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    Boxing Champ
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    Sports Insights Premium Pro Membrship???

    Does anyone have this software??? It costs $200 a month
    But it breaks down all the info on most books, betting %
    steam moves, reverse line movements, injuries, instant news,
    real time line movements and a lot more interesting stuff.

    My question is: Is it worth getting it???
    Does it make big difference in helping you win???
    Someone who has it please give me some info about this sowtfare...
    Thanks..Will send points....

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    bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxing Champ View Post
    Does anyone have this software??? It costs $200 a month
    But it breaks down all the info on most books, betting %
    steam moves, reverse line movements, injuries, instant news,
    real time line movements and a lot more interesting stuff.

    My question is: Is it worth getting it???
    Does it make big difference in helping you win???
    Someone who has it please give me some info about this sowtfare...
    Thanks..Will send points....

    Its web based
    Its way over priced
    Betting % mean fukkin shit
    Their percentages are not real accurate
    Its fukkin whore shit and do not waste your money

    Use SBR odds and it is free

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    Thanks JJ...

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    If you really need real time info use Sports Options

    Its a pay service, many more options and very custom

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    I use combined free tools, after giving all of the pay services a "trial run". For myself, I could not justify (read afford) the prices.

    Searching helped me to find line moves that are very close to when the book moves them and public percentages that will the fit the bill.

    Time consuming keeping up with the tasks you mentioned but the price is right.

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    Sports options is way better. Definitely worth the price... sports insights is not.

    I pay 300/month I think on sports options, but I make way more then that from betting steam at slow moving books so its def worth the $$

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    Sports options is way better. Definitely worth the price... sports insights is not.

    I pay 300/month I think on sports options, but I make way more then that from betting steam at slow moving books so its def worth the $$
    I was looking threw this can u tell me why is the price difference from $99 for standard to $300 for the pro version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legions36 View Post
    I was looking threw this can u tell me why is the price difference from $99 for standard to $300 for the pro version.
    The 300 is live odds, the standard is delayed.

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    SI steam moves and smart money plays are ok. They do hit but by the time you get them the value is gone. Plus they send you a ton of plays especially on busy game days and to follow all those plays is just too much time consuming..... unless you have money in alot of books then you can shop around and find the best price. And one other thing. Those really nice records for the smart money and steam plays are lines they got when they played the game. So by the time you got it your record might not be the same because of the line movement. I don't like to be controlled on when i get my plays. I like to play when i am ready.

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    DB is still the only one with a live Cris and Grande feed which is important.

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    it's a scam. Don't buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testudo View Post
    DB is still the only one with a live Cris and Grande feed which is important.
    What's DB???

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    db= don best
    i like sports options the best it was very useful during baseball season and the $$$$$ difference is a 2 minute delay for the 99 one which in sportsbetting can be a very long time

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    Who's don best??? or what's don best?

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    Not worth money

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    Boxingchamp, donbest is very expensive.

    To answer your question, you do not need the $199 version. The only thing you that is different from the $99 version is betting system picks (emails about steam moves, alerts etc). These are rubbish and a complete waste of money. I have issues about how they go about this, which I won't go into here.

    If you understand how to use line movement and use multiple books, then you will be able to make money off the $99 system. Don't think that you are paying $199 for something that will spit out picks for you - you need to figure that out yourself.

    Anyway, SI and So are basically the same - SO has a slightly nicer layout and more sports, but SI has other things going for it that i like. I use SI, but have used both and would use SO again.

    This is what I said in another thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gee View Post
    Used both. Prefer Sportsinsights. Sportsoptions refuse to advise of the books they use for public percentages. They have admitted they are square books, but will not say who they are. This is not ideal and makes me refuse to use them. They only use 3 books too, which is only a small cross section of the market. It makes it so much worse, when you don't even know what books they use, how much action they take and how sharp they are. Could be betrussia.com. Don't like this secrecy for a product they advertise as premium. Sportsinsights books for public percentages are square, but at least they are willing to tell us who they are. Its a wide enough range to be accurate. I also like that you can track the public % with the line moves at the same time. All that being said. SO and SI percentages are often very similar and if you are serious about +EV bets, then you need one of these two at the least. If you don't care about the public, then go with SO. Their interface across all sports for the line movement is much easier to use.
    Both offer free trials, so try both for a week each and see what you like.

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    Thanks.....
    All I'm really looking for is REAL Time Line Movements/REAL LIFE Steam

    Percentages of bets at 5Dimes/Pinni/Bet365.....

    Does SI have percentages on those books??
    SI only has real life odds movement for $199...$99 version is on 10 min delay...Right???

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    Sports insights not worth the cash.
    Number 1 is sports options followed by don best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferndog View Post
    unless you have money in alot of books then you can shop around and find the best price.
    why else would you have sports options? Whats the point if you don't have money at lots of books? The whole point of spending that kind of $$ is for shopping around and betting steam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxing Champ View Post
    Thanks.....
    All I'm really looking for is REAL Time Line Movements/REAL LIFE Steam

    Percentages of bets at 5Dimes/Pinni/Bet365.....

    Does SI have percentages on those books??
    SI only has real life odds movement for $199...$99 version is on 10 min delay...Right???
    5dimes yes but the other 4 are very square books that you never ever hear about...you can get the betting % for free at thespread but they have a 20 min delay and no totals

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    If you do not have a minimum of $5000 at 10 books and have access to books all over the world using a paid line service is pure stupidity

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    SI

    Boxing Champ- our web-based software is worth the valuable information you're getting on the sports betting marketplace, as you'll get live odds, betting percentages, steam moves, reverse-line moves, injury/weather alerts, and many other features. Take the free 14-day trial run and see for yourself.

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    All I'm really looking for is REAL Time Line Movements/REAL LIFE Steam
    Oy vey,
    When you are watching the screen and trying to bet the moves you aren't betting steam you're chasing. If you were playing steam you'd be getting down on the number right before the screen moves (or earlier depending where you are in the food chain) because you move for someone. Guys that chase are trying to ride the coat tails of pros... there's nothing sharp about that. That's why books sometimes get pissed. You're not a sharp bettor, you're a shot taker. And IMO you'll never win this way in the long run because you're not going to get the number the majority of the time, nor do you even know who you're following...

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    Don Best is the leader/pioneer in real time line services
    They have exclusive deals with the top books which means they get the change first
    They have the best software money can buy
    They have the best techs in business
    They have the most experienced managers in the business
    Customer service excellent
    Every book in world buys their service

    Web based software is second rate

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post

    Web based software is second rate

    Isn't SBR odds web based ????
    (the same sbr odds that hasn't worked since the start of NCAA football and they don't even return emails now )

    and I use SO but when SBR odds works on those rare occasions it's not bad for a "web based" free service

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    I have asked numerous times to get sbr to get away from web based stuff

    You cannot beat applications you download

    Minet your big time

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    I suggested that they buy wagerstation-That Canuck nerd would have given the whole set up to them
    they could have integrated it into the new sbr odds as a complete down load package
    for SBR pros only and raised the pro membership to $350 or so....

    but i guess poker was more important

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    Every book in world buys their service
    While your entire post is lolz
    I can assure you that across the pond, hardly anyone uses db
    Bet radar dwarfs db in terms of just about everything, and I wouldn't be shocked if txodds was bigger as well.
    If you're talking US market sure db is the biggest, however, it has more to do with people disliking change rather than a superior product.
    Personally I'm glad sports insights is browser based for those of us that don't run windows.

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    sports insights = scamdicapper

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    Sports Insights is whore shit
    inaccurate data and they steal lines

    They have lawsuits pending against them

    betradar is euro based and seems to be more for websites and euro books than players/bettors

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferndog View Post
    5dimes yes but the other 4 are very square books that you never ever hear about...you can get the betting % for free at thespread but they have a 20 min delay and no totals
    We offer public betting % from 6 online sportsbooks - 5Dimes, Betus, Sportsbook.com, Carib, Sports Interaction, and WagerWeb. We also offer the number of bets placed. Our pay members can see the action at each invididual sportsbook, or the market average between all 6 sportsbooks.

    The betting % stats you see on TheSpread.com are ours. You'll see powered by Sports Insights, plus links back to our website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I have asked numerous times to get sbr to get away from web based stuff

    You cannot beat applications you download

    Minet your big time
    Sports Insights (since 1999) has always been a web based real time odds product so I'm a little bias here. Being web based has some major advantages. It works anywhere. All you need is an internet connection and a web browswer. It works on Macs, Windows, or Linux computers. It works great on any kind of tablet or smart phones. (iphone, ipad, android, blackberry, windows mobile, galaxy, etc) If you're at work just login. If you're at a friend's house just login. If you're at a bar looking for 2nd half odds/betting data login with your smart phone or ipad and see everything in real time.

    We also launced a mobile app that allows pay users to recieve real-time push alerts, steam moves, reverse line moves, plus stuff like final scores and breaking injury reports for games you tell us are important to you.

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    Number of placed bets is highly exaggerated

    No sportsbooks take that many bets on a game


    Many of numbers ate outrageous

    Wager web is a fraud book and they are luck to have 50 bets on a hockey game

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Sports Insights is whore shit
    inaccurate data and they steal lines

    They have lawsuits pending against them

    betradar is euro based and seems to be more for websites and euro books than players/bettors
    JJ, no lawsuit pending against Sports Insights. I have no idea where that came from. We're have an excellent relationship with both Don Best and Sports Options.

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