[SportsInsights]

While your entire post is lolz
I can assure you that across the pond, hardly anyone uses db
Bet radar dwarfs db in terms of just about everything, and I wouldn't be shocked if txodds was bigger as well.
If you're talking US market sure db is the biggest, however, it has more to do with people disliking change rather than a superior product.
Personally I'm glad sports insights is browser based for those of us that don't run windows.

CS, I'm assuming your located in Europe? You make an excellent point. I use to think Don Best was a pretty big company but I quickly discovered they are nothing compared with BetRadar. I guestimate BetRadar is 5-10 times larger in terms of revenue and employees. In my opinion the difference is brought on by the simple fact the US sports betting market is in the dark ages. Europe is a regulated market. They have Futune 500 type companies running and investing in sports betting platforms/technologies. It's really night and day how intergrated a company like BetRadar is with a European sportsbooks.

[SlickRick1382]

Boxingchamp, donbest is very expensive. To answer your question, you do not need the $199 version. The only thing you that is different from the $99 version is betting system picks (emails about steam moves, alerts etc). These are rubbish and a complete waste of money. I have issues about how they go about this, which I won't go into here. If you understand how to use line movement and use multiple books, then you will be able to make money off the $99 system. Don't think that you are paying $199 for something that will spit out picks for you - you need to figure that out yourself. Anyway, SI and So are basically the same - SO has a slightly nicer layout and more sports, but SI has other things going for it that i like. I use SI, but have used both and would use SO again. This is what I said in another thread: Both offer free trials, so try both for a week each and see what you like.

Just curious since I currently use SportsInsights myself and took a look at SO earlier today. You say the layout is better at SO. Are you using the classic or the Live Odds 3.0 for SI? I personally find the SI layout (3.0 version) to be very easy to navigate and very well layed out. Maybe I'm slightly biased since I used them 1st but I personally think it's a better service.

On a side ntoe, I don't know why so many people swear by SO and then put down SI to be whore shit or what have you. They're similar in many aspects so either they're both trash or they're both decent. Can't see how one dwarfs the other.

[jjgold]

Men I will do a review of the Don Best Service on Video

Sports Options and Don Best are 10x more custom that Sports Insights

[jjgold]

BetRadar does not look like a service though for individuals, seems like it is for websites and sportsbooks

[SportsInsights]

Men I will do a review of the Don Best Service on Video

Sports Options and Don Best are 10x more custom that Sports Insights

Nobody knows, especially JJ, the difference in membership levels between our companies.

But we must be doing something right. Our Android App launced at the biggining of football season now has close to 20,000 users. You'll see our banners ads on Covers, ScoresandOdds, and TheSpread.

[SlickRick1382]

Nobody knows, especially JJ, the difference in membership levels between our companies. But we must be doing something right. Our Android App launced at the biggining of football season now has close to 20,000 users. You'll see our banners ads on Covers, ScoresandOdds, and TheSpread.

He's obviously biased towards SO for some strange reason. Can't see how anyone can say SO is 10X better.

[SportsMushroom]

Nobody knows, especially JJ, the difference in membership levels between our companies.

But we must be doing something right. Our Android App launced at the biggining of football season now has close to 20,000 users. You'll see our banners ads on Covers, ScoresandOdds, and TheSpread.

sir, thank you for being on sbr and offering insight into your product, I am very interested in it

I wanted to ask

does SI offer bookmaker, pinnacle, the greek odds/line moves?

why is it that the betting percentages are from recreational books and no betting percentages are offered from books that take pro action like the three already mentioned?

[jjgold]

Son I will know more than you ever know

Sports Insights has fraudulent numbers as far as amount of bets

Books dont take 3000 bets on a fukkin hockey game and 25,000 bets on a nfl game

USA accounts are at an all time low online

I can crush this line service

[SlickRick1382]

sir, thank you for being on sbr and offering insight into your product, I am very interested in it I wanted to ask does SI offer bookmaker, pinnacle, the greek odds/line moves? why is it that the betting percentages are from recreational books and no betting percentages are offered from books that take pro action like the three already mentioned?

The 1st half of your question I can answer for you if you'd like.

They do show line movements for all three books you mentioned. I personally have Pinny and Olympic (The Greek) at the top of my list of books it reflects line movements on.

Can manually post you a list if you really need it. But those three you mentioned are part of the book info offered.

[SlickRick1382]

Son I will know more than you ever know Sports Insights has fraudulent numbers as far as amount of bets Books dont take 3000 bets on a fukkin hockey game and 25,000 bets on a nfl game USA accounts are at an all time low online I can crush this line service

Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that be the total bets across the 6 or so books they have info on? So you mean to say on average they don't take 500 bets on an NHL game?

[C.S.]

Books dont take 3000 bets on a fukkin hockey game and 25,000 bets on a nfl game

Are you kidding? Two or three medium sized books will take 25k bets on a NFL game easy. I also don't know where you get the US accounts are at an all time low, but numbers haven't changed much over the last couple of years, throughout the industry. Sure it's not 2006 but there's plenty of business to go around. You also say DonBest is better for the player. Why? I'll give you line tracker is a cool feature. But if I was a player looking for a service, unless having CRIS was a necessity, I'd go with one of the other companies based on price alone.
SI, I live in CR but have been a betradar user and general fanboy for a while.

[jjgold]

[Emily_Haines]

Its web based
Its way over priced
Betting % mean fukkin shit
Their percentages are not real accurate
Its fukkin whore shit and do not waste your money

Use SBR odds and it is free

yeah real not that much different from SBR

except they have injury information on there you can find free for else were.

save your cash for booze and cheap women

[jjgold]

yeah real not that much different from SBR

except they have injury information on there you can find free for else were.

save your cash for booze and cheap women

[SlickRick1382]

Interesting how so many people swear to make so much money gambling but then think $199 a month is too much to pay for a service.

$1200 a year is a drop in the bucket if you're making money the way many people "claim" to be making. If you're not or you don't bet a lot on games then it's understandable.

[jjgold]

$1200 a year is nothing if you bet daily whatever line service you choose
It makes things easy

All I will say is betting percentages, public plays and steam and system plays mean nothing
'

No one would work if it was that easy

[SlickRick1382]

$1200 a year is nothing if you bet daily whatever line service you choose It makes things easy All I will say is betting percentages, public plays and steam and system plays mean nothing ' No one would work if it was that easy

Not arguing that later part of your comment. Their best bets feature is barely positive units. Steam moves are tricky because of a lot of them come from the same book, buying both sides of a game so you need to pay attention, etc. If it was that easy we'd all be rich and living like fat ***** at home.

I'm not even advocating using anyone's software. All the same to me if you do or don't. If you find value in it then go for it. if you don't then don't' use it. Just interesting people bitching $199 a month or $99 a month is too much for a line service yet claim to do well gambling.

[jjgold]

SBR Odds does suit many players here

I always liked paid odds services and find them so easy to navigate, rarely break down and very fast

[illfuuptn]

JJ how about you address the fact that sbrodds changes its opening lines before the games and changes the closing lines after the games start? What's funny is this eerily seems to happen more often in rlm situations and to create fake rlm situations. Hmmmmmm, a sportsbooks sponsored site not giving out accurate information to bettors...

[jjgold]

JJ how about you address the fact that sbrodds changes its opening lines before the games and changes the closing lines after the games start? What's funny is this eerily seems to happen more often in rlm situations and to create fake rlm situations. Hmmmmmm, a sportsbooks sponsored site not giving out accurate information to bettors...

This needs to be checked quickly

[raiders72001]

I like the line services for HT betting and injury reports. HT betting is underused by most bettors. Books don't have much time to adjust to give a solid HT line. SO and DB are the only ways to go if you are going to pay. Of course for free SBR. I've used them all throughout the years, including G&J years back and have settled for SO. You can get free trials to test the waters.

[jjgold]

I am a don best guy
Tried everyone on universe
The halftime features are great with don best and sports options

[hels]

Interesting how so many people swear to make so much money gambling but then think $199 a month is too much to pay for a service.

$1200 a year is a drop in the bucket if you're making money the way many people "claim" to be making. If you're not or you don't bet a lot on games then it's understandable.

Math isn't something you're very good at, is it?

[SportsMushroom]

The 1st half of your question I can answer for you if you'd like.

They do show line movements for all three books you mentioned. I personally have Pinny and Olympic (The Greek) at the top of my list of books it reflects line movements on.

Can manually post you a list if you really need it. But those three you mentioned are part of the book info offered.

thank you kind sir

no need to post a list, those are the books I,m mostly interested in

[SlickRick1382]

Math isn't something you're very good at, is it?

I was doing the math based on the basic service that most people actually subscribe for which is $99 a month. The premium service is the one that's $199 which very few, form this board, actually subscribe too because they don't feel the added premium features are worth it. So I was simply posting about one but apparently thinking about the latter since it's the one I subscribe to.

Simple mistake but obviously it's much easier to troll someone than to simply point out the error. I wouldn't expect anything less from some people.

[SlickRick1382]

thank you kind sir no need to post a list, those are the books I,m mostly interested in

Any time bud. If you have any more questions feel free.

[SportsInsights]

sir, thank you for being on sbr and offering insight into your product, I am very interested in it

I wanted to ask

does SI offer bookmaker, pinnacle, the greek odds/line moves?

why is it that the betting percentages are from recreational books and no betting percentages are offered from books that take pro action like the three already mentioned?

Yes, we offer real time odds from Bookmaker, Pinn, Greek, Olympic, 5Dimes, Heritage, Easy Street, ABC/Jazz and many more. We offer betting % data from 6 sportsbooks of which in my opinion 5Dimes and Carib take "pro" action.

[jjgold]

5 Dimes takes kids action

Its not a book for any type of guy betting $500 or more per game

Carib is ok with decent bets

[hungry tiger]

sport book insider at sports insights is $250 monthly right now....they used to have different options in the past...their basic service went up from $49 to $150 last year....
I just checked their website...basic service is not available...you have to pay $250 monthly for line moves etc...

[jjgold]

its a ripoff..pure garbage

suckers will buy

plenty of for ones that are slight delay and just as good