[5mike5]

It's dead for Americans. I can't use my bank account or CC's to fund any accounts and if I ever manage to fund them again I have no idea how to get paid. With the FBI monitoring all illegal gambling and banking activities I'm not going to risk going to jail for a few hundred bucks. I fly to Vegas now and make big bets on games I like and also make sure the money stays in the US and doesn't go towards 3rd world countries which hate America.

get p2p withdrawls and bank wires every week like i have been doing for the last 16 years..the FBI doesnt give a shit about the gamblers.(thats actually parinoid and halarious).lol..if they did me and about a million other americans would be in jail right now, but since its never happened that says it all...its VERY worth it cause i get paid every week and have NEVER had a single problem and i have deposited and withdrawn 1,000s of times in my career...U.S. players have NOTHING to fear...just make sure u dont leave a ton of money offshore and withdrawl the winnings u earn and ur fine....everybody i know has been

[JohnnyC]

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Why arent you rated on sbr?

[HotCapper25]

Right so for the average American gambler he should move to vegas over playing online at 5dimes or Bookmaker.

no, the average gambler loses. i think this thread is probably more dedicated to people trying to make money as opposed to the recreational guy who wants to play in his underwear and socks.

[5mike5]

no, the average gambler loses. i think this thread is probably more dedicated to people trying to make money as opposed to the recreational guy who wants to play in his underwear and socks.

funny as hell

[laclippers504]

Its a headache but I believe its still worth it

[AbleFollow]

Why arent you rated on sbr?

Really, I have no idea "why?". I know that IBC and SBO are the most powerfull sportsbooks in Asia, which is one of the leaders in the world gambling industry.

[scott235]

There you go

Great post. Getting a bit exhausted with the "nothing to see here, business as usual for the US and SBR" crowd. It's amazing what people will believe if they believe what they want to. Yeah, just keep taking those chex from central america. Patriot act my ass. Not that I think that offshore is dead yet, but a lot of posters on this forum are interested in only one thing, and that is maximizing deposits for sportsbooks, and F everyone and anything else.

[scott235]

Completely disagree with many of sbr's views on locals- they are by and large just as honest or dishonest as any offshore. If you can handicapp, get a local, or if you stick with online stick with P2P and deposit smaller amount and grow a stash - if you bonus whore/arb, You have enormous balls and I respect that (sans the shills). BOL

[uva3021]

if you have a 4 year degree, go teach in korea and with it comes access to betfair, bet365, and pinnacle, the teaching is just an excuse to get your veesa and deposit into moneybookers

i'll probably be back there in march 2012

[aalina]

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[5mike5]

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never understand how stupid some1 has to be to waste money in ANY crooked online casino( they all are crooked BTW)...embarassing

[increasedodds]

Two very easy ways - bank wires with banks that do wires online and credit. I feel bad for guys betting small dollars cause ** and other methods must be a pain in the ass.

[5mike5]

very easy and no hassle at all...plus no bank involvment...i like cash in hand in 24 hrs

[xfrozenx]

betonline, bookmaker, and justbet 3 good sportsbooks for USA people, like myself. I have enjoyed each.

[zsr]

if you have a 4 year degree, go teach in korea and with it comes access to betfair, bet365, and pinnacle, the teaching is just an excuse to get your veesa and deposit into moneybookers i'll probably be back there in march 2012

Wouldnt you rather just move to vegas though? How much does a teaching job over there pay? Cost of living? Pinnacle would be great to have as an out, thats one book i would have no fears depositing in

[TheCentaur]

I'll tell you after this weekend ...

[TheCentaur]

if you have a 4 year degree, go teach in korea and with it comes access to betfair, bet365, and pinnacle, the teaching is just an excuse to get your veesa and deposit into moneybookers

i'll probably be back there in march 2012

Ok class, today we're going to learn what the words "scalping" and "middling" mean. First let's take a 10 minute break, it's 8:15 on Monday night in the US.

[uva3021]

Ok class, today we're going to learn what the words "scalping" and "middling" mean. First let's take a 10 minute break, it's 8:15 on Monday night in the US.

during the national championship i taught football, i found a stream, hooked it up to a tv and let them watch it and ask questions while i made live bets at betfair

[pimike]

betonline, bookmaker, and justbet 3 good sportsbooks for USA people, like myself. I have enjoyed each.

Betonline can't pay. Others are struggling to find ways to pay USA players. Times have changed.

[pimike]

betonline, bookmaker, and justbet 3 good sportsbooks for USA people, like myself. I have enjoyed each.

Betonline can't pay. Others are struggling to find ways to pay USA players. Times have changed.

Timely matter that is.

[jjgold]

Bigger bettors have an easier time betting
They have more resources also

[TheCentaur]

Betonline can't pay. Others are struggling to find ways to pay USA players. Times have changed.

Just got a check from them 2 weeks ago.

[TheCentaur]

during the national championship i taught football, i found a stream, hooked it up to a tv and let them watch it and ask questions while i made live bets at betfair

[gregm]

Betonline can't pay. Others are struggling to find ways to pay USA players. Times have changed.

Can you give any examples? Stuff like this shouldnt be posted unless people can back it up with proof.

I have never had a problem with betonline and I am not seeing any open disputes under their B+ rating from sbr. If there are questions about their solvency I would like to see them presented, just posting something like this without any proof shouldnt be on here.

[pavyracer]

Can you give any examples? Stuff like this shouldnt be posted unless people can back it up with proof.

I have never had a problem with betonline and I am not seeing any open disputes under their B+ rating from sbr. If there are questions about their solvency I would like to see them presented, just posting something like this without any proof shouldnt be on here.

gregm,

pimike is not your average recreational gambler. he bets in the thousands on each game he likes. so yeah betonline can pay the recreational gambler like yourself a few hundred bucks a month but someone like pimike they can't pay in 5 digits or more.

[gregm]

gregm,

pimike is not your average recreational gambler. he bets in the thousands on each game he likes. so yeah betonline can pay the recreational gambler like yourself a few hundred bucks a month but someone like pimike they can't pay in 5 digits or more.

I am a recreational gambler but I bet alot more than a couple of hundred dollars a month and I havent had a problem with them yet. I am just wondering where the disputes are.

I may be missing some threads, but I havent heard about them not paying on the boards or see the non payment disputes on the sbr review. I would just like to know if they are having problems or not.

[masr]

sportsbooks look for any reason not to pay...use a local...always reliable

[5mike5]

13 years offshore books and ive never not been paid....but ive been with vip b4 and now 5dimes...thats why ive never been stiffed...

[pavyracer]

I am a recreational gambler but I bet alot more than a couple of hundred dollars a month and I havent had a problem with them yet. I am just wondering where the disputes are.

I may be missing some threads, but I havent heard about them not paying on the boards or see the non payment disputes on the sbr review. I would just like to know if they are having problems or not.

I saw pimike in Vegas betting 50 benjamins on a baseball game. He is not your average bettor. He is talking about thousands of dollars in payouts. Like 20 or 50 thousand dollars payouts.

[Mastertvtech]

Locals that use a pay per head online system are the best.....Bookie in a box gives you the best of both worlds: Online wagering like any other book but pay/collect from the local guy.

I have to assume that PPH is getting bigger because of all this cr$p.

[LordVodka]

13 years offshore books and ive never not been paid....but ive been with vip b4 and now 5dimes...thats why ive never been stiffed...

Do you make a living off gambling? Sounds like if if you're getting withdrawals every week.