[Bootman215]

Plain and simply have bet guardian show a copy back and front of canceelled check

[KEdge2k]

Shame on this scam artist.... threatening to report a book to the FBI if they don't meet your ridiculous demands.

Disgusting behavior.

[Bootman215]

If I was on the outside looking in I would have 2 major concerns: 1) Why didn't the book put a stop on the check and reissue a new one. If the check was cashed they would know who cashed it and that would have ended this immediately. 2) Why would the player involve the authorities which includes the FBI and risk himself being caught up in a legal matter ? This player has contacted the authorities and have reported " The Guardian Guarantee Corporation and its affiliates for foul play. Guys, again this was just a warning. Predict alot of winnings, collect alot of money and the main thing is be careful where you deposit your money it might just be a bogus bookstore. This is my last transmission as " The Bootman has left the building "

Bill: You know it was not a check and you know you didn't bother to talk to them about taking any action whatever it may have been.

You don't know your facts. Ask Carter to send the 2 or 3 chats that preceeded the one he conveniently sent you. Those have the facts and nothing but the facts. Give you 8-1 he won't send you those because they shoot down his nonsense and his so called offer.

[tommygun]

1 of these parties is lying.

[Bootman215]

You don't know your facts. Ask Carter to send the 2 or 3 chats that preceeded the one he conveniently sent you. Those have the facts and nothing but the facts. Give you 8-1 he won't send you those because they shoot down his nonsense and his so called offer.

You say I didn't bother to talk to them about taking action, your previuos post with the live chat says I threatened to take action you don't remember already it was your post #30. Seems like you have your facts mixed up too.

[ehp6737]

1 of these parties is lying.

Isn't it pretty obvious which one? I felt like I needed to take a shower after reading that chat. This bootman is a scamming scumbag plain and simple. Go back and read the chat again, but with a mindset that he had no idea where his package was at the time he initiated the chat. Funny how he had such quick and detailed statements for the chat agent right off the bat. It reads to me clear as day someone who already knew his package was "signed for" and basically had planned responses. He's obviously done this before without question. He was threatening them with the Feds (which is so lame regardless of the circumstances) before he even bothered to call DHL one time? Who wouldnt bother picking up the phone to verify the info he saw online and atleast inquire, before raising holy hell? It's quite clear he has a routine and this is what he does.

After the few first initial posts OP you could already tell something smelled funny right off the bat. The chat just confirms those suspicions. For instance......

1) Bill and SBR have no reason to blindly side with BetGuardian. Who the fuk is BetGuardian anyway? I've never used them, vagely heard the name before, and they're not a sponsor here. Separate from that, SBR & Justin7 have done nothing but be fair & impartial when it comes to these types of disputes IMO.

If they wanted to just cover up for the book and silence you, then this thread would've never seen the light of day......RX style. Why the fuk would they allow you to STILL even now have a forum to be heard if they werent fair & unbiased?

2) Who the hell would be sitting at your door waiting to steal a flat envelope? Or even know to expect it? An Apple or Sony package that is clearly marked?.....possibly.....even that is remote. But a flat envelope 99.999999999% no. and given your "history" That Bill eluded to, It's safe to say the 0.000000001% chance your story was true went out the window with your credibility.

One interesting tidbid that struck me in one of your earlier posts was you said you were "40 miles away at work at time it was delivered". So why would you have them overnight a package to you that you knew you'd have to sign for when you knew you'd be 40 miles away at the time? None of this adds up at all.


3) You keep alluding to these "other chats" that they wont show that will clear your name or whatever. Well what if these chats dont actually exist? How do they prove a negative? It's easy for you to claim they're covering up because they wont produce evidence that doesnt actually even exist.

How do they show copies of cancelled/cashed checks, if they didnt send you a check? The last few "checks" that I've received from books were actually USPS MO's, which dont get returned to the purchaser after they're cashed.

Just go away scumbag, no one here is obviously going to help you anymore. You tried, you failed, just move on to your next scam.

[Bootman215]

Isn't it pretty obvious which one? I felt like I needed to take a shower after reading that chat. This bootman is a scamming scumbag plain and simple. Go back and read the chat again, but with a mindset that he had no idea where his package was at the time he initiated the chat. Funny how he had such quick and detailed statements for the chat agent right off the bat. It reads to me clear as day someone who already knew his package was "signed for" and basically had planned responses. He's obviously done this before without question. He was threatening them with the Feds (which is so lame regardless of the circumstances) before he even bothered to call DHL one time? Who wouldnt bother picking up the phone to verify the info he saw online and atleast inquire, before raising holy hell? It's quite clear he has a routine and this is what he does.

After the few first initial posts OP you could already tell something smelled funny right off the bat. The chat just confirms those suspicions. For instance......

1) Bill and SBR have no reason to blindly side with BetGuardian. Who the fuk is BetGuardian anyway? I've never used them, vagely heard the name before, and they're not a sponsor here. Separate from that, SBR & Justin7 have done nothing but be fair & impartial when it comes to these types of disputes IMO.

If they wanted to just cover up for the book and silence you, then this thread would've never seen the light of day......RX style. Why the fuk would they allow you to STILL even now have a forum to be heard if they werent fair & unbiased?

2) Who the hell would be sitting at your door waiting to steal a flat envelope? Or even know to expect it? An Apple or Sony package that is clearly marked?.....possibly.....even that is remote. But a flat envelope 99.999999999% no. and given your "history" That Bill eluded to, It's safe to say the 0.000000001% chance your story was true went out the window with your credibility.

One interesting tidbid that struck me in one of your earlier posts was you said you were "40 miles away at work at time it was delivered". So why would you have them overnight a package to you that you knew you'd have to sign for when you knew you'd be 40 miles away at the time? None of this adds up at all.


3) You keep alluding to these "other chats" that they wont show that will clear your name or whatever. Well what if these chats dont actually exist? How do they prove a negative? It's easy for you to claim they're covering up because they wont produce evidence that doesnt actually even exist.

How do they show copies of cancelled/cashed checks, if they didnt send you a check? The last few "checks" that I've received from books were actually USPS MO's, which dont get returned to the purchaser after they're cashed.

Just go away scumbag, no one here is obviously going to help you anymore. You tried, you failed, just move on to your next scam.

Sherlock Holmes
1. I asked for a check because a exceeded the maximun for a payout and I thought it was by regular mail since they told me it would take 7-10 days
2. Money orders have reciepts and #'s corresponding to them so they could put a stop on it.
3. Detailed answers for the chat ahole it was the 2 or 3rd chat already and I was getting the same answers
4. You know it all but know nothing who the hell do you think you are.
5. I did check the web site and did call DHL but they wanted a local police report and I first asked Bet guardian how they wanted to handle it.
6. You should use your great gambling and prediction ability for your career in gambling. Your the best. BTW what do you do for a living ?

[KEdge2k]

Bootman -- why did you immediately threaten to report BetGuardian to the FBI when they didn't meet your initial demands?

[Bootman215]

If you read deeper and see the facts Mr. K the package was supposedly delivered on 12/1, I first approached them on 12/7 for a status of the package after all this was my first dealers with Bet Guardian and it's only natural to have a little concern about a payoff with a new book. So for 3 days Scott Carter of Guardian played me and that's when I threatened him. I have nothing to gain by telling my story I am just frustrated I know my money is history. Everyone out there seems to know exactly what's going on but they truly know nothing. Be my guest play with the m and you too might get beat. Good luck to all you know it alls. What gets me here is you fellas support and back the books there the badguys and scum of the earth for making a living off of other peoples grief and hardships. Don't understand that.

[ehp6737]

Sherlock Holmes
1. I asked for a check because a exceeded the maximun for a payout and I thought it was by regular mail since they told me it would take 7-10 days
2. Money orders have reciepts and #'s corresponding to them so they could put a stop on it.
3. Detailed answers for the chat ahole it was the 2 or 3rd chat already and I was getting the same answers
4. You know it all but know nothing who the hell do you think you are.
5. I did check the web site and did call DHL but they wanted a local police report and I first asked Bet guardian how they wanted to handle it.
6. You should use your great gambling and prediction ability for your career in gambling. Your the best. BTW what do you do for a living ?

You're so full of sh*t its pathetic. Obviously what's posted here is not the "2nd or 3rd" chat regarding the payout matter. It's obviously the first, otherwise you wouldnt have had to ask for the tracking number, because you would've already had it from these "previous chats". But that's not the case. Ya ok, you had all the detailed "answers" and threats ready because it was the "2nd or 3rd chat" and they kept telling you the same answers. That makes absolutely no sense.

Yes they could try and put a stop on the *********** or check. What good what that do? That money is long gone. You received the payment 12/1. Your chat notifying them DHL shows it picked up "by another signature" was 12/8 (10 days after 11/28 payout request according to you on chat). So a week passed before they even knew you were going to pull this crap and what choice do they have now to "stop" it? ZERO. It's already cash money in your pocket.

I'm sure that was your plan all along. Make up this BS story to get a second payout from them. So now you get paid twice. If that doesnt work, ********** your original deposits and now you have all your original money plus one w/d (which is what you ended up doing). And if you never won and couldnt req a w/d you would've just charged back your w/d's and broke even. Typical scammer protocol.

Anyone who even remotely believes this guy just needs to look at the first post he ever made here at SBR about 6 weeks ago....but this time against YouWager

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...l#post12099529

Youwager--I requested a payout and they told me my account was suspended at payout time. I was told my ** deposit after being credited to my account was not real.


Did the dog eat your homework too pal?

Has anyone else get their payout from one book stolen from granny next store

AND

Had their account suspended by another book because they accused you of sending a fake or cancelled p2p payout?

All within a few weeks


I didnt think so. Sorry pal, the life of a scammer can be rough sometimes

[Bootman215]

You're so full of sh*t its pathetic. Obviously what's posted here is not the "2nd or 3rd" chat regarding the payout matter. It's obviously the first, otherwise you wouldnt have had to ask for the tracking number, because you would've already had it from these "previous chats". But that's not the case. Ya ok, you had all the detailed "answers" and threats ready because it was the "2nd or 3rd chat" and they kept telling you the same answers. That makes absolutely no sense.

Yes they could try and put a stop on the *********** or check. What good what that do? That money is long gone. You received the payment 12/1. Your chat notifying them DHL shows it picked up "by another signature" was 12/8 (10 days after 11/28 payout request according to you on chat). So a week passed before they even knew you were going to pull this crap and what choice do they have now to "stop" it? ZERO. It's already cash money in your pocket.

I'm sure that was your plan all along. Make up this BS story to get a second payout from them. So now you get paid twice. If that doesnt work, ********** your original deposits and now you have all your original money plus one w/d (which is what you ended up doing). And if you never won and couldnt req a w/d you would've just charged back your w/d's and broke even. Typical scammer protocol.

Anyone who even remotely believes this guy just needs to look at the first post he ever made here at SBR about 6 weeks ago....but this time against YouWager

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...l#post12099529

Youwager--I requested a payout and they told me my account was suspended at payout time. I was told my ** deposit after being credited to my account was not real.


Did the dog eat your homework to pal?

Has anyone else get their payout stolen from granny next store

AND

Had their account suspended because the book mistakenly thought they sent a fake p2p payout?

All within a few weeks


I didnt think so. Sorry pal, the life of a scammer can be rough sometimes

Ahole youwager told me my ** was not confirmed and my account was credited by mistake and they immediately closed my account. Next time do your due dillegence and check with the source Youwager I sure they will tell you the truth. You as ignorant as you sound.

[Bootman215]

Ahole youwager told me my ** was not confirmed and my account was credited by mistake and they immediately closed my account. Next time do your due dillegence and check with the source Youwager I sure they will tell you the truth. You as ignorant as you sound.

You got it down to a science as if you have been there before

[Bootman215]

THIS IS WHAT MR. CARTER FROM BET GUARDIAN JUST EMAILED ME. SURE LOOKS LIKE HE'S TRYING TO COVER HIS ASS NOW.
Our records show that you have an outstanding balance and we have yet to receive this payment because your charged back. The total is $700.00
Please give me a shout for the details on repayment options.


Thank you in advance for your cooperation

Sincerely,

SCOTT CARTER
Customer Development Manager
1-800-274-8313 ext: 2339
Everyday except Tuesday

[KEdge2k]

LOL, that's not backing out you dummy, that's him saying you charged back, you still owe them $700.

[ehp6737]

LOL, that's not backing out you dummy, that's him saying you charged back, you still owe them $700.

LMAO. Exactly. This bootman justs lives in his own little world. Saying whatever he wants regardless of the facts or reality. This thread is beyond a waste of time now. Bootman is obviously from another planet.

[Bootman215]

LMAO. Exactly. This bootman justs lives in his own little world. Saying whatever he wants regardless of the facts or reality. This thread is beyond a waste of time now. Bootman is obviously from another planet.

From your previous comments it looks like there is no smarter or wiser man on this planet. May you diseased gambling life be filled with many 1/2 point loses from this day on.

[Bootman215]

Let's see what the book is made up when I ask for his help ?

----------Original Message----------

From: Bootman215
Date: Dec 19, 2011 1:12:47 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: Bootman215 very important message regarding your outstanding balance
To: scott@wgmg.co.cr

Absolutely I have the tracking number, DHL needs to know what exactly was in the package for their investigation. It would seem to me that if you did everything right and it's on the up and up there needs to perform this investigation should be no problem for you. As soon as my monies are in my hands I will gladly take care of it and will send you a ** for $700. Thanking you in Advance.

On 12/19/11, Scott Carter<scott@wgmg.co.cr> wrote:

Bootman215
You have the tracking number and you said you have already contacted DHL.

When ill I be expecting the $700 you charged back?

On 2011-12-19, 09:27, Bootman215 wrote:
I need the contact phone number for the sender of my DHL package so DHL can contact and verify contacts of lost package. Thx

[FourLengthsClear]

Let's see what the book is made up when I ask for his help ?

----------Original Message----------

From: Bootman215
Date: Dec 19, 2011 1:12:47 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: Bootman215 very important message regarding your outstanding balance
To: scott@wgmg.co.cr

Absolutely I have the tracking number, DHL needs to know what exactly was in the package for their investigation. It would seem to me that if you did everything right and it's on the up and up there needs to perform this investigation should be no problem for you. As soon as my monies are in my hands I will gladly take care of it and will send you a ** for $700. Thanking you in Advance.

On 12/19/11, Scott Carter<scott@wgmg.co.cr> wrote:

Bootman215
You have the tracking number and you said you have already contacted DHL.

When ill I be expecting the $700 you charged back?

On 2011-12-19, 09:27, Bootman215 wrote:
I need the contact phone number for the sender of my DHL package so DHL can contact and verify contacts of lost package. Thx

Go away!

[Bootman215]

Go away!

I predict you will lose the next 9 of of 10 wagers,

[KEdge2k]

Wow, you're even more of a prick than I thought.