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    Questions for republicans

    Im not democrat or republican

    What has voting republican ever done for stimulating the economy, creating jobs, improving health care, the american dream, or to help the poor or homeless.
    Not everyone that is homeless or poor deserves it. It's no longer an even playing ground.
    Can anyone answer without using the word democrat , liberal or obama?

    How can you blame anyone for voting for obama? It's going to take longer than 4 years to fix what george bush and others ****** up. All i see from people is greed and all out for themselves when its time to start helping other people , not matter who and what they are. The poor, low class, middle class is what stimulates the economy, not the rich. The rich just want to get richer and to take away from others. Just make it an even playing field. If your middle class for example and you work hard and do everything right, you shouldn't get screwed.

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    what has voting for a democrat done. thought the slogan was "Change". looks like sos to me.

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    read above, answer without using the word democrat

    I can agree with that, ,but still what has any republican done. clinton blows the last 2 presidents away. I might have to reelect obama and hope things are force fixed

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    The problem with your idea is that you can't force people to help others. It sounds good but is completely impractical in the real world.

    You say the rich only want to get richer... isn't that what everyone wants? To get richer? Why do you fault them for this attitude?

    How do you propose we "make it an even playing field"? Not everyone is equal in their abilities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnnh12 View Post

    The problem with your idea is that you can't force people to help others. It sounds good but is completely impractical in the real world.

    You say the rich only want to get richer... isn't that what everyone wants? To get richer? Why do you fault them for this attitude?

    How do you propose we "make it an even playing field"? Not everyone is equal in their abilities...

    Liberals/Democrats/Socialists live in a dream world, a fantasy land, and they enjoy controlling other people lives.
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    slimslow, take this dumb uneducated shit to the proper place ... http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/politics-economics/

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    fix what? obama has just continued on most of bush's policies, i.e. fighting wars with zero gain, in fact he is expanding the war front

    maybe if he kept at least a few of his campaign promises (outside of letting gays in military) people would not be pissed off
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.F.Kasooff View Post
    Liberals/Democrats/Socialists live in a dream world, a fantasy land, and they enjoy controlling other people lives.
    patriot act.


    Reagen=USA into a debtor nation.

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    People Create Jobs...

    Not the government...

    And yes, you are a democrat... because you think you are "owed" something...

    You have 3 people to blame, yourself, your mom, and your dad...Not the evil "republicans"

    Quit making excuses and do something with your life if you're not happy...

    100 years ago they would let your fat ass rot, now liberals tell me that I have to be nice to you...

    Fukk them and fukk you...
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    Yeh but the rich , they want it all, poor and low and middle class just want a little more and asking for way less

    It's just not right if lets say, ill use wv gambler for example

    If his kid catches cancer, hell he might have to sell his house, get another job and sell everything he owns just to keep his kid alive and its just not fair. if anyone thinks o well, just a part of life, then you are sick.

    We need to stop companies from leaving the united states and bring jobs back and the money made from those new jobs will stimulate the economy and help the mid class and rich because they will be the ones bringing in the jobs, etc.

    There is a difference between people coming here from england or wherever to build this country in the early 1900s vs someone from mexico wanting to come here now and get handouts

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    I'm not going to argue republican vs democrat as I think both parties are equally to blame for messing up this country. Until both sides start putting the country first and party second, we're all screwed.

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    wtf Im not saying im owed anything, didnt think anyone could answer without using the word liberal, obama or democrat

    As of right now im voting for romney actually. Id prefer a 3rd party candidate and the media to give this guy a chance.

    this post has nothing to do with me. I want other lives to be better. I'm not out for me, id rather help others

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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    People Create Jobs...

    Not the government...

    And yes, you are a democrat... because you think you are "owed" something...

    You have 3 people to blame, yourself, your mom, and your dad...Not the evil "republicans"

    Quit making excuses and do something with your life if you're not happy...

    100 years ago they would let your fat ass rot, now liberals tell me that I have to be nice to you...

    Fukk them and fukk you...
    Government does'nt create jobs?? Well fukk me, the roads you drive in were paid by McDonalds, Train tracks by Sears, police officers/ firefighters/teachers paid by Microsoft.

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    poor people can't create jobs moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.F.Kasooff View Post
    I don't blame him...scared brainwashed hicks would want to kill him for not extending it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    Yeh but the rich , they want it all, poor and low and middle class just want a little more and asking for way less

    It's just not right if lets say, ill use wv gambler for example

    If his kid catches cancer, hell he might have to sell his house, get another job and sell everything he owns just to keep his kid alive and its just not fair. if anyone thinks o well, just a part of life, then you are sick.

    We need to stop companies from leaving the united states and bring jobs back and the money made from those new jobs will stimulate the economy and help the mid class and rich because they will be the ones bringing in the jobs, etc.

    There is a difference between people coming here from england or wherever to build this country in the early 1900s vs someone from mexico wanting to come here now and get handouts
    How do you propose we stop companies from leaving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    read above, answer without using the word democrat

    I can agree with that, ,but still what has any republican done. clinton blows the last 2 presidents away. I might have to reelect obama and hope things are force fixed
    Clinton was a piece of crap president that got highjacked by the repubs that led to unfair trading and deregulation, that helped to cause the situation were in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    Yeh but the rich , they want it all, poor and low and middle class just want a little more and asking for way less

    It's just not right if lets say, ill use wv gambler for example

    If his kid catches cancer, hell he might have to sell his house, get another job and sell everything he owns just to keep his kid alive and its just not fair. if anyone thinks o well, just a part of life, then you are sick.

    We need to stop companies from leaving the united states and bring jobs back and the money made from those new jobs will stimulate the economy and help the mid class and rich because they will be the ones bringing in the jobs, etc.

    There is a difference between people coming here from england or wherever to build this country in the early 1900s vs someone from mexico wanting to come here now and get handouts
    You should stop thinking, because you're just not good at it.

    People like you are why this country is in such decline. If you don't make enough money to be happy, work smarter and harder. That's what the "rich" do, and that's why they are rich. A very tiny minority of rich people are rich from inheritance. They worked smart and hard and made a ton of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Government does'nt create jobs?? Well fukk me, the roads you drive in were paid by McDonalds, Train tracks by Sears, police officers/ firefighters/teachers paid by Microsoft.
    The government has never been efficient with jobs. Increased government spending is rarely the answer, as history proves it doesnt really help. See the New Deal to get us out of the Depression (and failing) as the biggest example

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    poor people can't create jobs moron.
    Of course they can. Find something people need and will pay for. Then do it. Mow lawns, wash cars, whatever. That will be a job you are creating for yourself. People are just too lazy, and that's why they are poor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post

    I don't blame him...scared brainwashed hicks would want to kill him for not extending it.

    Translation: PFK got me, I have no answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    poor people can't create jobs moron.
    The poor have the most babies, do you think this is good or bad for society????

    Let me see, I can't even support myself... but I'm gonna have a child

    Mice have tons of babies and barely take care of them, most of them end up killed by snakes and hawks in the wild,... sound familiar??

    You're poor for a fukkin reason....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnnh12 View Post
    The government has never been efficient with jobs. Increased government spending is rarely the answer, as history proves it doesnt really help. See the New Deal to get us out of the Depression (and failing) as the biggest example
    You can say whatever you want about the new deal, but the regulations FDR put in place made us into a prosperous fair nation, until Pos Reagen came in and turned us into a debtor nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.F.Kasooff View Post
    Translation: PFK got me, I have no answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    You can say whatever you want about the new deal, but the regulations FDR put in place made us into a prosperous fair nation, until Pos Reagen came in and turned us into a debtor nation.
    Uhh... the New Deal is basically what first put us into debt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnnh12 View Post
    Uhh... the New Deal is basically what first put us into debt...
    Well you need to check that, we were a creditors nation until Reagan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    The poor, low class, middle class is what stimulates the economy, not the rich.
    GTFO tt. I think you must have been hitting a tennis ball against the wall too hard and it came back and beaned you in the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Well you need to check that, we were a creditors nation until Reagan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post

    You can say whatever you want about the new deal, but the regulations FDR put in place made us into a prosperous fair nation, until Pos Reagen came in and turned us into a debtor nation.
    One of the most ignorant things I've read on this board. The best thing FDR did for the prosperity of this nation was dying. We were a prosperous nation, the Land of Opportunity, and the place where the middle class was created before an income tax, social programs, and economic planning came into existence.

    I know you and the rest of the liberals/progressives here won't like to hear this, but the middle class was created by virtually unrestrained greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    The poor have the most babies, do you think this is good or bad for society????

    Let me see, I can't even support myself... but I'm gonna have a child

    Mice have tons of babies and barely take care of them, most of them end up killed by snakes and hawks in the wild,... sound familiar??

    You're poor for a fukkin reason....
    poor+ below average I.Q , ultra religious brain washed, you are 100% right fold. Uneducated people are dangerous. they strain our economy. This nation has a bunch of pussy's wah wah..i want my entitlements.. I deserve a good job..wah wah.. GENERATION Pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    wtf Im not saying im owed anything, didnt think anyone could answer without using the word liberal, obama or democrat

    this post has nothing to do with me. I want other lives to be better. I'm not out for me, id rather help others
    I will avoid your buzzwords.

    I will question your altruistic statement as being something less than accurate. America works because..."life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". If your idea is to help others without accumulating the means to do so, good luck. (Side note: we are far and away the most charitable nation in the world)

    Governments cannot create jobs. they do create the atmosphere in which job growth is possible. when you see that the government owns millions of acres of land throughout the U.S. you have to think in dollars. that is trillions of dollars removed from the private sector.

    i feel like we should start at the beginning for you.

    the private sector creates jobs because individuals use their own funds. they got these funds through hard work, other investments, being educated or talented enough to supply a service or product that free Americans decided was worth compensation. people create and accumulate wealth.

    governments produce nothing. any funds the government owns have been stolen from the private sector and the paychecks of hard working Americans. do you see and understand difference?

    you don't find it ironic that you posted a thread attacking republicans but forbid the use of the term democrat.

    here is one for you.

    compare some states.

    michigan

    texas

    which party holds power?

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    Im not democrat or republican
    TTWarrior, you're a die-hard democrat but are too ashamed to admit it and I can't blame you for that. Regardless of what you say, we both know you will vote for Obama in 2012.

    Both political parties have their flaws and the vast majority of people who vote straight along party lines do so due to their strong opposition to the other party. Ask any liberal democrat what they think of republicans and what conservatives think of democrats? Therefore, wanting an answer about why anyone would vote republican and then saying you can't use the terms Obama, liberal or democrat makes your question pointless.

    King Mayan, were you even alive during the Carter administration? You spout B.S. about Reagan when you have absolutely no idea how bad a hand he inherited from Carter and a congress controlled by democrats. Unlike your hero Obama, Reagan fixed the mess he inherited instead of making it worse as our current president has done.

    Reagan won 49 out of 50 states when he ran for re-election and your God Obama is an underdog to win re-election. All of our country's greatest presidents share a similar story as they all took the reins of the U.S. during terrible times and turned our country around. Obama could have wound up in the history books as the greatest president of all time but he will go down as one of the worst (though he has a long ways to go to catch FDR who was by far and away the WORST president in the history of the country).
    The best thing FDR did for the prosperity of this nation was dying.
    100% correct.

    IIfold/Statnerds/rsnnh, great posts from all of you.

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