Rocky Marciano or even a Roberto Duran. I could just off the top of my head think of 25 better fighters and probably 50. Give me an hour and it could be a 100. Even the cheap shot knock out in the last fight was against a relative nobody that he would have barely outpointed except for the cheap shot. I doubt he's even the best fighter in the county jailhouse.

[AribaAriba]

hope he learned a lesson not to hit a woman ever in his life vegas will be 3 months safer during his tenure

[Pabinator]

Mayweather is trying to clean up the sport. Who cares if he hits a woman a couple of times!?

[Creditsforedits]

Lot of obfuscation in this thread... Mayweather is undoubtedly one of the best boxers to ever enter the ring and he has done enough to prove that, even to people who get so caught up in the swirling emotions that he produces through his marketing, style and comments.

He is also guilty of a nasty crime, regardless of what else happened on that day he struck a woman and he confessed and is taking his punishment.

Criminal and great boxer...

[SBR Lou]

Condemn Floyd Mayweather Jr. the person, but not the boxer.

Floyd's been in a gym since he was two years old. He grew up in a family of fighters. He dropped out of school to fully immerse himself in boxing as it was the quickest road to supporting his loved ones. He was 84-6 as an amateur, got robbed in the Olympics in a match that saw one official resign and is undefeated as a professional. He made mincemeat of Arturo Gatti, Diego Corrales, Ricky Hatton, Zab Judah - the list goes on.

You can attack him for not being the most electrifying stylistically, but he never has problem making weight, doesn't drink, smoke, never underwhelms, and has single-handedly resuscitated boxing. There's a reason he's making $40M a fight. People tune in to root for and against him; the show he created (24/7 on HBO) draws massive ratings and he has personality. You either love or hate Floyd Mayweather Jr as a boxer. He's cultivated a masterful image of himself that sells. He doesn't move when a promoter tells him to, unlike other fighters that have feasted off his leftovers, sometimes defeating them in far less convincing fashion.

Lastly, look at his Compubox stats after each fight. A great boxer doesn't need to get pummeled each fight and swing with reckless abandon to dominate the game. Those who are looking for cheap and violent thrills should watch the UFC.

[Bcatswin]

Condemn Floyd Mayweather Jr. the person, but not the boxer.

Floyd's been in a gym since he was two years old. He grew up in a family of fighters. He dropped out of school to fully immerse himself in boxing as it was the quickest road to supporting his loved ones. He was 84-6 as an amateur, got robbed in the Olympics in a match that saw one official resign and is undefeated as a professional. He made mincemeat of Arturo Gatti, Diego Corrales, Ricky Hatton, Zab Judah - the list goes on.

You can attack him for not being the most electrifying stylistically, but he never has problem making weight, doesn't drink, smoke, never underwhelms, and has single-handedly resuscitated boxing. There's a reason he's making $40M a fight. People tune in to root for and against him; the show he created (24/7 on HBO) draws massive ratings and he has personality. You either love or hate Floyd Mayweather Jr as a boxer. He's cultivated a masterful image of himself that sells. He doesn't move when a promoter tells him to, unlike other fighters that have feasted off his leftovers, sometimes defeating them in far less convincing fashion.

Lastly, look at his Compubox stats after each fight. A great boxer doesn't need to get pummeled each fight and swing with reckless abandon to dominate the game. Those who are looking for cheap and violent thrills should watch the UFC.

[Big Bear]

Typical from BLACKS!

dude that is racist as hell.

[MARVEL]

Typical from BLACKS!

dude that is racist as hell.

There is safety in hiding behind a computer screen and a keyboard my friend.

[MARVEL]

Condemn Floyd Mayweather Jr. the person, but not the boxer. Floyd's been in a gym since he was two years old. He grew up in a family of fighters. He dropped out of school to fully immerse himself in boxing as it was the quickest road to supporting his loved ones. He was 84-6 as an amateur, got robbed in the Olympics in a match that saw one official resign and is undefeated as a professional. He made mincemeat of Arturo Gatti, Diego Corrales, Ricky Hatton, Zab Judah - the list goes on. You can attack him for not being the most electrifying stylistically, but he never has problem making weight, doesn't drink, smoke, never underwhelms, and has single-handedly resuscitated boxing. There's a reason he's making $40M a fight. People tune in to root for and against him; the show he created (24/7 on HBO) draws massive ratings and he has personality. You either love or hate Floyd Mayweather Jr as a boxer. He's cultivated a masterful image of himself that sells. He doesn't move when a promoter tells him to, unlike other fighters that have feasted off his leftovers, sometimes defeating them in far less convincing fashion. Lastly, look at his Compubox stats after each fight. A great boxer doesn't need to get pummeled each fight and swing with reckless abandon to dominate the game. Those who are looking for cheap and violent thrills should watch the UFC.

Real recognize real

[ApricotSinner32]

Condemn Floyd Mayweather Jr. the person, but not the boxer.

Floyd's been in a gym since he was two years old. He grew up in a family of fighters. He dropped out of school to fully immerse himself in boxing as it was the quickest road to supporting his loved ones. He was 84-6 as an amateur, got robbed in the Olympics in a match that saw one official resign and is undefeated as a professional. He made mincemeat of Arturo Gatti, Diego Corrales, Ricky Hatton, Zab Judah - the list goes on.

You can attack him for not being the most electrifying stylistically, but he never has problem making weight, doesn't drink, smoke, never underwhelms, and has single-handedly resuscitated boxing. There's a reason he's making $40M a fight. People tune in to root for and against him; the show he created (24/7 on HBO) draws massive ratings and he has personality. You either love or hate Floyd Mayweather Jr as a boxer. He's cultivated a masterful image of himself that sells. He doesn't move when a promoter tells him to, unlike other fighters that have feasted off his leftovers, sometimes defeating them in far less convincing fashion.

Lastly, look at his Compubox stats after each fight. A great boxer doesn't need to get pummeled each fight and swing with reckless abandon to dominate the game. Those who are looking for cheap and violent thrills should watch the UFC.

Wrong... he paid marquez 500k to fight 2 pounds over the limit of their fight in 2009.

[SBR_John]

Lot of obfuscation in this thread... Mayweather is undoubtedly one of the best boxers to ever enter the ring and he has done enough to prove that, even to people who get so caught up in the swirling emotions that he produces through his marketing, style and comments.

He is also guilty of a nasty crime, regardless of what else happened on that day he struck a woman and he confessed and is taking his punishment.

Criminal and great boxer...

Good post. I'd say he is great at scheduling old fighters and is a good defensive boxer. Pound for pound he couldn't hold Leonard's jock or any great fighter like Hearns, Hagler, Duran, Jones Jr.

Here are his 42 wins. If you find a big name on the list you can bet they were past their prime. Defintely no one of the caliber of a Roberto Duran or Sugar Ray Leonard.

Win 42–0 United States Victor Ortiz KO 4 (12), 2:59 2011-09-17 United States MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada Won WBC welterweight title.
Win 41–0 United States Shane Mosley UD 12 2010-05-01 United States MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada WBA (Super) welterweight title on the line for Mosley only.
Mayweather refused to pay WBA sanctioning fees.
Win 40–0 Mexico Juan Manuel Márquez UD 12 2009-09-19 United States MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada A non-title welterweight fight.
Win 39–0 United Kingdom Ricky Hatton TKO 10 (12), 1:35 2007-12-08 United States MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada Retained WBC & The Ring welterweight titles.
Win 38–0 United States Oscar De La Hoya SD 12 2007-05-05 United States MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada Won WBC super welterweight title.
Win 37–0 Argentina Carlos Baldomir UD 12 2006-11-04 United States Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada Won WBC & The Ring welterweight titles.
Win 36–0 United States Zab Judah UD 12 2006-04-08 United States Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada Won IBF welterweight titles.
Win 35–0 United States Sharmba Mitchell TKO 6 (12), 2:06 2005-11-19 United States Rose Garden, Portland, Oregon A non-title welterweight fight.
Win 34–0 Canada Arturo Gatti RTD 6 (12), 3:00 2005-06-25 United States Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey Won WBC super lightweight title.
Win 33–0 Puerto Rico Henry Bruseles TKO 8 (12), 2:55 2005-01-22 United States American Airlines Arena, Miami, Florida WBC super lightweight Title Eliminator.
Win 32–0 United States DeMarcus Corley UD 12 2004-05-22 United States Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey WBC super lightweight Title Eliminator.
Win 31–0 South Africa Phillip N'dou TKO 7 (12), 1:08 2003-11-01 United States Van Andel Arena, Grand Rapids, Michigan Retained WBC & The Ring lightweight titles.
Win 30–0 Dominican Republic Victoriano Sosa UD 12 2003-04-19 United States Selland Arena, Fresno, California Retained WBC & The Ring lightweight titles.
Win 29–0 Mexico José Luis Castillo UD 12 2002-12-07 United States Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada Retained WBC & The Ring lightweight titles.
Win 28–0 Mexico José Luis Castillo UD 12 2002-04-20 United States MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada Won WBC & vacant The Ring lightweight titles.
Win 27–0 Mexico Jesús Chávez RTD 9 (12), 3:00 2001-11-10 United States Bill Graham Civic Auditorium, San Francisco, California Retained Lineal & WBC super featherweight titles.
Win 26–0 United States Carlos Hernández UD 12 2001-05-26 United States Van Andel Arena, Grand Rapids, Michigan Retained Lineal & WBC super featherweight titles.
Win 25–0 United States Diego Corrales TKO 10 (12), 2:19 2001-01-20 United States MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada Retained Lineal & WBC super featherweight titles.
Win 24–0 United States Emanuel Augustus TKO 9 (10), 1:06 2000-10-21 United States Cobo Center, Detroit, Michigan A non-title lightweight fight.
Win 23–0 Mexico Gregorio Vargas UD 12 2000-03-18 United States MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada Retained Lineal & WBC super featherweight titles.
Win 22–0 Puerto Rico Carlos Gerena RTD 7 (12), 3:00 1999-09-11 United States Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada Retained Lineal & WBC super featherweight titles.
Win 21–0 Uganda Justin Juuko KO 9 (12), 1:20 1999-05-22 United States Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada Retained Lineal & WBC super featherweight titles.
Win 20–0 Argentina Carlos Rios UD 12 1999-02-17 United States Van Andel Arena, Grand Rapids, Michigan Retained Lineal & WBC super featherweight titles.
Win 19–0 United States Angel Manfredy TKO 2 (12), 2:47 1998-12-19 United States Miccosukee Indian Reservation, Miami, Florida Retained Lineal & WBC super featherweight titles.
Win 18–0 United States Genaro Hernández RTD 8 (12), 3:00 1998-10-03 United States Las Vegas Hilton, Las Vegas, Nevada Won Lineal & WBC super featherweight Titles.
Win 17–0 Canada Tony Pep UD 10 1998-06-14 United States Trump Taj Mahal, Atlantic City, New Jersey
Win 16–0 Argentina Gustavo Cuello UD 10 1998-04-18 United States Grand Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California
Win 15–0 Dominican Republic Miguel Melo TKO 3 (10), 2:30 1998-03-23 United States Foxwoods Resort Casino, Mashantucket, Connecticut
Win 14–0 United States Sam Girard TKO 2 (10), 2:47 1998-02-28 United States Bally's Atlantic City, Atlantic City, New Jersey
Win 13–0 Puerto Rico Hector Arroyo TKO 5 (10), 1:21 1998-01-09 United States Grand Casino Biloxi, Biloxi, Mississippi
Win 12–0 United States Angelo Nuñez TKO 3 (8), 2:42 1997-11-20 United States Grand Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California
Win 11–0 Mexico Felipe Garcia KO 6 (8), 2:56 1997-10-14 United States Qwest Arena, Boise, Idaho
Win 10–0 United States Louie Leija TKO 2 (10), 2:33 1997-09-06 United States El Paso County Coliseum, El Paso, Texas
Win 9–0 Mexico Jesús Chávez TKO 5 (6), 2:02 1997-07-12 United States Grand Casino Biloxi, Biloxi, Mississippi
Win 8–0 United States Larry O'Shields UD 6 1997-06-14 United States Alamodome, San Antonio, Texas
Win 7–0 United States Tony Duran TKO 1 (6), 1:12 1997-05-09 United States Orleans Hotel & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada
Win 6–0 United States Bobby Giepert KO 1 (6), 1:30 1997-04-12 United States Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada
Win 5–0 United States Kino Rodriguez TKO 1 (6), 1:44 1997-03-12 United States DeltaPlex Arena, Walker, Michigan
Win 4–0 United States Edgar Ayala TKO 2 (4), 1:39 1997-02-01 United States Swiss Park Hall, Chula Vista, California
Win 3–0 United States Jerry Cooper TKO 1 (4), 1:39 1997-01-18 United States Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada
Win 2–0 United States Reggie Sanders UD 4 1996-11-30 United States Tingley Coliseum, Albuquerque, New Mexico
Win 1–0 Mexico Roberto Apodaca TKO 2 (4), 0:37 1996-10-11 United States Texas Station, Las Vegas, Nevada Mayweather's professional debut.

[sideloaded]

i just hope he doesnt get aids inside.

[Statman]

When the fight eventually does happen, you just know this is going to be the first of three fights. Each boxer and their crew will MILK this as much as they can...

[JohnGalt2341]

Those who are looking for cheap and violent thrills should watch the UFC.

Thanks for the tip. I will continue to watch MMA. Not only because it's 10 times more entertaining than Boxing but also because the average MMA fighter has more class in his pinky than fighters like Floyd do. Let's take a look at the current UFC Champions:

Junior Dos Santos
Jon Jones
Anderson Silva
Georges St. Pierre
Frankie Edgar
Jose Aldo
Dominick Cruz

All of these guys are GREAT fighters but they also have a lot of class. If any of my sisters was dating ANY of these guys it wouldn't bother me at all. However, if one of my sisters told me she was dating Floyd Mayweather I would wonder what her motive was. Floyd is a great Boxer... no doubt... but compared to even an average MMA fighter he has no class. Not to mention... in a fight with no rules... he would get CRUSHED by ANYONE in the UFC.

I should mention that I was a HUGE Boxing fan in the 80's and even most of the 90's but I think the time of Boxing is coming to an end. Floyd is currently the best that Boxing has to offer and he's not representing the sport very well.

[Tree Rollins]

I love how its assumed I'm a real life cheapshot artist cuz I defend Floyd...never thrown one in my life...been on the receiving end of a few....as far as I'm concerned if u sucker me n I n up punching u in your balls its fair game...Vic started tht shit with the butt....n he wanted to kiss floyds ass multiple times after. Trying to make it a street fight....it was time to fight..not hug n kiss..floyd was statisically dominating him n landing lead right hands with ease...Vic was frustrated....Floyd was dominating a 165 lb southpaw..the guy tried to cut Floyd n risk floyds career with his head

Yeah, the butt did start it. I think Ortiz is a coward as much as Mayweather. They were both dirty and i don't see how anyone could defend either of them. I'm not defending Ortiz and his butt. Me defending Ortiz' headbutt would be like me defending Mayweathers cheap shot. I understand that Floyd didn't break the rules by punching him. That doesn't change the fact that it was a total cheap shot. What's the difference between Floyd punching him after the 3rd apology, or after the 1st? The whole point is that 1-he knew Ortiz wasn't ready and 2- the ref had never even actually told them to start fighting again, and 3- neither Ortiz or the ref was even looking. So it's not like Mayweather was confused or not about whether to start fighting. He was probably pissed off over the butt and said 'fuk it, i'm going to go ahead and cheap shot this guy'. Ok, fine, if that's who you wanna be then go for it. But don't act like you just accomplished something. All he did was make himself as much of a bitch as the guy who threw the headbutt. I don't think either of them has any honor after that fight. And i don't see how someone could possibly defend the butt or the cheap shot. I was actually a Floyd fan before this fight but i will never again root for him in my life.

[SBR Lou]

Watch the video again, the ref motioned them toward eachother. He inexplicably looked at the judges afterward but Floyd threw the punches after the ref signaled to fight.

[Tree Rollins]

Watch the video again, the ref motioned them toward eachother. He inexplicably looked at the judges afterward but Floyd threw the punches after the ref signaled to fight.

I take your word for it. Still think it's a cheap shot though. Like I've said before, the refs motion them to fight at the start of the 1st round too, and when a guy goes to touch gloves, you never see anyone start throwing punches on them. Out of respect, or class, or honor, for whatever reason, it just never happens. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

[baskets]

these featherweight boxing matches are boring as hell.

you guys might get a hard on watching guys weighing 150 lbs box each other, but I'd rather see the heavy hitters throwing bombs

[bobby heenan]

Yeah, the butt did start it. I think Ortiz is a coward as much as Mayweather. They were both dirty and i don't see how anyone could defend either of them. I'm not defending Ortiz and his butt. Me defending Ortiz' headbutt would be like me defending Mayweathers cheap shot. I understand that Floyd didn't break the rules by punching him. That doesn't change the fact that it was a total cheap shot. What's the difference between Floyd punching him after the 3rd apology, or after the 1st? The whole point is that 1-he knew Ortiz wasn't ready and 2- the ref had never even actually told them to start fighting again, and 3- neither Ortiz or the ref was even looking. So it's not like Mayweather was confused or not about whether to start fighting. He was probably pissed off over the butt and said 'fuk it, i'm going to go ahead and cheap shot this guy'. Ok, fine, if that's who you wanna be then go for it. But don't act like you just accomplished something. All he did was make himself as much of a bitch as the guy who threw the headbutt. I don't think either of them has any honor after that fight. And i don't see how someone could possibly defend the butt or the cheap shot. I was actually a Floyd fan before this fight but i will never again root for him in my life.

it makes a difference to me....that it was after the 3rd apology...floyd was pretty gracious the first two times...but thats enough...they are there to fight not hug and kiss in the midde of the ring

you have to remember ...floyd is giving this kid an opportunity of a lifetime...payday of a lifetime...hbo exposure on 24/7...and the potential to defeat him which could bring much more....

look at the compubox numbers through those first 4 rounds....floyd was killing it as usual...even more impressive if u remember that he wasnt even trying to land the jab..he was using it to paw and measure.....he was landing lead right hands easily....if u know anything u know that is a major insult and is basically saying "you dont belong in my league"...it just doesnt happen that often at the world class level where an orthodox figther is able to land that punch easily and repeatedly.....vic was getting very frustrated....even more so just before the butt...he landed a decent shot on floyd then tried to push him back and land a bunch more...but he wasnt catching floyd with anything or hurting him...reality and frustration were setting in

if u look at the butt...u have to know that butt potentially could have caused floyd problems if it opened up something serious around the eyes....if someone opens floyd up with a punch so be it...well see what hes made of....but that kind of shit is dirty and not needed....it could have put floyd in a real tough spot wheres he has to choose whether or not to fight through it or not...and could potentially cost him...for a fighter like him that 0 means alot to his marketability...and for it to be potentially put on the line for some dirty shit when hes giving this kid the chance of a lifetime is insulting....

99 percent of fighters probably wouldnt have done what floyd did....but thats just floyd ....he is that 1 percent...its what seperates him from the rest of the world....hes a heads up and alert fighter(how else do u explain him getting rocked by shane and knowing exactly what to do in a matter of seconds by tying his arm up so he couldnt get off more shots)....vic already pulled a dirty on him...how does he know vic woudnt try to throw a punch at him in that situation?...floyds always in control and is mentally strong....that mental strength is what seperates him....think about somebody like zab judah...who is blessed with the same physica talent but is mentally weak and not strong enough between the ears to be a great fighter....