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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    cincinnati loses 2 in a row, including to a team they're fighting for a playoff spot, and their odds of making the playoffs go up
    Crazy eh?

    I guess that's when happens when everyone losses. Chargers/Jets/Bills/Titans/etc.

    Now I'll be sweating this bet out.

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    I think Jets have value now. Good Schedule. Everyone low on them.

    +300 on basically a 50/50 play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr KLC View Post
    Leinhart has a lot better team around him that when he was playing for Dennis Green. You can book this right now. Houston will be at least 4-2 for the rest of the season.
    um why does that matter? they probably only need to go 1-5 to make the playoffs especially if the one win is at home against tennessee.

    never a good sign when you have chase clement and kellen clemens working out

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    bengals yes is now -101

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    Raiders not make the playoffs in that weak division? Who do you think will make it, Broncos with tebow . San Diego with shitty Rivers :O KC with no qb, or rb

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Crazy eh?

    I guess that's when happens when everyone losses. Chargers/Jets/Bills/Titans/etc.

    Now I'll be sweating this bet out.
    i'll still take it as a push if you want, otherwise i'm fine with letting it ride.

    everyone else losing sure helped, only tough games left are pitt and balt again. i didn't think 10-6 would be good enough but now it almost certainly will be.

    might come down to the final game, baltimore at cincinnati. that would be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    bengals yes is now -101
    bengals before the last 2 losses were -155 yes at bodog

    absolutely amazing what has happened in the afc

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    um why does that matter? they probably only need to go 1-5 to make the playoffs especially if the one win is at home against tennessee.

    never a good sign when you have chase clement and kellen clemens working out
    I'm just bringing up the point that Leinhart is going to do better than a lot of the expectations in this thread. This situation, to a lesser degree, reminds me of when the 49er's saved Steve Young from Tampa Bay. Young was in a lousy situation, and would never be looked at as he is now if he didn't go to a better system and organization. You can't find too many more people than Kubiak, that can help a quarterback. When he was offensive coordinator at Denver during their 13-0 start, they won six of those games with Bubby Brister under center. Kubiak might not be a great head coach, but he knows quarterbacks, and I think Leinhart will be in demand after this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    i'll still take it as a push if you want, otherwise i'm fine with letting it ride.

    everyone else losing sure helped, only tough games left are pitt and balt again. i didn't think 10-6 would be good enough but now it almost certainly will be.

    might come down to the final game, baltimore at cincinnati. that would be fun.
    Still playing. Bengals lose 3 more games. Should be fun at the end.

    I have a bunch of points now so don't mind if I lose.

    10-6 gets in easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    I think Jets have value now. Good Schedule. Everyone low on them.

    +300 on basically a 50/50 play.
    wow really? they would have to win at least 3 of these 4 and win the other 2 to have a chance at 10-6 and i think pretty much everyone has the tiebreaker over the jets?
    buffalo
    at washington
    at phil
    nygiants

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    bengals before the last 2 losses were -155 yes at bodog

    absolutely amazing what has happened in the afc
    bengals were +110 just 30 minutes ago at pinny.

    i think the giants not to make it at -240 is worth a play

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    wow really? they would have to win at least 3 of these 4 and win the other 2 to have a chance at 10-6 and i think pretty much everyone has the tiebreaker over the jets?
    buffalo
    at washington
    at phil
    nygiants
    it's just going to be them and the bengals.

    have them going 9-7

    probably lose a tie-breaker, not sure but I've been playing with the espn nfl playoff machine and Jets keep coming up in a lot of realistic predictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    bengals were +110 just 30 minutes ago at pinny.

    i think the giants not to make it at -240 is worth a play
    Giants were a great no play after the Patriots game. still ok now...

    No way they could go thru the gauntlet of games they have with a good record. Plus dallas has it easy.

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    thinking of betting dallas to win the nfc at +1050.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    bengals were +110 just 30 minutes ago at pinny.

    i think the giants not to make it at -240 is worth a play
    oops sorry i screwed up i meant bengals were -150 on the NO and +125 on the yes.

    so 2 weeks ago i had +125 on the yes, they lose 2 games to teams they're fighting for the playoffs and now you have to lay money -101 on the yes.

    really strange

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    thinking of betting dallas to win the nfc at +1050.
    i think you're better off waiting until the playoffs and then just rolling money line bets all the way.

    i'm guessing if they get in it's 3 road games, maybe a pick em and then +150 and then +300 49ers/packers.

    so let's say $100 pk = 200 + 1.50 bet = 500 + 3.00 bet = $2000

    then you have no risk of missing the playoffs and probably get paid more

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    Updated odds...pinny is sharp...

    Team to Make Playoffs

    Thu 11/24Will the Raiders make the playoffs?
    05:20 PM6007 Yes-159

    6008 No+141
    Thu 11/24Will the Bengals make the playoffs?
    05:20 PM6011 Yes+110

    6012 No-124
    Thu 11/24Will the Jets make the playoffs?
    05:20 PM6015 Yes+290

    6016 No-340
    Thu 11/24Will the Broncos make the playoffs?
    05:20 PM6017 Yes+310

    6018 No-365
    Thu 11/24Will the Titans make the playoffs?
    05:20 PM6019 Yes+411

    6020 No-500
    Thu 11/24Will the Chargers make the playoffs?
    05:20 PM6021 Yes+306

    6022 No-360
    Thu 11/24Will the Giants make the playoffs?
    09:30 AM6025 Yes+201

    6026 No-230
    Thu 11/24Will the Bears make the playoffs?
    09:30 AM6029 Yes-265

    6030 No+230
    Thu 11/24Will the Lions make the playoffs?
    09:30 AM6031 Yes-155

    6032 No+137
    Thu 11/24Will the Cowboys make the playoffs?
    09:30 AM6033 Yes-210

    6034 No+184
    Thu 11/24Will the Falcons make the playoffs?
    09:30 AM6035 Yes-135

    6036 No+120
    Bears still -265 to make it. Of course they were around -330 before the SD win/Cutler injury. If Cutler hadn't been injured, I suppose it'd be like -400.

    Looks like the Giants are in poor shape. Let's essentially give the divisions to GB, SF, NO. Looking at Giants (+210)/Cowboys (-210)/Bears(-265)/Lions(-155)/Falcons(-135)....we know 3/5 are going to make it. Except though, I guess the Eagles must be given some chance. Otherwise, NYG+210/DAL-210 would be a freeroll at a wildcard. Odds seem quite low that the wildcard will come from East. Basically, it's Bears/Lions/Falcons in wildcard fight. It gets really interesting too since Bears beat Falcons, Falcons beat Lions and Bears/Lions split. If they 3-way tie, going to have to dig deep into tiebreaker rules and it would benefit ATL because you first eliminate one of the divisional teams. ATL would need Chi eliminated that way. Could be interesting. So many variables at this point.

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    http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

    Nice tool for possibilities and breaks down all the tie-breakers for you automatically.

    LOL if you click on Defensive ranking....

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    Wow, these lines are getting hit hard and fast

    Cowboys now -270

    Bears down to -230

    Oakland -186

    Jets down to +274

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    Falcons +`127. Only a game behind Saints and have easy schedule. They will at least go 4-2 to finish 10-6 and could easily go 11-5.

    Vikings without Peterson
    @ Texans without Schaub
    @ Carolina (I could see them losing this game)
    Jacksonville at home
    Saints @ NO (always a coin flip on MNF)
    Tampa in ATL

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhardfister View Post
    Falcons +`127. Only a game behind Saints and have easy schedule. They will at least go 4-2 to finish 10-6 and could easily go 11-5.

    Vikings without Peterson
    @ Texans without Schaub
    @ Carolina (I could see them losing this game)
    Jacksonville at home
    Saints @ NO (always a coin flip on MNF)
    Tampa in ATL
    You think Atlanta going into New Orleans is a coinflip? More like 6-7 point dogs. Schaub or not, they'll also be a dog in Houston. 10-6 might not be enough. Lost to Bears, but beat Lions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post
    it's just going to be them and the bengals. have them going 9-7 probably lose a tie-breaker, not sure but I've been playing with the espn nfl playoff machine and Jets keep coming up in a lot of realistic predictions.
    Is Sanchez still their QB in your simulations? Guy is terrible.

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    Single #228316993 (Placed by Web)Football - Futures (Game) Moneyline
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    (1151) Dallas Cowboys +260 Fri@10:00a
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    Not sure why smiley's came up^^ made all those bets 3-4 weeks ago. Dallas has tremendous talent and I would love to see them face the packers in the playoffs.

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    Texans will easily make the playoffs.

    Leinart was never as bad as people made him out to be in Arizona. People are biased because they wanted to see him fail since day 1.

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    $1000 on cowboys futures bets yet you can't throw $200 to be a pro

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper View Post
    Single #228316993 (Placed by Web)Football - Futures (Game) Moneyline
    Odds to win the 2011/12 NFC East Division
    All wagers have action.
    (1151) Dallas Cowboys +260 Fri@10:00a
    Competitor1152) New York Giants
    Risk US$ 384.62 to win US$ 1000.01

    Single #228273165 (Placed by Web)Football - Futures (Game) Moneyline
    Odds to win the 2011/12 NFC East Division
    All wagers have action.
    (1151) Dallas Cowboys +275 Fri@10:00a
    Competitor1152) New York Giants
    Risk US$ 363.64 to win US$ 1000.01

    Single #228273192 (Placed by Web)Football - Futures (Game) Moneyline
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    (1125) Dallas Cowboys 20/1 Fri@10:00a
    Competitor1121) Arizona Cardinals
    Risk US$ 100.00 to win US$ 2000.00

    Single #227440277 (Placed by Web)Football - Futures (Game) Moneyline
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    Giants will lose on sunday, but then Bradshaw will probably be back to sweep the Cowboys

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    Jets down to +220 from +300

    they know, they know

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    $1000 on cowboys futures bets yet you can't throw $200 to be a pro
    who gives a fuk about being a pro. why do you want to be a pro? so you can collect 6 more gold coins per day?

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