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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    I'm not seeing Iowa's slow D keeping up with OU, unless they are a no-show mentally for this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by sandman0713 View Post
    ou loses some games they shouldn't...and they really look bad doing it sometimes...but they are almost always $$$ after a loss under stoops. still don't know if i like this game...but they have been an auto-play for me after a str8 up loss for several years now.


    Iowa's D is M.I.A. this year. And their O hasn't ever been explosive. I wouldn't be surprised to see a score like 34-9 OK.

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    ^how many times has denard beat MSU??

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    I understand the issues with Utah; those were in my thought process as well. Believe me, I know.

    John Hays is not a competent D-1 QB, but, last season against Boise in the MAACO Bowl nonwithstanding, Kyle Whittingham is a master planner when time is on his side.

    Norm Chow is still a great offensive mind -- he's just having to make due with a paucity of talent at the QB position with Wynn going down early in the season.

    Utah's receiving corps. is extremely talented, and go almost 8-deep. So, if outside chance meets a bit of execution in the passing game, Utah can put up some splash plays. They're rooted in a strong offensive and defensive front, though.

    I also believe that the veer concept is just similar enough between the last 10 years of game-planning for Fisher DeBerry and Troy Calhoun's iteration on the triple-option so as to get this defense back up to speed with Tech's philosophy.

    I revere what Paul Johnson does as a coach, and for his demeanor, but until he can get back to that seminal moment of fielding the right QB for his attack such as when he put his trust in Josh Nesbitt or Kaipo back in the West Point days, Tevin Washington will have this team way behind schedule and drive counts.

    Utah's defense is damn-good, and their D-line rotation is robust. I like getting a good return on the moneyline here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by survive View Post
    ^how many times has denard beat MSU??
    0.

    Goat's just trying to stir up shit because that's all he's got here. Can't pick games, makes irrational arguments, horrible assessments of players and teams, etc.

    He's a shit talker. Nothing more.

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    Navy -7
    TCU - 10 1/2
    Boise ST - 14
    Michigan ST +3 1/2
    LSU -1

    GL all

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    Ohio St ML
    Penn St ML
    UCLA ML
    Purdue -2.5
    Florida St -3

    Longshots: Washington +10/stab at ML & Arizona St +14/stab at ML

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    Southern Miss -6

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    Nebraska ML
    Alabama ML (rarely does a team beat the same team twice same season)
    Michigan St Georgia Under
    Mich St +3.5
    Wisky ML and spread ( wisky has the better d, and 3 of the top 4 players offensively, Wilson, Ball, Toon vs James)

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    wiscy/oregon over (wisky's defense is mediocre at best/we all know about oregon's o, wilson/ball will roll ducks d), clemson, penn st, boise st, texas

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    Kansas State +7.5, guranteed letdown for Arky
    West Virginia +3, Clemson never plays two good games in a row
    Fla St -3, Notre Dame can still be manhandled
    Louisville +2.5, NCst has no medium, really bad or really good, I'm banking on bad
    California +3, Texas is not that good this year, plus travel to northwest

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    WISC +6
    W.MICH +2.5
    CIN +2.5
    TEM -6.5
    HOU -5.5

    In that order.

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    boise; baylor; laf; nw; wisky; clemson. i'll be in vegas to make that a parlay @40-1!

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    You guys Oregon is going to roll! That is easy money, they will destroy Wisconsin. They keep it close till about half way through the 3rd qtr and UO pulls away with the 42-21 defeat.

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    Updated list for me....

    Strong leans (no particular order):
    Louisiana-Lafayette +5.5
    Penn State +5.5
    Vanderbilt -2.5
    Iowa State +1.5
    Northwestern +9.5
    Wisconsin +6

    Regular leans:
    Utah State -2.5
    Virginia Tech +2.5
    Ohio State +2
    Virginia +1.5
    Nebraska +2.5
    Wake Forest +7
    Utah +3.5
    BYU -3

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    Iowa +14.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Iowa +14.5
    I don't know what to think about this game. Part of me wants to hammer Iowa because I think Oklahoma will be uninspired and they're horribly banged up, but there's still such a talent gap that if the Sooners actually want to turn it on, they could win this game by 30.

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    Also like the over in the national title game.

    Doubt I'll play a side there though.

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    ohio u, iowa st, lsu

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    UNC+5
    Western Michigan+2.5
    Air Force+3
    Notre Dame+3
    Utah+3.5(Hard not to think this line is a gift)

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    I also took Toledo-Air Force over 70. 80 will be closer to it the way these two teams score and give up points.

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    seen a few Illinois plays here and have to ask WHY? The team is in the toilet and has half a coaching staff getting them ready for a game they aren't interested in playing anyway.

    Really bad choice to go with Illinois

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    South Carolina -2
    W Michigan ML
    Ark. St. -1.5
    UCLA Under 47
    Temple -6.5

    1 extra Utah +3.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Kansas State +7.5, guranteed letdown for Arky
    West Virginia +3, Clemson never plays two good games in a row
    Fla St -3, Notre Dame can still be manhandled
    Louisville +2.5, NCst has no medium, really bad or really good, I'm banking on bad
    California +3, Texas is not that good this year, plus travel to northwest

    guaranteed let down for Arkansas? why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    I'm not really sure why everyone thinks the Badgers will get rolled. They may have trouble with Oregon's team speed, but how will the Ducks handle Wisconsin's physical play? The Badgers are very balanced. I watched Oregon get absolutely shredded by USC at home -- they're far from perfect.
    N.C. as i learned in my 6th grade health class Speed Kills.
    We saw this same situation last year and Oregon prevailed, speed over power.

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    Lsu/Bama under whatever
    Purdue -2.5
    Penn st +6
    West Virginia +3.5
    Okie st/Stanford O74

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacocn View Post
    N.C. as i learned in my 6th grade health class Speed Kills.
    We saw this same situation last year and Oregon prevailed, speed over power.

    Wisconsin will dominate when they have the ball. No way Oregon is able to get Wisconsin off the field that offensive line and Montee Ball will manhandle Oregons undersized defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Wisconsin will dominate when they have the ball. No way Oregon is able to get Wisconsin off the field that offensive line and Montee Ball will manhandle Oregons undersized defense.
    Over 72 may be the play.

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    Wisc/OR is tough to get a handle on.

    Both teams were able to run the score up against pretty weak conferences/schedules. And in their loses both teams allowed some points. Makes the over look good.

    But I'm still scary to jump on the over. Might have to leave this one alone...don't really need the action, just root for the Big10 and enjoy the game I guess.

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    Penn st
    NCSU
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    Penn State
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    Oregon, Temple, Penn St.,
    Bama, Fla international

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Shabadoo View Post
    I understand the issues with Utah; those were in my thought process as well. Believe me, I know. John Hays is not a competent D-1 QB, but, last season against Boise in the MAACO Bowl nonwithstanding, Kyle Whittingham is a master planner when time is on his side. Norm Chow is still a great offensive mind -- he's just having to make due with a paucity of talent at the QB position with Wynn going down early in the season. Utah's receiving corps. is extremely talented, and go almost 8-deep. So, if outside chance meets a bit of execution in the passing game, Utah can put up some splash plays. They're rooted in a strong offensive and defensive front, though. I also believe that the veer concept is just similar enough between the last 10 years of game-planning for Fisher DeBerry and Troy Calhoun's iteration on the triple-option so as to get this defense back up to speed with Tech's philosophy. I revere what Paul Johnson does as a coach, and for his demeanor, but until he can get back to that seminal moment of fielding the right QB for his attack such as when he put his trust in Josh Nesbitt or Kaipo back in the West Point days, Tevin Washington will have this team way behind schedule and drive counts. Utah's defense is damn-good, and their D-line rotation is robust. I like getting a good return on the moneyline here.
    Utah's offense is horrible and there defense is top notch. That is why under 51 is the only option for me in this game. I believe this game will be under 40.

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    Stronger:
    Kansas State +8
    Wisconsin +6
    Houston -5
    Ohio St. +2
    Cincy -2.5

    Regular:
    Ohio +3
    W.Michigan -2.5
    Wake Forest +6.5

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