1. 11-27-11 08:39 PM #36
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    NFL is a team game, what's with this QB stroking homo fetishism? Break down the oline/dline to find the truth about any team.
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  2. 11-27-11 08:57 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    You're a jerkoff Sanchez hater so who cares what you think.......He's not the best, but gimmie a break

    Most road playoff wins in first 2 years in NFL history.....Most 4th quarter comebacks in the NFL since he's been in the league compared to any other QB

    2011: 18 Td/ 11 INT.....3 rushing TD's

    2 AFC Championship Apperances in first 2 years in league

    Get the fukk outta here
    You do realize the Jets only weakness as a team is their QB play...
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  3. 11-27-11 09:01 PM #38
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    Vick number 5 is clearly a joke. I know you like to go against the grain in an attempt to act like you know what your talking about, but he had about 8 unbelievable games last year and has been average since. Dalton 6 also incredibly too high.
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  4. 11-27-11 09:02 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    You do realize the Jets only weakness as a team is their QB play...
    Explain to me how 18 TD/ 11 INT = bottom 3 qb in the league?

    Explain to me how 30th QB in league has most comeback wins in 4th quarter since he's been in the league.....he actually got another one today, including 4 touchdowns.....ice in the veins!!

    Explain to me how just about worst qb in the league has 4 ROAD playoff wins in 2 first seasons.......And he played great in all of them, so don't give me the BS about the rest of the team


    Sanchez's REAL RANKING (Not hater ranking) is somewhere around 15-18......with room for improvement of course

    I'll take Sanchez, who elevates game in 4th quarter and playoffs over many other natural born losers

    Sanchez has always been a winner pal, cant take it away from him
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  5. 11-27-11 09:03 PM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsr View Post
    Vick number 5 is clearly a joke. I know you like to go against the grain in an attempt to act like you know what your talking about, but he had about 8 unbelievable games last year and has been average since. Dalton 6 also incredibly too high.
    Name me 5 QB's (Playing this year, No P.Manning) better than Vick when he is healthy...

    Go
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  6. 11-27-11 09:06 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    Name me 5 QB's (Playing this year, No P.Manning) better than Vick when he is healthy...

    Go
    Rodgers, Brady, brees, big Ben, Eli.

    Vick was probably the best in the league for that stretch last year, but just look at the numbers since then. Not elite.
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  7. 11-27-11 09:07 PM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsr View Post
    Rodgers, Brady, brees, big Ben, Eli.

    Vick was probably the best in the league for that stretch last year, but just look at the numbers since then. Not elite.
    OK, so since my #5 ranking is clearly a joke...

    Now list players 6-10 that are better than Vick...

    Go
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  8. 11-27-11 09:14 PM #43
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    Romo, Rivers, Matt Ryan, schaub, cutler/flacco.
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  9. 11-27-11 09:14 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Explain to me how 18 TD/ 11 INT = bottom 3 qb in the league?

    Explain to me how 30th QB in league has most comeback wins in 4th quarter since he's been in the league.....he actually got another one today, including 4 touchdowns.....ice in the veins!!

    Explain to me how just about worst qb in the league has 4 ROAD playoff wins in 2 first seasons.......And he played great in all of them, so don't give me the BS about the rest of the team


    Sanchez's REAL RANKING (Not hater ranking) is somewhere around 15-18......with room for improvement of course

    I'll take Sanchez, who elevates game in 4th quarter and playoffs over many other natural born losers

    Sanchez has always been a winner pal, cant take it away from him
    Sanchez doesn't elevate SHIT!!!

    The only reason he comes from behind is because he puts them behind the 8-ball in the first place...

    The people around him clean up his mistakes and give him a chance to redeem himself...

    He will NEVER win a Superbowl...

    He plays on the best all around team in football and is the ONLY REASON they have no shot at winning a Superbowl...
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  10. 11-27-11 09:19 PM #45
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    I will agree with you that sanchez is terrible. If they trade for Peyton, game over in the afc. That team is stacked everywhere.
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  11. 11-27-11 09:19 PM #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    Sanchez doesn't elevate SHIT!!!

    The only reason he comes from behind is because he puts them behind the 8-ball in the first place...

    The people around him clean up his mistakes and give him a chance to redeem himself...

    He will NEVER win a Superbowl...

    He plays on the best all around team in football and is the ONLY REASON they have no shot at winning a Superbowl...
    You haven't answered any of my questions

    Lemme put it this way: A QB with a TD/INT ratio of 18/11 is NEVER one of the 3 worst starting qb's in the league, ya jackass.....it's not possible

    You underrate the shit out of him

    Sanchez elevates his play in the playoffs.....please look at his stats, or just rewatch the games

    Real Jets fans know what this team's issues are......Sanchez mediocre, o-line taking a huge step back, offensive coordinator a complete joke, overrated rb's, bad safeties, etc

    SANCHEZ MEDIOCRE, Not bottom 3

    A complete garbage QB takes his team within 1 game of the superbowl in his first 2 seasons, right?
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  12. 11-27-11 09:21 PM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsr View Post
    I will agree with you that sanchez is terrible. If they trade for Peyton, game over in the afc. That team is stacked everywhere.
    Rest of Jets team a little overrated, Sanchez underrated by national fans due to poor play on primetime.......Very good team with a mediocre QB is more line it
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  13. 11-27-11 10:45 PM #48
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    You wouldn't call Flacco one of the lesser starters in the league if you paid close attention to the Ravens the past dozen years.
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  14. 01-15-12 02:22 PM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by poochiecollins View Post
    You wouldn't call Flacco one of the lesser starters in the league if you paid close attention to the Ravens the past dozen years.
    still think this guy is a solid NFL QB?

    Living up to his #23 ranking...
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  15. 01-15-12 05:38 PM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    still think this guy is a solid NFL QB? Living up to his #23 ranking...
    With a 97 quarterback rating against one of the NFL's best defenses? Oops? I would bet there aren't 22 quarterbacks who'd have put up better numbers for the Ravens than him.
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  16. 01-15-12 06:14 PM #51
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    Still no respect for Eli, what an insult to put Dalton and Romo ahead
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  17. 01-15-12 06:20 PM #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    Still no respect for Eli, what an insult to put Dalton and Romo ahead
    Exactly this is a sh*t thread to begin with. After top 4 it's laughable.
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  18. 01-15-12 06:25 PM #53
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    brady
    brees
    manning
    rodgers (guy is way overrated imo)
    rivers
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  19. 01-15-12 06:25 PM #54
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    Just to back it up, i like my chances when betting Eli in games that really mean something
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  20. 01-15-12 06:32 PM #55
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    This weekend settled this debate.

    It's Tom Brady's world.

    The rest of the NFL QBs are just living in it.
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  21. 01-15-12 06:36 PM #56
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    Fold buried again. Rodgers not in the same league as Brady and brees
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  22. 01-15-12 06:45 PM #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsr View Post
    Fold buried again. Rodgers not in the same league as Brady and brees


    There isn't a QB alive that would win 15 games with this team...

    Below average Coaching, Defense, Offensive Line, Running Backs... Etc,Etc...

    The Giants Defensive Line and Hakeem Nicks (who some think Cruz is better than ) won this game...
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  23. 01-15-12 06:46 PM #58
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    The offense is stacked. Winning 15 games means nothing when you play like garbage in the first playoff game. Back down to #3. He had a good run.
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  24. 01-15-12 06:47 PM #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinBlank View Post
    This weekend settled this debate.

    It's Tom Brady's world.

    The rest of the NFL QBs are just living in it.
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  25. 01-15-12 10:52 PM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post


    There isn't a QB alive that would win 15 games with this team...

    Below average Coaching, Defense, Offensive Line, Running Backs... Etc,Etc...

    The Giants Defensive Line and Hakeem Nicks (who some think Cruz is better than ) won this game...
    Come on II.

    Listen, I can't stand Brady, I really can't, and I certainly hope/pray/wish that New England loses next weekend.

    But Brady is the best QB in the league. He took a 5'9 white guy, and turned him into an All-Pro WR. Wes Welker playing for any other QB is, well----- no one. Welker was cut by San Diego, then caught 86 balls in 3 years in Miami. He comes to New England, and he is averaging 110 catches a year, and had 2 years over 120 catches.

    That's Brady.

    Rodgers is a very good NFL QB. But Brady is still in another class.

    Maybe Rodgers gets there, but he isn't there right now. And I am pretty certain, if Brady had Donald Driver, Jennings, Jordy Nelson---he too would win 15 games.
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  26. 01-15-12 11:46 PM #61
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    Flacco is very bad QB
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  27. 01-15-12 11:50 PM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    Just to back it up, i like my chances when betting Eli in games that really mean something
    THIS
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  28. 01-16-12 12:16 AM #63
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    There is no way Rivers, Matt Ryan, Romo or Vick are better than Eli Manning. Outside of Peyton, Brees, Brady and Rodgers Eli is #5.
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  29. 01-16-12 12:29 AM #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSportsGuy210 View Post
    There is no way Rivers, Matt Ryan, Romo or Vick are better than Eli Manning. Outside of Peyton, Brees, Brady and Rodgers Eli is #5.
    You're a fukkin homer Pal...

    Someone has to say it...

    What did Eli do today?

    -Long Touchdown to Nicks... Play made by Nicks and retarded safety
    -Hail Marry to Nicks
    -4 yard TD to Manningham after defensive turnover taken to the 4

    Manning is a solid QB...

    But not elite...

    Case Closed
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  30. 01-16-12 12:37 AM #65
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    Kolb is good too fellas
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  31. 01-16-12 12:38 AM #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    You're a fukkin homer Pal...

    Someone has to say it...

    What did Eli do today?

    -Long Touchdown to Nicks... Play made by Nicks and retarded safety
    -Hail Marry to Nicks
    -4 yard TD to Manningham after defensive turnover taken to the 4

    Manning is a solid QB...

    But not elite...

    Case Closed
    Shut up dude you don't know anything.
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  32. 01-16-12 12:41 AM #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSportsGuy210 View Post
    Shut up dude you don't know anything.
    You switch the Falcons and Giants defenses (and coaches) and it's Matt Ryan we are praising tonight...

    I understand you're a Giants fan, I'm just telling you... I don't have a favorite team...

    I just tell it like I see it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    You switch the Falcons and Giants defenses (and coaches) and it's Matt Ryan we are praising tonight...

    I understand you're a Giants fan, I'm just telling you... I don't have a favorite team...

    I just tell it like I see it...

    Matt Ryan can't make the throws or run the patterns or go through his progressive reads like Eli Manning does. If Matt Ryan was running this Giants offense he wouldn't know what hit him. He would be over loaded with information they'd have to "dumb it down" for him and next thing you know they are average again.
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  34. 01-16-12 12:53 AM #69
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    I'm not saying Eli sucks, he is one of the smartest and best leaders of all the QB's...

    But he still make a bunch of bad throws and isn't mobile...
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  35. 01-16-12 01:34 AM #70
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    I think Big Ben is too high. He always has one of the lowest scoring offenses in the NFL. If he had the Packers defense, they would have been a sub 500 team this year.
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