1. 12-20-11 05:21 AM #1
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    NJ Removes 2 Key Provisions Of Sports Betting Bill In Hopes Of Getting It Approved

    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and state Sen. Ray Lesniak walk different sides of the street on most issues. Christie is an in-your-face conservative Republican who likes nothing better than ripping teachers unions and other public-service employees, and Lesniak is a liberal Democrat who has among other things spent decades advocating for the rights of state employees.

    But oil and water will have to mix as the state moves toward a court challenge to the federal law which limits unfettered sports betting to Nevada and more-limited wagering in Oregon, Montana and Delaware. And Lesniak has made the first move, removing two key provisions from legislation that would to take the choke chains off state lawyers in an expected 2012 legal challenge.

    In order to make placate Christie and pre-empt a veto that would cripple the bill and set back efforts for months, if not longer, Lesniak and other co-sponsors have agreed to delete portions of the bill that would allow placing of bets from home computers or smartphones.

    The move may actually be a sign that the Christie and Lesniak camps are talking. Last March Christie vetoed Lesniak-backed legislation that would have made New Jersey the first state in the country to sanction online gambling. Perhaps this time Christie at least sent word to Lesniak that he needed to prune the sports betting bill; if so, it would be a sign of cooperation.

    Lesniak had hoped to have the bill signed by Christmas, but now a vote is expected on Jan. 9 on the revised plan.

    Last month voters set the legislation in motion via referendum by overwhelmingly (65-35) backing a state challenge to the 1992 Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act -- spearheaded, ironically, by then-N.J. Sen. Bill Bradley.
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  2. 12-20-11 05:31 AM #2
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    Hang tight Coach. Common sense will prevail soon enough...
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  3. 12-20-11 05:38 AM #3
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    I have no need for this

    Not driving to place bets
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  4. 12-20-11 05:42 AM #4
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    Isn't the Costa Rican Gaming Control Board based in New Jersey? I don't see the problem if online sites from Costa Rica are already being regulated from with in the state. I say fire that shit up, launch a few New Jersey ones and let JJ and other board members sort out the regulation part.
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  5. 12-20-11 06:34 AM #5
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    Thought you didn't care about NJ sports betting JJ? What happened to "Fuk NJ, it's a dump."
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  6. 12-20-11 06:38 AM #6
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    They got rid of the online provision.
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  7. 12-20-11 06:45 AM #7
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    This would help Atlantic City big time.
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  8. 12-20-11 08:14 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportsbetting123 View Post
    This would help Atlantic City big time.
    Atlantic City and The Big M could both use the boost
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  9. 12-20-11 08:26 AM #9
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    Would Love to see this happen.... I'd be making the 4-hour trip to new jersey at least twice a month.
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  10. 12-20-11 08:30 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    Would Love to see this happen.... I'd be making the 4-hour trip to new jersey at least twice a month.
    Why??
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  11. 12-20-11 11:46 AM #11
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    Best they'll ever get is a sports lottery, similar to Delaware.

    Feds will never allow sports betting, even at a NJ casino. Never.
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  12. 12-20-11 11:56 AM #12
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    one time, they neeed to make this happen
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  13. 12-20-11 12:06 PM #13
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    Race tracks would be booming again if this passes
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  14. 12-20-11 02:32 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Slew View Post
    Best they'll ever get is a sports lottery, similar to Delaware. Feds will never allow sports betting, even at a NJ casino. Never.
    This will happen without a doubt.

    I guarantee it.

    NJ will have full sports betting by 2015
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  15. 12-20-11 03:21 PM #15
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    There is no good Constitutional reason that the feds can stop states from allowing sports gambling and even less that they can allow Nevada and no other state.
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  16. 12-20-11 04:20 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul2008 View Post
    There is no good Constitutional reason that the feds can stop states from allowing sports gambling and even less that they can allow Nevada and no other state.
    Yep... this law will not hold up in the courts. Rhode Island was all about this about 5 years ago but it got pushed to the side... If it passes in New Jersey, Rhode Island will be next in line.
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  17. 12-20-11 04:43 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    Yep... this law will not hold up in the courts. Rhode Island was all about this about 5 years ago but it got pushed to the side... If it passes in New Jersey, Rhode Island will be next in line.
    Big difference in NJ and RI in regards to what was on the table and the provisions beforehand.

    NJ will be the east coast equivalent to Vegas.

    Take it from someone that has spoken in front of the Senate on this same topic.
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  18. 12-20-11 04:52 PM #18
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    I heard Good ole Goldman Sachs and Cantor Fitzgerald are already moving in on the US Market of sports bettors.........
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  19. 12-20-11 04:53 PM #19
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    it will never happen vegas wont let it happen
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  20. 12-20-11 05:28 PM #20
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    such a greedy world we live in. If they don't allow it because of vegas. You'd have to be dumb not to realize more people would take advantage of this if you could bet from a computer or smartphone. So dumb.
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  21. 12-20-11 05:34 PM #21
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    Can't wait!!!!!
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  22. 12-20-11 06:19 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casperwaits View Post
    Big difference in NJ and RI in regards to what was on the table and the provisions beforehand.

    NJ will be the east coast equivalent to Vegas.

    Take it from someone that has spoken in front of the Senate on this same topic.
    Oh yeah.. I agree.... Rhode island never went through with it at all.... but if new jersey gets approved.... you get the feeling Rhode island will try to duplicate it. The states in big trouble with mass approving casinos and I've heard they would seriously pursue it.
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  23. 12-20-11 06:33 PM #23
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    AC will be basking in cash if this gets through the courts. Imagine you're an east coast guy (Philly, NYC)---and it's opening weekend of March Madness or the first weekend of College Football? Load up--- head off to AC, and have an incredible weekend.
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  24. 12-20-11 08:01 PM #24
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    What a ridiculous opening paragraph. How much are you paying in property taxes, you probably get the low end in that dump you call Clifton, 7-8k/ year It's about 15k in middle income neighborhoods. People are leaving in droves
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  25. 12-20-11 08:49 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I have no need for this

    Not driving to place bets
    JJ, I read this last week in one of the papers (I think Phila Inquirer, or PhillyNews). I don't think it is a big deal for now. Like putting an enormous cart before two small horses. It will be an uphill battle as it is to get the bill passed and okayed but not impossible. Let's get the bill passed, then we can worry about these other things. They made a smart move, in my opinion.
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  26. 12-20-11 09:06 PM #26
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    call up that politician and make a video. Say you have an entire website of voters who want online gambling decriminalized.
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  27. 12-21-11 05:16 AM #27
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    Christie is an in-your-face conservative Republican who likes nothing better than ripping teachers unions and other public-service employees
    Unions have no place in our educational system or anywhere in the public sector.

    How can politicians be so right on target when it comes to getting rid of labor unions while at the same time being so wrong about online gambling?
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  28. 12-21-11 06:16 AM #28
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    It would be weird to go to the Meadowland and place sports bets

    Place would be mobbed
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  29. 12-21-11 06:31 AM #29
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    If and when the perfect storm of political necessity, money from the right people, and an environment of heavy upside down state budgets occurs......well big things have come to fruition over alot less in history.
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  30. 12-21-11 06:54 AM #30
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    so what happens to the local mob bookies?
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  31. 12-21-11 07:51 AM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by kfranz31 View Post
    it will never happen vegas wont let it happen
    Ignoring that Nevada has little say in the issue I can't see why Vegas would care if sports betting was legal in NJ... For the most part the casinos there see sports books as a loss leader and it has be a minuscule percentage of the people that live in Vegas or visit strictly based on access to sports betting and an even smaller number who would opt for New Jersey's books over Nevada's...
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  32. 12-21-11 10:01 PM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    It would be weird to go to the Meadowland and place sports bets

    Place would be mobbed
    No doubt about that!
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