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    JR007
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    60% Posters

    Does anyone really believe, a 60% win rate is attainable in the NFL

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    Depends on how many bets you're talking about making in a season.

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    My step brother is like 59% in our pool picking every game this year, it is totally doable.

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    I guarantee one poster here will have a" record" of 60% by seasons end

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    I try not to bet every Sunday but I still find myself looking and throwing a couple small plays out.

    This week I had Minnesota -1....fukked

    Teased new England and green bay....fukked

    Well really more like I suck at nfl. I've been rock solid with college this year....nfl not so much.

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    Check tracer tread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR007 View Post
    Does anyone really believe, a 60% win rate is attainable in the NFL
    Statsational and Kroyrunner are both well documented and over 60%

    Sweetjones55 was well known for his NBA 60% hit rate, then he went tout and hits winners like Blaine Gabbert hits receivers
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    Without a doubt - have been doing it for 20 years! 469-312 in 20 years - HOWEVER - this year only 20-19. My "A" games are now 60-16, I've been post them here! Jump on the gravy train next year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder12000 View Post
    Without a doubt - have been doing it for 20 years! 469-312 in 20 years - HOWEVER - this year only 20-19. My "A" games are now 60-16, I've been post them here! Jump on the gravy train next year!

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    Long term it's impossible to hit 60%

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    90% is attainable picking SU.....

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    Absolutely.

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    Over 1,000 or more plays, I highly doubt that anyone will hit at 60% in NFL.

    If it is doable they would be rich beyond their dreams and would not be sharing their 'secrets' with anyone.

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    yes

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    Question for anyone who does actually think that SBR posters are hitting 60%.

    Suppose, I start with a bankroll of $1000 and proceed to hit at 60% over 1000 plays at -110. If I wager 5%* of my bankroll on every play, how much would I have after those 1000 plays? We'll assume that I can get 5% down without having to worry about limts.

    * According to Kelly Criterion 16% of BR is the optimal wager size based on my edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourLengthsClear View Post
    Question for anyone who does actually think that SBR posters are hitting 60%.

    Suppose, I start with a bankroll of $1000 and proceed to hit at 60% over 1000 plays at -110. If I wager 5%* of my bankroll on every play, how much would I have after those 1000 plays? We'll assume that I can get 5% down without having to worry about limits.

    * According to Kelly Criterion 16% of BR is the optimal wager size based on my edge.
    Doing quick math you'll make about $70 in pure profit per every 10 bets you do this for. (Again assuming you win 6 and lose 4 per every 10 bets). Multiply $70 x 100 = roughly $700. Add another $180 on top of that with increasing bankroll amount per wager at 5%

    So you go from $1000 to roughly $1900 total bank roll after 1,000 bets hitting at a 60% success rate and betting about 5% of your bankroll per bet.

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    I bet one or two games a week. only way I've ever made any money at this

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSportsGuy210 View Post
    Doing quick math you'll make about $70 in pure profit per every 10 bets you do this for. (Again assuming you win 6 and lose 4 per every 10 bets). Multiply $70 x 100 = roughly $700. Add another $180 on top of that with increasing bankroll amount per wager at 5%

    So you go from $1000 to roughly $1900 total bank roll after 1,000 bets hitting at a 60% success rate and betting about 5% of your bankroll per bet.
    I think you have calculated based on $50 (5% of initial bankroll) per play
    Risk amount (in $ terms) would increase with bankroll.

    To make it easy, your expected bankroll growth (and thus the increment in wager amount) is 0.617% per wager.
    Last edited by FourLengthsClear; 12-05-11 at 10:21 AM.

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    think the more plays, would be regression to the mean, difficult at best with the variance, and vig, Paco,s around 57% last I looked,pretty good, think that it is doable for say 100 plays ???

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    Not many picks but here ya go

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    Looks like we have all winners here. Sweeeeeet.

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    I think the " no one hits 60 % long term " crap has been drilled into a lot of people's heads for so long that they actually believe it. If you really can't pick 6 out of 10 bets correctly you're not working hard enough at it.

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    Another big winner. Sweeeeeeet.

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    Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba Gooding Jr View Post
    I think the " no one hits 60 % long term " crap has been drilled into a lot of people's heads for so long that they actually believe it. If you really can't pick 6 out of 10 bets correctly you're not working hard enough at it.
    You are working hard enough, I presume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourLengthsClear View Post
    Question for anyone who does actually think that SBR posters are hitting 60%.

    Suppose, I start with a bankroll of $1000 and proceed to hit at 60% over 1000 plays at -110. If I wager 5%* of my bankroll on every play, how much would I have after those 1000 plays? We'll assume that I can get 5% down without having to worry about limts.

    * According to Kelly Criterion 16% of BR is the optimal wager size based on my edge.
    Quote Originally Posted by FourLengthsClear View Post

    I think you have calculated based on $50 (5% of initial bankroll) per play
    Risk amount (in $ terms) would increase with bankroll.

    To make it easy, your expected bankroll growth (and thus the increment in wager amount) is 0.617% per wager.
    Nobody?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourLengthsClear View Post
    Nobody?
    Stop hating sir, what's so hard about going 6 out of 10?

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    $370,200

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoke a bowl View Post
    Stop hating sir, what's so hard about going 6 out of 10?
    Nothing is hard about going 6 out of 10. 600 out 1000 is another question entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourLengthsClear View Post
    Nothing is hard about going 6 out of 10. 600 out 1000 is another question entirely.
    Of course, that was tongue and cheek. I'll just keep grinding my 531(521 on -105 accounts lol) out of 1000 and watch the pennies add up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourLengthsClear View Post

    You are working hard enough, I presume?
    And you're not, I presume ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra77er View Post
    $370,200
    Not too far off.
    It is $470,610.

    Utilising full Kelly (16% of BR) the figure would be USD 125,468,486 albeit you would run into limits long before that, of course. You would reach USD 1 million after 589 plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba Gooding Jr View Post
    And you're not, I presume ?
    Well I can't hit 60% long term so I guess not.

    Note to self: "Must work harder".

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourLengthsClear View Post

    Well I can't hit 60% long term so I guess not.

    Note to self: "Must work harder".
    What's your definition of long term ?, 3 years ?, 5 years ?, the rest of your life ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba Gooding Jr View Post
    What's your definition of long term ?, 3 years ?, 5 years ?, the rest of your life ?
    The rest of your life ideally but in my posts above, I have referred to a sample size of 1000 plays.

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