[SBR_John]

Non Pros can play in most areas of contests, sportsbook, casino, poker, racebook, ect. They can win an unlimited number of points. But when a non Pro is approved for an upgrade to an SBR Pro his balance will be reset to the maximum of 25,000 points if he is above that number.

Non Pros who plan on turning Pro in the future should keep this rule in mind when placing high payout bets in the sportsbook and racebook. For example you are currently allowed to place a 10 point 15 team parlay in the sportsbook. If you place that wager and win you will win 150,000 points. But when you go Pro your balance will be rest to 25,000 points because that is the max allowed. In the above example it would be better to bet 1 point instead of 10. Your payout on a 1 point bet would be 15,000 points. After that score you could go Pro and keep all 15,000 points.

[blackbeSSt]

we can play a 15 team parlay? i thought the max was 10

[nosniboR11]

smart

[Glitch]

we can play a 15 team parlay? i thought the max was 10

max is 10 on freeplays.

[blackbeSSt]

max is 10 on freeplays.

it wouldn't even allow me the option past 10 teams

You have exceed the Max number of spread lines.
Your current limit is 10.

[playersonly69]

I thought that the minimum bet was $5?



But this rule is GREAT! I would have made the limit 5,000 points though. 25,000 points is too high


No reason have the NONPROS just taking shots at SBR and then cashing out when they do win big

[robmpink]

Hope that guy lucky chuck became pro before this. Maybe I missed the date this became effective. If you didn't give fairwarning to those possibly affected that isn't very nice.

[ShamsWoof10]

I'm in no hurry to re-new because it seems like it's better to be a non pro unless you don't have many points... There would be no advantage in turning pro if you hit for 150K points...

[yisman]

I'm in no hurry to re-new because it seems like it's better to be a non pro unless you don't have many points... There would be no advantage in turning pro if you hit for 150K points...

What would you do with 150K points as a non-pro?

[FuzzyDunlop]

What would you do with 150K points as a non-pro?

Buy t-shirts for those poor women at the strip club that can't afford clothes.

[nosniboR11]

actually john I think if your non pro and take a shot , then there 25k still should have to be a freeplay in the sportsbook

[Roxxyfish]

poor LUCKYCHUCK , didnt he won 70K points ??

[moses millsap]

poor LUCKYCHUCK , didnt he won 70K points ??

Yeah, shouldn't you guys give posters who have over the 25k amount a warning to become pro within 24-48hrs or something. Doesn't seem fair to just have them lose all points over the 25k amount.

[Louisvillekid1]

Yeah, shouldn't you guys give posters who have over the 25k amount a warning to become pro within 24-48hrs or something. Doesn't seem fair to just have them lose all points over the 25k amount.

i agree

[SBR_John]

The 15 team parlay is now working. Sorry I did not know we had capped it at 10. I was also off on the minimum stake, its 5 points not 1.

WagerType PARLAY (15 TEAMS) Risking 5 SBR To Win 63968.85 SBR

[playersonly69]

VERY FEW if any posters who are NONPRO have over 10,000 points I dont believe.



As I said earlier, they should limit NONPROS to just 5000 points instead of 25000

[dfberger23]

SBR going bankrupt, Walker taking precautions.

[AlwaysDrawing]

Watch for SBR Point inflation so 25k points is worth two pizzas.

[playersonly69]

I seriously doubt that this will really matter to anyone. I would like to see a list of NONPROS who even have over 5000 points. The list CANNOT be longer than 10 posters.

[playersonly69]

Watch for SBR Point inflation so 25k points is worth two pizzas.

Absolutely there will be a big inflation of the points system soon. How about just give points out at all to NONPROS? I mean they cant do anything with their points anyway

[EmpireMaker]

poor LUCKYCHUCK , didnt he won 70K points ??

He still has 68,000 points and hasn't turned pro

[ttrace35]

How many points for ipad

[EmpireMaker]

This can also be called the Lucky(but not so smart)Chuck rule. Why he didn't turn pro yet is a mystery.

[shari91]

SBR going bankrupt, Walker taking precautions.

I'm just guessing but I think it has more to do with the fact that posters have bringing up the issue for ages that nonPros could basically blow their points on longshot parlays each day hoping to eventually hit one because their points weren't really important to them. If they hit, great... they'd finally turn Pro with their 80k points or whatever. If not, no harm done since they can't use their points for much anyway. Just keep trying. Whereas the majority of Pros do value our points so we're a bit more cautious with what we do because they're worth something to us.

I think 25k is more than fair. That's 3 iPads or whatever. Most of us will never have a balance that large and we get double the points they do every day, trivia, etc... That's a hell of a lot of points to be able to transfer over considering the minute the go Pro, they can cash out.

[ZetaPsi808]

How many points for ipad

8775

http://store.sportsbookreview.com/products/277-iPad-2-Wifi-

[ttrace35]

8775

http://store.sportsbookreview.com/products/277-iPad-2-Wifi-

I should have been betting points all season

[BGS 9.5]

I thought that the minimum bet was $5?



But this rule is GREAT! I would have made the limit 5,000 points though. 25,000 points is too high


No reason have the NONPROS just taking shots at SBR and then cashing out when they do win big

I have noticed you taking shots at non-pros before fatty. You don't work for SBR, and your opinion means nothing. STFU and mind your own business.

[opie1988]

Nice work here, Johnny.

Any progress on the rule to allow all SBR Pro's the right to have sex with all Non-Pro's wives and/or girlfriends??

I knew this has been discussed for awhile...

[playersonly69]

He still has 68,000 points and hasn't turned pro

What a dumbass! Why he didnt turn the DAY AFTER he hit is the mystery

[yisman]

Buy t-shirts for those poor women at the strip club that can't afford clothes.

that would be a great prank.

Walk into strip clubs and go up to the women and:

"Hi, it looks like you can't even afford a shirt, so I went and got you this barreled in t-shirt."

[Wulfman14]

lucky chuck

[mrmarket]

I've been at SBR close to 2 years now and have enjoyed my time here. It's a great source of entertainment, occasional place for advantage strategy and most importantly an innovative reward system for sports bettors. That being said there has been changes of late that are detrimental to SBR PROS.The economy is bad and it's been affecting the sportsbooks which in turns hurts the forums who feed clients to them. I don't begrudge SBR for making the changes. I don't think it's in any persons interest to see SBR lose money or go out of business altogether.

That being said if changes have to be made to the points system they should not be primarily put on the backs of the SBR PROS.

1)There is absolutely no reason to give NON PROS a 25,000 point cap on points earnings that they can transfer if they become SBR PROS afterwards. Your nose is still open to shot takers. In fact there is no reason at all to offer them anything besides what your breakeven rate as a points equivalent is for signing up someone to be a SBR PRO. You have no competition as far as another reward system goes. 4k points (or whatever your breakeven rate is) per year is enough for non pros to purchase sportsbook cash at various books or branded merchandise via the store. You will see no drop offs in affiliate signups or pro signups/renewals. In fact you will weed out a lot of the people who are net losers for you. You will also cut off scammers because the amount they can transfer is now capped.

The fact is people love free stuff and will continue visiting here consistently. Why should SBR pros share the variance of these people and subsequent points inflation? We posted up because we support SBR why do we have to incur the negative effects (points inflation) without having any upside because of them?

2) There needs to be a more open communication with SBR in regards to changes. Please create an Announcement subforum where you post changes to the program/the forum whatever. All the threads that matter get buried into oblivion eventually and your mods have to deal with people who didn't see the change asking what happened. People waste their time posting the same thing over and over and still have to be dealt with by mods. Enough.

[sportsfanatic]

He still has 68,000 points and hasn't turned pro

wow. that's like 3400 euros. i can't believe he hasn't turned pro yet.

[SBR_John]

mrmarket,
The points program has evolved from its humble beginnings. As you noted there have been some changes. We are trying to get the program solidified so there are not any material changes down the road.

This rule is consistent with the company limiting its exposure while balancing that with a program that's fun and rewarding.

Several have speculated that SBR will inflate or devalue the points to compensate for freeloaders. I can assure all Pros and everyone else that is not the plan. We announced last year that there would only be two yearly price increases. However, we did not raise prices during the semi annual window this year and expect only a modest increase at the start of next year. We are not going to devalue the points, period. Instead we are closing loop holes, attacking fraud and limiting our exposure to non Pros.

Thanks for the post.

[secretstash]

dont u think its more fair to give these people a 30 day period before the change.. for instance the guy with 68k pts is now virtually Fd.. even though i think he is slightly a moron for not becoming a pro anyway


i do not think its fair to make it effective immediately.. just an opinion..


-stash